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I may be picking you up wrong but I'm not too sure that Devine can be seen as a replacement for Miller. That would suggest that he's not an anticipated first choice centreback. As I read it the signing of Syme (who can cover at right back) with his first team experience means we only require three centrebacks instead of four (3 squad and an U20).
I'd suggest the remaining centreback vacancy will be filled by a natural left sided player. Much as I admire Lindsay I feel it would be folly not to have a natural left sided centreback to compete for that position. Ideally someone who could also play left back if required tho' that may be wishful thinking.
I also reckon a centreback pairing of Devine/Lindsay is a step up from either Frans/Lindsay or Lindsay/Seaborne (where Liam was played out of position). The fact we know Big Liam can put in creditable performances at right centreback would suggest to me that we'll sign a natural left sided centreback to complete our defensive quota. That in turn indicates that Devine is likely to have been signed as an anticipated first choice centre.
Yeah i'm, with ya... Devine certainly a centre back. But I think he started games at both right and left back for caley last year. Dunno how he got on, and I'm speculating on him as a "Utility player". And Gary wasn't really that either, but he did competently fill a gap when required to.
Not a direct replacement for Gary, but possibly a signing who gives us options when the suspensions/injuries kick in.
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With Lawless, Erskine, Edwards, Amoo all in and around the starting XI and two attacking full backs I'd think that highly unlikely. Later on in certain games 2 up is probable (as it was last season).
I hear you, and I'm just musing....
But since we came up we've really only had 2 prominent centre forwards. Doolan & Pogba/Taylor/Baird.
I'm maybe getting ahead of myself but this guy seems a class apart from German/Mukendi/Eccleston.
He has game time and respectable scoring record challenging for a place in a competitive team.... a team that I think found success playing 2 up front?
Like I say... probly getting over excited and playing to much "football manager" as a wean has me over-analysing the formation options... but I think it could be a significant signing...
Do we need 2 defensive midfielders? ....
I think we over crowded the midfield last year at times. Helped defensively, but maybe stifled us going forwards sometimes, and I think Welsh and Fraser were at times a bit lost in the roles they were being asked to fill.
Pogba never really shone up front alone last year, but I think he did create some space for Dools when they were on together.....
.... Forgive me ... The Euros just ain't the hit i need.... It's like Nicotine gum.... a pint of Kaliber .... diet Irn bru that ain't even been in the fridge....Mon eh Jags..... Ah F**KIN NEED IT!!!!!!
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Devine is a bit of a meh signing. Seems we are on the cheap again.
Ah c'mon mate....
Devine seems to me to be potentially a similar type of utility defender to Gary Miller, has his preferred position but could do a pro job elsewhere if required. Predominantly a central defender but started games across the back 4 at caley last year. We can't carry a big squad and need that kinda player. Miller going left quit a big hole in the squad.
Young but with decent experience. Think he played in the cup finals with caley? and he was a regular starter in a team who finished above us.....
The guy has gotta prove himself for sure, but looks like "decent bit of business" rather than "meh" to me.
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4 years younger than Lyle Taylor and seems to have been pretty decent competition for the ex-jag....
http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?season_id=145&team_id=4194&teamTabs=stats&season_id=145
Could be getting him at just the right time...
2 up front this year.....?
Mon ADE! ..... Mon eh Jags!!!!
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I see Bob Geldof was flicking the "V" and shouting "fraud" at Farage and some fishermen on the Thames.
How's the EU's Common Agricultural Policy working out for Africa, Bob?
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I dunno mate... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36450646 ...45secs in, Skrtel on Williams..... seems the FIFA scandal has maybe led to the Specsavers account being cancelled for goal-line officials.
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For the avoidance of doubt, the EU is a supranational institution not a predominantly intergovernmental one.
All EU member states submit to the primacy of EU Law. None are independent of this. To say any EU member state is "independent" is astonishingly misleading and an affront to any understanding of national sovereignty.
Nation states are said to be represented in the Council of the European Union and the European Council ( I say again "The Council of Europe" is a separate entity from the EU... confused? I suspect you are ment to be!
) however, these are only 2 of the 7 institutions of the EU. ( +5 Commision, Parliament, Central Bank, Court of Justice, Auditors).
Our representatives in these 2 institutions exceed the consent we give them to represent us and to protect our national sovereignty in appointing, or consenting to, people taking office and granting them authority over us that is not to solely accountable to our nation state democracy.
The oath Commissioners make upon taking office :
"I solemnly undertake:
- to respect the Treaties and the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union in the fulfilment of all my duties;
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to be completely independent in carrying out my responsibilities, in the general interest of the Union;
- in the performance of my tasks, neither to seek nor to take instructions from any Government or from any other institution, body, office or entity;
- to refrain from any action incompatible with my duties or the performance of my tasks.
I formally note the undertaking of each Member State to respect this principle and not to seek to influence Members of the Commission in the performance of their tasks.
I further undertake to respect, both during and after my term of office, the obligation arising therefrom, and in particular the duty to behave with integrity and discretion as regards the acceptance, after I have ceased to hold office, of certain appointments or benefits."
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-14-2511_en.htm
The commissioners, the executive body of the EU, 28 people with the sole legislative initiative within it, do not represent their respective nation states their electorates or their best interests.
They do this with assistance and influence from 23,000 unelected civil servants and arguably the biggest, most organised, and most encouraged corporate lobbying system in the world.
- to respect the Treaties and the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union in the fulfilment of all my duties;
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Aren't all elections decided by the votes of the swithering?
I make no contention with your suggestion, however....
This is not an election like all others. It is a referendum. This is an important point not a purely pedantic one.
While "election" is not totally unsuitable as a description, it is obtuse and has been demonstrably used to effect opinion during the campaign.
It is a single issue we are being polled on. Not persons to represent us.
It is worth noting too the distinction that this is not a "plebiscite". The semantic connotation is that we are being gauged for opinion rather than being granted authoritative command.
What happened in Ireland in 2008/09, the Netherlands and France in 2005 in relation to fundamental EU matters make this too, not mere pedantry, but important issues to note.
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The club owe the Weirs now.
They have given an extraordinary amount already that has facilitated fantastic opportunities for the business and sporting excellence.
They set up and continue funding Thistle Weir, which has yet to make a return which perpetuates the scheme. They have helped clear the club's bank debt, lifting a huge burden off the business.
The Weirs have very wisely avoided putting money straight into the team. In Archie we trust, but football is a gamble. We all want a first class first team. But even with buckets of cash that can take time and be humped by a couple of Goodwin tackles or Collum bookings.
The club, and the fans, must now take advantage of that clean slate and show the Weirs, and the world, it is worth it and we can produce. Extra investment would be helpful but if we can't progress on and off the the pitch. from here, a debt free top flight club with over a £1million granted to youth development, something must be rotten at the core. I'm pretty confident the core is ripe for the challenge.
It's disappointing losing first team regulars like Frans, Seabo, Miller, but the fact we are maintaining a prudent budget is encouraging.
We're debt free, but income to pay wages from crowds, TV and sponsors ain't radically changed yet. Archie and Maxi know the deal, and so far have been expert in making it work for the club.
I'd like to know if the club's relationship with Firhill Developments Ltd remains that they still only own about 50% of 50% of the stadium (Colin Weir stand and the Bing), if the Weirs are fully aware of it, and have considered it's pros and cons.
Like it or loathe it the "propco" plan was a practical one to generate income, by sale or continuous by renting of redeveloped areas of the stadium. It was a scheme which sought and found investment.
If the Weirs are able to invest further in the club it might be wise to consider increasing the club's share in that potential return before lining the pockets of fragile footballers or allowing any future profit from development of the stadium to slip out of the hands of the club.
We may be debt free, but in no position to loose out on potential future income.
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McParland : What's the matter wi' him, I just said "hello" ?
Ref : I think Mr Puskas, has been overcome by the occasion and fainted.
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Someone made an apparently good point on the radio yesterday, as does Yellow and Redneck here. "why do we make it so difficult for ourselves?".
Perhaps I am mistaken, but do friendly matches effect our co-efficient for competitive competition, is it really helpful to "test ourselves" in such fixtures against the likes of Italy and France?
Radio guy made the point that other countries possibly use that to their advantage, playing friendly fixtures against teams of or below their perceived level, using them more as an extension of limited training/coaching sessions, enabling experimentation and team building, growing confidence and increasing chances of being in a better pot come the draws for the big competitions.
A Scotland manager should be knowledgeable enough to have a fair idea of the standard of his individual players to have good idea of how well equipped they are as a team to compete with the big boys and how best to set up that team to give them a chance in competition. I would suggest it's a very different job to club management. The coaching is surely more about organisation of the talent rather than developing it. Of course he should be able to spot potential and test it out, but building a confident team, working as a unit and able to impose themselves in matches rather than be dictated to has got to be easier developed when not getting pumped by the best.
"Glamour" friendlies seem pretty needless, possibly counter productive and an attempt to skew the fact we ain't competing with the big boys and haven't been for decades.
People want to see Scotland win. We want to see them compete too and we can handle a cuffing off Brazil once in a while. That opportunity is possibly more in danger with the current policy of taking on more than we can handle. We get a pop at one of the European big boys in every qualification campaign and could afford defeats if we were capable against the rest. Right now the fixture policy of the management seems masochistic.
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What I did find surprising is that Hampden was named after an Englishman!
yeah.... but my great great granda's dug nicked the original f.a cup and buried it, so the Scottish trophy is the older. And legend has it a Scottish workie left a jobby under the centre spot at wembly before they laid the new turf..... so..... 2-1 us!
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Is it variable depending on who's got the pi concession?
Definitely. But Mcghee's are palatable. Crowds may be low, but I doubt 100 will suffice the need.
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OK, what is your vision for the UK, and more importantly for Scotland after a leave vote?
Representative democracy. The right to self determination for any constituent part of the UK remains.
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I read the investment deal lifting the club out of debt included investment from Billy Allan and the Weirs. Raising Allan's share holding to 3% and the Weirs stake got them just shy of 30%, of which they keep 10% (5% to Christine 5 to Colin) and have gifted 19+% to the new trust.
Is this accurate and has there been any further explanation about where that leaves the Jags Trust who presumably still own 1,000,000(?) shares regardless of membership size? What's their % stake in the club now?
Was the new trust a condition set down by the bank or the Weirs or the club or .... ?
And ... What's the deal with "Firhill developments LTD" ... is that all done and dusted? .... Was Billy Allan an investor in it?
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You've got to be the most irritating contributor to this forum these days. Why do you take 7 paragraphs to make a point that could be made in one sentence? You seem to think that if you post more often than anyone else it makes you correct all the time, but it doesn't work that way.
I am in no way shape or form a supporter of the SNP. But I don't see how the Weirs political allegiance has anything to do with their support of PTFC. For you to use their generosity as a political points scoring exercise is crass in the extreme. I sure hope they don't read this forum.
Talk about knocking a gift horse in the mouth.
If everything is so easily explained, why does it take you 3 paragraphs to call me a "pr*ck"?
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Did I, aye?
Colin and his wife are ordinary people who won a life changing amount of money. It stands to reason that they will have people to represent their interests. And by that I mean the money they have gifted to various organisations rather than their profile.
I don't think for one second that they're on an ego trip. But I do think the board would have asked their rep whether she thought it an appropriate gesture.
No conflict. No conspiracy. Just two folk who have generously backed the club. They're hardly Mileson or Melville types.
I have not suggested the Weirs are on an "ego trip" . I provided a quote from them, and offered opinion suggesting quite the opposite.
My criticism is of the club offering by way of thanks, a gesture which inherently and demonstrably puts the Weirs in the public eye. My criticism has not been of the Weirs', (whom I described as "good people") acceptance of it which I suggest could possibly be a little awkward not to do.
The conflict of interest is that while Partick Thistle quite reasonably might want to be seen as a grateful club, the Weirs have said very reasonably stated intent that, "We are not celebrities, nor politicians, nor public figures.".
There is a conflict for anybody representing on one side public promotion and on the other discretion.
I am not suggesting any sort of conspiracy. Nor am I suggesting any evil intent or unlawful intention or practice.
Possible oversight... yes. Poor judgement... that is of course a matter of opinion.
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[media/]Best leader Labour never had?
Even a committed republican socialist is allowed to hold a personal opinion. Referenda offer the opportunity to vote freely, without the restraints of party loyalty.
This in not about "leaving Europe" or isolationism. This is about democracy and which practice of it we live under.
Leaving the EU, for example, does not mean leaving all pan European institutions. The European Court of Human Rights is not a European Union institution. It was set up by the Council of Europe ( 47 members compared to the EU's 28 ).
While it is true the EU has influence on it and through the The European Court of Justice there is an important "legal" tie and the current governing party in the UK supports a return to our own "Bill of Rights" etc... The relationship is demonstrably flexible.
The broader argument put forward by some that the EU ‘stands for human rights’ because it was formed with the aim of bringing peace and co-operation to Europe is unconvincing. To those on its borders, in its prisons, and on the blunt end economic policies, the EU is hardly a protector.
The EU is government. Not a meeting for negotiation of independent governments.
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Talk about trying to start a fight in an empty room....
The room is not empty. I was responding to someone who approached me.
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I don't believe there is, no.
Belief has nowt to do with it.
You suggested a negotiation. 2 sides. PR with foot in both sides. Conflict of interest.
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But who, apart from the right wing inside and outside of the Tory party, were calling for a referendum?
As I see it, Cameron was not able to persuade the right wingers in his own party to shut the f*** up and was feart they'd all sod off and join the swivel-eyed loons in UKIP.
Is that any basis for all this fuss?
There has been cross party "euro-scepticism" for decades and the elected government promised it in their pre-election manifesto. That's the basis.
The swivel eyed loons of UKIP and their position on the EU were supported by 3,8/3,9 million voters in 2015. If you add their vote (12.7%) to that of the Tories(36.8%) it amounts to 49.5% percent of the popular votes cast being in favour of parties promising an in/out referendum on membership of the EU. I'm not familiar with the manifestos of the main Ulster Unionist parties but I imagine they to may have supported a referendum ( and I note the UUP have recently officially backed the "remain" side) which would add another 1.5%.
It is perhaps true that many politicians were reluctant to offer a referendum, but using the 2015 general election as a pseudo referendum on a referendum the people were fairly evenly split.
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I'm sure the club consulted the Weirs PR representative prior to putting them in an "awkward position". She does sit on our board, after all.
As for the rest of your post...absolute drivel.
No conflict of interests there then.
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Our generous benefactors are on record as saying -
"On winning the lottery almost three years ago, we made a decision not to speak publicly about any aspect of our lives. We are not celebrities, nor politicians, nor public figures. We try to live quiet, decent lives just as we did before."
Perhaps the club will show greater empathy with the Weirs' sentiments, avoid putting them in awkward positions and not proceed with any further ostentatious acts of gratitude to draw these good people into the public eye.
I also have reservations with the club for the misappropriation of the word "patron" and asserting it as a special title or elevated position. While the Weirs can be addressed as "patrons" and their contributions, for which I am sure we are all supremely grateful, maybe exceptional in their size and significant in what they facilitate, the lesser contributions of many fans may be no less a sacrifice to them and should entitle them to similar respect and gratitude. I have little doubt that Mr. Weir himself would be more comfortable known as a "fan" rather than "patron", and one who like many others have given and paid considerable portions of their own personal "fortunes" to the jags cause. Furthermore, I suspect, despite the phenomenal proportion of his gift, he may feel some embarrassment at the suggestion he is the "first ever" to have generously donated to, or for that matter, been a customer of the club.
No jealousy of those who can afford a season ticket, just a word of warning not to disrespect the PATG punters.
And of course the elephant in the room .... the Weirs' well known political persuasion, the SNP and Scottish independence. Not a problem to us... come on in, what ye drinking? You buying? triffic!! I'll have a pint, thanks. Make yersel at home, I'll grab ye a cushion and you put yer feet up. Put on yer jags scarf, relax and watch the game..... Sign the guest book.... ,muckin in and helping with the clear up is grand.... just not so sure if carving your name in the table is a good idea even if the current boss told you to do it (he's having a rerr terr on your tab and might be a bit pissed). We've a got a reputation to keep..... Here, have ye met ma pal, he's a disgruntled unionist, but he's been comin to Firhill for about 30 year, ....mon i'll introduce yeez....
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That explains a lot.
No he doesn't.
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Club Statement, Fixtures
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Luckily celtic and rangers are never drawn to play in glasgow on the same day unless they are playing each other.