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The current PR c0ck up from PTFC Ltd has inspired some talk "fan ownership", Can't say I'm sold on the idea as others might see it nor that convinced it would be successfull at Firhill. Regardless of their flaws, and current bloopers, I think we have much to be grateful to the current "custodians" for.... £3M to £600k in debt or something like that? Whether you agree with me about that or not the list of truely succesful "fan owned" clubs in the UK is not all that long nor is it inspiringly illustrious. Added to that the story of the The Jags Trust is not exactly one of unity and corporate tact achieving its' stated goals and aspirations. I do beleive in fan power and hope the current display of solidarity over the NS results in a positive result for the masses. However, wouldn't it be good to have some financial clout over the established, and on the whole, currently, reasonably, ... argueably well run... ... ... .... surviving?... Ltd, co. without having to brandish the fans favourite weapon "that's me done/stick your season ticket up yer pipe". We all know that aint healthy for any club. So... TAG ... So far, not much good. I'm being a bit flippant, but prize draws, dicounts i'm unlikely to use, membership cards and a glass of wine with a director don't really juice up my jaggyboz. I'm thinking, we're in the top flight for another season, We're told we're breaking even and in no imminent danger of armageddon but being asked to give more cash to people, who openly admit they are no experts, to spend on our club for ultimately our benefit. So, while waiting for a peep from the hapless heid honchos 'bout the NS boo-boo, thought i'd run this up the ol' noo thread flag-pole for keyboard warrior target practice. It's mostly a re-mix of a previous post on a TAG thread, but never got much of a bite before. Maybe the past few days of director-fan disconnect might get a few folks thinking... Scrap Tag. It would be a better idea to set up a club for those who can contribute a little more financially or with there time, on the basis free registration for those willing to volunteer and the creation of a fund generated by members who can afford it. The use of that fund being democratically decided by the members. At the first stage, whatever you as member thought helpful, productive, commercial or even just fan friendly fun could be proposed. For example, toilet refurbishments, pie stal upgrade, employ a janny, disabled fan access and viewing improvements, add to Archie's player fund, donate to Thistle Weir, a 100x100 foot keep the north stand red and yellow flag!!! A shortlist of such projects and others, recommended or requested by the board, could be whittled down through a series of online polls by the club members. A final vote would decide how any money raised is spent, or even saved or invested for a rainy day. That would give the members clarity on the direction and benefits of their contributions and their membership real power, value, significance and influence. Some level of basic registration, without the benefits of Tag Core or Plus, free of charge to my mind is essential( there could be 2 levels of paying membership with certain benefits, but people coud give as little or as much as they felt able). Perhaps it would just mean being put on an e-mailing list or acces to an on-line forum similar to this, but that would serve as a statistics gathering and maketing tool for the club and help make potential contributors feel a little more "connected". We do not want those with an unnurtured interest being turned off if developing or even registering that interest starts to become costly without so much as seeing the team play! Perhaps basic membership would involve some kind of voluntary service, programme selling, 50/50 draw selling, sweeping up, painting and decorating, flyering, flyer design, social networking, web/I.T. assistance.... The club would have to contribute the office space and possibly commit to staffing costs until it could fund itself. Current Tag prizes that would cost little to deliver, like team bus travel and e-mailed programes to Nomad fans are great, but the emphasis of such a club for a business running on a level such as the Jags Ltd. should be of the "ask not what your club can do for you, ask what you can do for your club" type." Tag hopes to get 5000 on board spending 60-120 quid a year and if reaching that target raising, i approximate, £300k-£500k. Wouldn't it be nice if we all had at least a little say in how that was spent on our club, saved for our club, invested for our club?