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If Bannigan and O'Ware don't want to play for PTFC under Gary Caldwell then what's the point in them staying on beyond the transfer window?
O'Ware has been at PTFC for over a season, has been injured otherwise contributed nothing to the club on the pitch so why will he be a big loss?
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11 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said:
Is your number one loyalty to Partick Thistle rather than Gary Caldwell?
If yes, Gary wants you out and will (typically) replace you with someone whose priority is themselves.
He is ripping apart the soul of this club.
Dry your eyes FFS. You are the biggest bleeding heart on here and P&B. I'm convinced Gary Caldwell wants PTFC to win football matches and I wouldn't care what players he does it with, as long as he does it. Too many players like Bannigan and Erskine picking up easy wages as fan favourites. The only "soul" this club should have is trying to win.
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40 minutes ago, jlsarmy said:
Think it’s time for Caldwell to come out and tell us why O’ware isn’t playing, if it’s injury related then that’s ok but O’ware before his injury was probably one of the best defenders in the league and also the highest goal scoring defender in Europe .
After rupturing his ACL, and some Greenock fans saying he was quite good, Tam O'Ware has mythically transformed into Thistle's greatest centre back of all time. He hasn't particularly impressed me at any point.
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2 minutes ago, sandy said:
Bottom of the table tonight.
Let that sink in.
How can that be acceptable to us?
It isn't. Caldwell will he gone if it stays like that much longer, which I'm sure he'll be aware of. Might depend on the takeover going ahead though.
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11 minutes ago, sandbank boy said:
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i get an inkling that Banzo doesn’t like playing for our current boss.
He should just leave then. He's been terrible so far this season and wasn't much better last.
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16 hours ago, alx said:
Caldwell sacks Dools somehow taking the 'hard decision' (deluded arrogant f***wit more like).
So we start very badly next season, does Jacqui Lowe take the 'hard decision' and sack Caldwell? No chance.
I can feel in my waater a Dick Campbellesque season approaching. He'll need to go by Christmas unless he gets one of the veteran striker targets to save his skin.
It's almost as though you (and some others) want this to happen...
I personally would have given Kris Doolan a contract for another season as I think he would continue to score a good number of goals if playing in a team which wasn't struggling to the same extent as that assembled by Archibald for the start of last season. I'm not a football manager, however.
I think Caldwell is right to an extent in his interview in that I'm not sure what the "nice way" to release a player is. Brings to mind the scene in the film Moneyball, where the management are deciding to release players and basically agree to be completely blunt with them. Doolan would obviously have been upset/angry in his interviews - we all would be after losing a job.
I'm a massive fan of Kris Doolan and always will be, but I'm a Thistle fan first and foremost.
Hopefully we can all move on a bit and get behind the team for the new season.
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32 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said:
I was commenting on how *Caldwell* treats people. When a player has played for a decade for your club, and there’s a good chance he won’t be here next season, and you’re 3-0 up with an unused sub on the last day of the season, you give them a cameo to say goodbye to their fans.
You brought up the irrelevant question of the testimonial, something Caldwell had no involvement in setting up, as a way of suggesting he had therefore treated Doolan right.
He hasn’t.
I don't agree with this. A game of that significance, with the very real threat of relegation, is not the correct context for a "cameo". Completely different, for example, to when Lambie brought on Chic Charnley for last 5 mins of his last game in charge - a meaningless end of season game.
The fans wouldn't have been aware that it was a farewell cameo anyway. His testimonial game is the correct time to say farewell on the pitch.
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In my opinion, Gary Caldwell has done a completely satisfactory job.
The squad Alan Archibald assembled last Summer was one of the worst Thistle sides I have ever seen, thus proving his major weakness in player recruitment. Bell, Jeffries, Scobbie, Ntambwe, Storer, Quitongo, Melbourne... Mutumbo, allegedly signed via a recommendation text message from an out of work manager. McGinty and Keown the worst centre back duo since...Keown and Devine. A squad that looked like it had been put together using Champ Man, Instagram and Transfermarkt.
I think that side would have been relegated automatically, given how Alloa and Falkirk picked up over the course of the season.
After 20 minutes of the new season, 2-0 down at Ayr, we were just trying to halt a downward spiral.
Gary Caldwell has done that with good signings and developing a team spirit. Well done to him and he fully merits being Thistle manager next season.
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23 minutes ago, sandy said:
GC has no cognisance of how Erskine & Doolan felt about the Club; and even if he did, it wasn’t an important factor in his decision-making.
If there was ‘hysteria’, it was because there was very little communication coming out of Firhill as to GC’s rationale and his plans for rebuilding. All we saw was a long-serving player who loved the Club, gradually being frozen out (again, a perception).
One day Doolan & Erskine will manage us, that I’m sure of.
"Feeling strongly" about the club doesn't neccessarily equate to winning football matches, otherwise we'd have a starting line up of the most die-hard fans out the stand.
Doolan and Erskine could manage us in the future if they are the best candidates for the managerial job. Not simply because they would be popular former players. Insisting on hiring "your own" should be left to the "Celtic-minded" or "Big Rangers Men" of the Old Firm. Alan Archibald was treated far too leniently because he was a popular former player. Which didn't make him a good manager.
Erskine and Doolan may have no interest in being football managers.
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59 minutes ago, sandy said:
Interesting analysis. I think Archie & Shaggy we’re worn out from the effort of keeping us in the top flight. Nobody within the Club seemed to recognise that or be able to help. So the sacking felt painful. Still does.
The fact that I haven’t warmed to GC has nothing to do with what happened to Archie. I just don’t think he has understood Thistle (witness release of Erskine) nor has the tactical nous or decision-making ability (witness 18 month contract to Harkins) to put in a decent promotion challenge.
We need an overhaul this summer, starting with a new manager and maybe some Board changes too.
What would "understanding Thistle" have been?
We should be an organisation focussed primarily on winning football matches. I didn't necessarily agree with releasing Erskine either, but if it was part of a squad overhaul which results in us staying in the division, it will have been justified. The level of hysteria surrounding the whole event was ridiculous.
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I think Gary Caldwell did well in the January transfer window but there seem to be other problems going on. Perhaps he has annoyed a number of players and he is certainly persistent in certain approaches to playing games of football, even if something more straightforward might work better. I know little about football tactics, however.
There are other problems which long predate Gary Caldwell, and I'm certain we'd have been in a relegation battle with Alan Archibald and very possibly with any other available candidate too.
I struggle to think of any convincing, comfortable league game performances over the past 3-4 years. The finger always hovers over the self-destruct button and there is a weak mentality which has been pervasive for a long time. This will only really change with a 10 game or more good run of form from a comfortable league position (Alan Archibald certainly wasn't acheiving that).
I'm pretty convinced Gary Caldwell wants to be a successful football manager but he has a difficult task on his hands - as I suspect his Chesterfield job was. He'll be nowhere near another job in England unless he were to get Thistle promoted and playing convincingly in the top flight. He could arguably be sacked from the Thistle job now, but are there any real good options here at all for us?
He has 7 (+\- 2) games remaining to realistically save his career in management. We can't afford any bad performances in these games, and I think we do have a groupd of players who are capable of getting out of this situation. But they will need to be interested, motivated and the starting line ups will have to right.
I'm sure we are all desperate for us to succeed.
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21 hours ago, partickthedog said:
I suppose I would generally be classed as a Clappyhapper, trying to find positives, and while a committed supporter, usually viewing my Thistle football through a lighthearted lens.
This next comment should not be construed as saying that Archie should still be manager. His time, though much appreciated, had certainly come and gone.
However, I thought that my daughter put it well recently in saying that when Archie struggled, you felt like you were suffering with a friend, but with Caldwell, you feel as though you are suffering with a stranger.
Perhaps a matter of taste. Personally I tended to find Alan Archibald uninspiring and insipid - and of course his teams ended up turning in lots of insipid performances.
I'm certainly aware he was a good player for us and has been connected with Thistle over many years, but I never really felt that a burning passion for PTFC came across. I didn't really relate to him much as a manager.
If Caldwell has ego, arrogance, I don't think it would have bothered me at al if he had got good results so far. In fact, perversely I quite like his wilfully thrawn comments such as blaming refs and being "outstanding" and "controlling" games even when we've had a terrible result - which doesn't make sense but is almost endearingly bizarre.
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10 minutes ago, jlsarmy said:
what PTFC are all about .
What do you mean by this?
I'd hope PTFC would be all about winning football matches. For me, Gary Caldwell has a few more games left to aee if he can do that.
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Why not just sell him if we are getting £400K? Contracted till May 2021 apparently but his value isn't going to go up if we are in League 1. He hasn't made much of an impact this year and won't get much game time in a relegation battle. Could also be useful for a League 1 campaign but there is certainly an argument for cashing in on him now...
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1 minute ago, Auld Jag said:
I would rather Erskine had stayed and Caldwell had left. At least Erskine has proved his worth to Thistle. Caldwell is only taking us in one direction.
That's not answering the question
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Here's a question - if Erskine had stayed on the bench and not played another minute this season, would everyone have preferred that to him leaving and freeing up a wage for another signing? For him to stay just for the joy of seeing his name in the squad?
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There are several sides to every story, and very little is actually known about the situation. I wouldn't expect to get away with challenging my boss at work in front of others (even if others thought I was being reasonable). I'd expect to get away with it even less if I told people outside of work and it ended up causing lots of discord among customers on social media.
Mass hysteria about this now is not going to help us. Caldwell will deserve the sack if results remain as bad - not for releasing a particular player. The entire club needs to focus on avoiding relegation - including via a playoff, if this is required.
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37 minutes ago, allyo said:
He was so Thistle. Committed to the cause but also with a style that suited us perfectly.
I would not have released Erskine, but this is cuddly toy pish. The only "style" of player I want at Thistle is that which wins football matches, in any possible way.
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19 minutes ago, Gress said:
Chris has gone because last Monday, during the burst up after training, Caldwell told Chris he had enough starts (2) to prove his worth, and wasn't in his plans so find another club. The week before he came on against Morton in the 2nd half and the game changed completely. After the game, Caldwell told him his performance was immense. Then the Saturday against Dundee Utd, he couldn't even get off the bench. To be told " you were immense" then be told a week later " you've had your chance and are not in my plans" was enough said. After the week of posts by the club trying to cover up what happened, you were all given a chance to say goodbye to Chris in his final 10mins last Saturday. Another ploy to keep fans happy after the crap they were told last week
The Greenock Morton game clearly didn't change that effectively - we lost.
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Has it ever actually been mentioned at any stage that Gary Caldwell has used Powerpoint? I'm not sure where the fixation with this comes from.
I think Caldwell is quoted as making "a presentation" at his interview. I can't begrudge him preparing well for his job interview and selling himself.
It's the job of a selection panel to investigate all candidates and appoint the best one.
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I don't think Coulibaly was fit, is fit or ever will be fit. Another wasted wage by - you've guessed it - Alan Archibald.
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15 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said:
The usual clutching at straws from this fraud.
Honestly, let's admit it's not worked, fire him and move on.
We are falling faster than Marilyn Monroe's undies.
Plenty of managers do this all the time. Arsene Wenger did it consistently through his career.
Would it have been better management to publicly criticise the player he has just signed for getting sent off?
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3 hours ago, JAG1970 said:
As I and others have said, if Caldwell had told the board at his interview the team was sh*te and he would only be able to win one game until the window, they would have told him where to go. So let's not have anyone pretend that Caldwell has been anything other than a failure so far. Unable to get the best out of a mediocre squad, certainly a squad that should not be at the bottom of the league. To hear some people say that this squad was always destined to be relegated is just nonsense. Fine if his additions get us out of relegation trouble but finishing 7th or lower has to been seen as failure and must result in him (and Low) moving on at the end of the season.
He always comes across as incredibly arrogant/know it all, but right now most of his audience (Thistle fans and the media) view him as a twat. It's up to him to get results in the next 3 games, all at home, if he can't do that then his fate is sealed. Just the timing that would be up for debate. If we finish 7th or lower and he was still the manager, I for one would not purchase a ST next season, a season which will be my 50th going to Firhill. I've seen plenty of dud managers in that time and right now he looks to be in that hall of infamy. I'll be delighted if he proves me, and many others, wrong.
Other views are available.
This squad I think was always going to struggle...hence why they also struggled under the beloved Alan Archibald.
McGinty and Keown was the worst centre back pairing since...Devine and Keown.
Archibald signed one decent player in Craig Slater. Storer, Mutumbo, Ntambwe, Melbourne, McGinty, all duds. There simplt wasn't a decent team there.
Caldwell has failed so far but huge amounts of blame for this season still belong to Alan Archibald.
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2 hours ago, KemoAvdiu said:
has clearly decided that a talented, committed, popular player (who has never once been accused in the past of attitude problems) doesn’t have a future here.
How does anybody actually know this is true?
Ridiculous levels of hysteria from the Thistle support regarding all of this
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It's a great song and nobody is really stupid enough to think it's anything but anti-Old Firm and Sectarianism.
Of course, tens of thousands of people will belt out anti-Catholic/pro-IRA songs at Ibrox/Parkhead every week but the Police are clearly never going to bother taking that problem on.
It would be far easier for them to try to make an example of a club with fewer supporters to be seen to be doing something.
Unless prominent figures emerge in the media who are prepared to call out the Old Firm as the focus for sectarian hatred in Scotland then I would continue to sing our song.