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Since last time...

More good reason to bookmark our ever-changing home page - we've added an Archive News section, which will give you a same-day notice if we add a new page or make any noteworthy updates (quite apart from the in-numerable trivial updates which go on all the time).

The trend seems to be for our match hubs to be uploaded the day after the match; keep an eye out for our unique reports and stats. The BSC game marked the end of the longest-ever close season, the game at Tynecastle seen us field an all-Scottish starting eleven for the first time in over 8 years and unwanted history was made when we failed to beat Ayr at home for a sixth consecutive game. By the end of Friday's game with Hearts we had witnessed 50 substitutions and introduced 13 new Jags to the Archive. It's been a bit lively! Still struggling on naming some of the match officials if anyone has the info, please do share.

All 5 of our tables from the Summer Cup (2), July Cup, Spring Cup and Intertoto Cup were added to the site today. The full reference-quality suite of 186 major and minor League and Cup tables* is now at your fingertips, anytime you need them.

Onto Paisley... can we maintain our astonishing record of being unbeaten in all competitive season openers in the 21st century?

 

 

* Until such times as we discover that the Gathering of the Clans Tournament was a round-robin in which case we'll need to dispatch a special agent to Canada to investigate further!

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On 9/28/2020 at 3:39 PM, East Kent Jag II said:

Had a look at the Archive today.  One of the games listed is from 28 Sep 1889.  A friendly against Albion Rovers.  It starts "Because both clubs were "overthrown" in the Scottish Cup....."

I took it that overthrown meant beaten. So I went to the "Matches" section, and looked up the fixtures for September 1889.  Yes there it was. On 7 Sept 1889   3rd L.R.V. 3 Thistle 2 at Cathkin Park. In the match info, wonderful photos of most of the players.

I took it that "3rd L.R.V."   was what I know to be Third Lanark.  So a Google search confirmed that "Third Lanark A.C." was an offshoot of the "3rd Lanarkshire Rifle Volunteers",  and 3rd L.R.V. was a founder member club of the SFA.

I didn't know the origin of Third Lanark, and its a shame that a club with such an illustrious origin and history had to fold.  I  think there is still a Third Lanark club in amateur football.

A lovely journey in the "Thistle Archive" all because of the term "overthrown".  Its not that I don't have other things to do, but I'm glad that I made this journey into history.

Will like this post later when the allowances are replenished!

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On 9/24/2020 at 8:15 PM, partickthedog said:

I love all the painstaking detail. Even among the St Johnstone line up we had Paul Paton flagged as ex-Jag and Steven Anderson flagged as future-Jag. Hats off to all involved.

Thanks for noticing ptd, warms the cockles. We've got every player, every game covered in that regard, all the way from 1876, as far as it's possible to know. Wait 'til you see "current Jag" in the opposition line-up, that'll really blow your mind!

Saved the recent update for you before it gets chucked in the digital trash bin.  It's a scary looking timespan for the silver-haired one...

 

Blair Lyons:
07.09.2019 Montrose [a] W2-0 (Challenge Cup 3rd Round)

Ciaran McKenna:
12.01.2019 Falkirk [h] D1-1 (SPFL Championship - game 21)
16.03.2019 Falkirk [a] D1-1 (SPFL Championship - game 28)
20.07.2019 Hamilton Academical [a] D2-2 (League Cup Group F - game 3)

Connor Murray:
20.01.2018 Queen of the South [a] W2-1 (Scottish Cup 4th Round)
22.09.2018 Queen of the South [h] W3-2 (SPFL Championship - game 6)
01.12.2018 Queen of the South [a] L0-1 (SPFL Championship - game 15)
26.01.2019 Queen of the South [h] W2-1 (SPFL Championship - game 22)
04.05.2019 Queen of the South [a] W3-0 (SPFL Championship - game 36)
05.10.2019 Queen of the South [h] L0-1 (SPFL Championship - game 8)
07.12.2019 Queen of the South [a] W2-1 (SPFL Championship - game 16)

Declan Glass:
25.08.2018 Dundee United [a] L1-3 (SPFL Championship - game 3)
11.01.2020 Dundee United [h] L1-4 (SPFL Championship - game 21)
07.03.2020 Dundee United [a] D1-1 (SPFL Championship - game 26)

Richard Foster:
10.05.2003 Aberdeen [a] L1-2 (Scottish Premier League - game 36)
13.12.2003 Aberdeen [h] L0-3 (Scottish Premier League - game 16)
09.03.2004 Aberdeen [a] D0-0 (Scottish Premier League - game 27)
01.05.2004 Aberdeen [h] W2-0 (Scottish Premier League - game 35)
26.09.2007 Aberdeen [h] L0-2 (League Cup 3rd Round)
19.09.2015 Ross County [a] L0-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 8)
19.12.2015 Ross County [h] W1-0 (SPFL Premiership - game 18)
09.04.2016 Ross County [a] L0-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 33)
10.09.2016 St Johnstone [h] L0-2 (SPFL Premiership - game 4)
29.10.2016 St Johnstone [a] W2-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 11)
01.02.2017 St Johnstone [h] L0-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 23)
11.02.2017 St Johnstone [a] W1-0 (Scottish Cup 5th Round)
13.05.2017 St Johnstone [a] L0-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 36)
08.08.2017 St Johnstone [a] W3-0 (League Cup 2nd Round)
19.08.2017 St Johnstone [a] L0-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 3)
28.04.2018 St Johnstone [a] D1-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 35)

Ross Docherty:
24.09.2011 Livingston [a] L1-2 (SFL First Division - game 7)
11.02.2012 Livingston [a] L1-3 (SFL First Division - game 21)
31.03.2012 Livingston [h] L2-3 (SFL First Division - game 30)
15.09.2012 Livingston [a] W2-1 (SFL First Division - game 5)
28.07.2018 Ayr United [h] L0-2 (League Cup Group E - game 4)
04.08.2018 Ayr United [a] L0-2 (SPFL Championship - game 1)
27.10.2018 Ayr United [h] L0-1 (SPFL Championship - game 11)
31.08.2019 Ayr United [h] L2-3 (SPFL Championship - game 4)
02.11.2019 Ayr United [a] L1-4 (SPFL Championship - game 12)
31.01.2020 Ayr United [h] D1-1 (SPFL Championship - game 23)

Salim Kouider-Aissa:
16.07.2019 Queen's Park [a] W2-1 (League Cup Group F - game 2)

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On 9/21/2020 at 4:27 PM, partickthedog said:

What were they all staring at? Is this a new form of intimidation that can be applied when socially distanced?

If they had any sense they would be staring at the Thistle Archive. So much to enjoy and very more-ish. Once you venture in, you keep finding more interesting sidelines and you are drawn further in until there is no escape. As in the ancient Scottish proverb, "a loch at which a gnat may drink, and in which an elephant may bathe."

One thing I must check later is a sort of opposite to the point you mention. What was the most number of different nationalities to feature in a Thistle line up? I think it was a 7 nation army and that Muzzy Dumbuya was one of the contributors, but that is all I can remember. Looks like I have no option but to venture into the site again. In the words of Captain Oates "I may be gone some time".

 

Cheers bud 

I quite like the thought of ten mad mental Scots and a Northern Irish hard man with a pre-match stare down of the BSC. None of this cuddly nonsense!

Re the seven nation army etc, the list can get long and complex, depending on how you apply the permutations, but put simply in competitive action terms, the current records are: 10 non-Scots on the field at the same time (first set 19-Aug-2017); 9 non-Scots in the starting eleven (first set 15-Apr-2017), 8 nations represented in the Thistle appearances tally (first set 05-Apr-2016) and 8 nations represented in the Thistle starting eleven (first set 24-Feb-2018).

 

On 9/21/2020 at 5:24 PM, Auld Jag said:

You should be part of thistle Archive team ptd.

Stand by for 1,001 web pages full of doublets, hogans and players with oo in their name!

 

 

  Added to the Archive today, our 9 minor League Tables (1898-1913) incorporating the Glasgow League, Western League, Inter City League and Glasgow & District Mid-Week League.

 

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And so ended the longest close-season (193 days) in Thistle's history. To celebrate, we've got a brand new page in the club records section looking at all of our fixture gap & season length records.

Our hub for the BSC match is now in place, featuring ten Scots in the staring line-up. When was the last time we had the full eleven? Check the Stats Watch tab! Note, we're missing the names of Saturday's assistant refs if anyone has them?

We have NINE new Jags taking their permanent place in the Archive's A-Z; Richard Foster, Ciaran McKenna, Rhys Breen, Blair Lyons, Salim Kouider-Aissa, Charlie Reilly, Kieran Wright, Conor Murray & Ross Docherty. Conor Murray follows Brian Graham in the scoring debutants club.

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  The Thistle Archive tour (4/4) - Partickles / Help!

With a title shamelessly nicked (from an old programme feature I believe), our Partickles section is the perfect space for content creators to permanently house any original articles on Partick Thistle. Re-publishing of old works or first-time presentations are equally welcome. Simply send us in your copy via our Contact page on Word or a PDF, and we'll take care of the online formatting.

Starting us off is Douglas Gorman's Alex Hair Story as well as a couple from Jack Little You Couldn't Make It Up!  (collected press curios which were too good to pass by) and Factions & Fractions, looking back at the recent summer of discontent caused by the SPFL's appalling leadership; “a tale of bad blood, rancour, division, self-interest and missed opportunities” says Jack. He's not wrong there. I (William Sheridan) very much enjoyed writing Who Put The Ball In The Rangers Net?, and you can expect the Celtic equivalent as a Christmas countdown this coming December; the embryo is formed! I'll sprinkle in a few of my older works here and there, hopefully in-between submissions from others. We'll see how it goes.

All throughout the site you'll see question marks asking you to get in touch if you can help with any of our unresolved questions, or imminent tasks. You might have noticed, for example, that Alan Hansen's debut is yet to be absolutely confirmed as we'd like. Many of our general questions are consolidated on our Help! page. For example, we'd be very grateful to hear from any computer programmers able to freely assist with our i-frame embed problem on the home page. The pay's lousy (ok, it's non-existent!), but you'll get a big thank you in our credits section.

Finally, we'd just like to underline that the most important thing to us as site creators is that our data is 100% accurate, subjective conundrums (from which we do not shirk) notwithstanding. If any data corrections are required, they'll be applied as a priority, hopefully on the same day. In this regard, 4 eyes are greater than 2, and 400 eyes are 100 times greater again.

We'd very much like to think that this is a site that we can all play a part in, so please don't hesitate to get in touch with your ideas, spotting typos, answering questions, offering help or making contributions. You can get in touch via P&B, WAT, Twitter or, best of all, by sending us a message via our Contact page.

Thanks very much for taking the tour and for all your kind words of support, it's much appreciated by all of us. 

#COYJ  #FTOF  #OTIG

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9 hours ago, partickthedog said:

Brilliantly organised and yet delightfully random. Thistle-ness at its best.

Talking about delightfully random, this page is all your fault

 

  The Thistle Archive tour (3/4) - Lists

In our Result's Summaries section we've compiled 21 tables (all with sortable headers) to summarize all sorts of match data up to the end of the last season. Answers to a myriad of stats queries are at your fingertips with these tables, which include tallies of results, clean-sheets, penalty goals, penalty misses, yellow and red cards, 1875-76 to 2019-20. For example, if you wanted to know on which ground (away from home) we've had most competitive wins, you'd check the Results Summary by venue table, where you'd discover we've won more competitive matches at Cappielow (43) than anywhere else, closely followed by Hampden Park (41).

We've met 143 clubs in competitive action and we have H2H profiles for each and every one of these, comprehensive where merited e.g. basic for LASK Linz and more advanced for Motherwell, where you'll find detailed tabs for results summary, record scores, record sequences and all individual scorers as well as the full list of matches.

Other list section pages cater for club-records, tables and goals, with our All-time goalscorers charts (inc. every goal), Top scorers per season and Every known hat-trick lists being particularly noteworthy. FYI, we're currently finalizing the tabulation of our minor League and Cup tables, and you can expect to see these very soon.

Elsewhere, the lists section veers off the beaten track with a number of unusual pages, so it's well worth exploring at your leisure. The section finishes with an A-Z profiling all known match officials, 1876 to date, where you'll find a special mention for the ridiculous duo Barry Cook and Jordan Stokoe.

Any questions / ideas fire away, final part of the tour this evening...

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^ Consider all your replies liked, even if the stingy rationing system disallows it to be graphically demonstrated. 

8 hours ago, BowenBoys said:

Great site. Was wondering what you were doing with yourself, TJR. Well  done to you and the gang.

And well done to you Phil, on doing such an amazing job with Red/Yellow, you make it seem oh-so-easy to create a whole new business (it's really not). 

6 hours ago, Jaggernaut said:

Random player: Denis McQuade.

Very apt, they don't come more random than Denis!

 

  The Thistle Archive tour (2/4) - Players

Our Player's A-Z features every player (1,900+) known to have been listed on a Partick Thistle first-team teamsheet, 1876 to date. At the very least, mini-bios are included for all, even the short-lived obscuros e.g. Kane Hemmings. As things stand, these mini-bios offer no critical insight, but we're open to the idea of extending them in some shape or form yet to be decided, perhaps by a new Thistle Archivist? A big project for someone...

Current squad players carry a fairly comprehensive stats overview for this season, as well as their Thistle career to date e.g. James Penrice.

Every goal in the club's history which can knowingly be attributed to any given player (10391 of 11339) is listed within each player's profile, as are each and every one of the 750+ penalties taken e.g. Chic Charnley.

Looking ahead to the future, our specially applied profile for Alan Hansen gives an idea of how we'd like to shape the player hubs, with several tabs covering every game, Thistle honours, International Caps, Photo Gallery, Stats Watch and more.

Directly related to these A-Z profiles, we've added a major section for player's club connections, with almost 8,000 connections identified at more than 1,400 clubs from all around the world, all the way from Auchinleck to Adelaide. Throughout the site, we're always asking for help; any more connections that you know of, do get in touch.

A couple of mildly interesting Top 10s...

Most connected clubs:
134 - Ayr United
132 - St Mirren
129 - Dumbarton

125 - Falkirk

121 - Rangers
117 - Hamilton Academical
111 - Greenock Morton
109 - Dunfermline Athletic
106 - Queen's Park
105 - Queen of the South

Most clubs:
32 - Ritchie Pacquette
26 - Jose Quitongo
21 - Dave Rogers
21 - David Byrne

20 - Tommy Barber
19 - Andy Roddie
19 - Leon Constantine
19 - Nigel Jemson
19 - Peter Kyle
18 - Chic Charnley
18 - Greg Strong
18 - Jason Banton
18 - Richard Huxford

Finally in the players section, our Squad Stats tables give you a sense of the most important players on a season-by-season basis. Each season's summary table is applied simultaneously as we sign off the match hubs for any given season, so we currently have 40 out of 146 good to go, the rest to follow when time allows.

Any questions / ideas fire away, pt 3 of the tour tmw morning...

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A wee tour of the site, together with some of our future plans (c/w handy emoticon!)

 

  The Thistle Archive tour (1/4) - Matches

Our unique match hubs (currently 1461/6599 uploaded) are at the very heart of the Archive and, in time, we'll have one in place for every known match, 1876 to date. Access them by clicking on the match result in any of the given season overview pages above.

As well as the summary header featuring attendance (90% fulfillment) and half-time score (96% fulfillment), a minimum of three tabs are omnipresent e.g.  Thistle 3 Celtic 0. The "Match Information" tab ideally features the 2-way line-ups with forenames and surnames identified wherever possible, as well as goalscorers with timings and more. We've got 97.4% fulfillment Thistle on Thistle's starting eleven slots, with the opposition (a work in progress) not too far behind. The "Match Report" tab carries, at the very least, our own potted report for each and every game, as well as contemporary accounts transcribed wherever we have them collected. The "Stats Watch" tab is in place for each and every game, currently loaded with 25,000+ stats over the years, albeit many of these games have yet to be uploaded.

As well as these three "core" tabs, the occasional "Scrapbook" tab usually houses cut-outs from match-day newspaper reports, but can also include side stories, previews or match-day memorabilia such as programme covers, match tickets or pictures. Several hundred of the games will feature a "Video Highlights" tab; our aim is to embed a match highlights video for every match where such media is freely available. A juicy match-hub in full effect.

Currently we've got 40 seasons covered, 106 to go. Whilst we could fairly easily upload basic hubs for the rest (about 80 hours of uploading), the decision's been taken to hold off until we've got them to the Thistle Archive reference-quality standard. This could yet take another few years, depending on personal circumstances. You can probably expect to see them being delivered in batches of 15-20 seasons at a time, with the next lot (1907-08 to 1924-25 inclusive) set to arrive in the next 2/3 months.

Relating to these match hubs, we're planning on having a separate menu for match videos only, which will enable you to get straight to the action in any one of several hundred games via one simple page. But that's another story for another day.

Any questions / ideas fire away, pt 2 of the tour this evening...

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7 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said:

Tremendous site.

And nice to hear from you again, TJR.

Aw, thanks lib! Take it you heard about the site already via our all expenses spared marketing campaign on P & B?

By some miracle, we've managed to attract 685 unique visitors in our first week which isn't too bad in the circumstances.

 

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A few of us Jags fans / forum members - myself William Sheridan (TJR), Jack Little (afkincaid), Stuart Deans (StuTheJag) & Niall MacTaggart (Camallain) -  have been working on a new website - The Thistle Archive - which is basically a unique and accurate online encyclopedia of Partick Thistle stats and stories, 1876 to date. The site launched last Monday (7 September) with almost 7,000 pages in place, but is still very much in its infancy.

Have a look around and see what you think. (What random player did you get?)

http://www.thethistlearchive.net/

We're looking to spread the word, so any help to do that on social media would be appreciated. We're on Twitter, but are currently "shadow-banned" (tweets not reaching timelines etc) as we've been tweeting too many links and they've marked us down as spammers. Groan. Hopefully this ban will be lifted soon.

https://twitter.com/thistlearchive

Anyway, you can communicate any site-related discussion here on WAT via this profile and we'll make a few posts here over the forthcoming days to show you around. Hopefully it'll be something we can all enjoy using.

'mon the Jags!