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Raith issue new shares worth £500k
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1 minute ago, erty13 said:
Aero is the vice captain and will not get dropped,
Banigan is one of the senior pros, and will not hit dropped.
Doolan needs to make some tough decisions, to improve the team.
Milne, muirhead, neilson , McMillan, lawless , Fitzpatrick, Graham will start every game unless injured or suspended which leaves three spots for bannigan, stanway, mcilroy and Alston …..no evidence so far this will change
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2 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said:
But not unreasonable
Or unreasonable or meh
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Strange game … should have been 3-0 at half time … we go 3-1 up and then disappear and have nervy finish
our defensive unit is of continuing concern
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Muirhead ffs
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Nice goal … now let’s score a few more
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6 minutes ago, Lenziejag said:
I didn’t assert anything of the sort. I made the logical conclusion that given their new owners probable new investment and our reduced budget of at least £600K that it would be reasonable for them to be above us in the league.
Both assertions are unsupported .
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If our final pass had been better we would 2 or 3 up
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Dominating the game and then classic thistle
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31 minutes ago, Lenziejag said:
Why do I need data on Raith.
Because this started with your assertion they have more money than us , which you have not provided any information for but that’s fine it’s just something you think.
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29 minutes ago, Lenziejag said:
There is data. We know that we had a £600K hole in our 22/23 budget. As I said it is only logical to think that resulted in significant reduction in the 23/24 playing budget.
You have provided no data on Raith … again.
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44 minutes ago, Lenziejag said:
I am making no pivot. It is logical to think that the Kelty owners took over RR and put some money in. Even if they were just maintaining their budget, what isn’t in doubt is that we were in financial turmoil and again logic dictates that that the playing budget was cut. It’s not what I believe- it’s what makes sense.
Just as I could say the guys who bought Raith didn’t have a lot cash left over after buying the club so their budget isn’t much bigger than ours……but then again it’s just punting speculation to suit a point of view.
In the absence of any actual data it’s just speculation.
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9 hours ago, Barney Rubble said:
What exactly is your agenda javeajag?
Full disclosure please - to an objective (in my case) observer of Doolan's tenure, I have the impression that you are desperate for him to fail for some reason.
Or have I read that wrong???
Wrong….i don’t have an agenda just possibly not willing to give the club and the manager lots of excuses for not being in the title mix as others.
I wasn’t in favour of sacking McCall last season and don’t think we should sack Doolan now either but he will soon be in the job for a year and needs to judged like every other manager..
We have not progressed from last season and performances have not been great either.
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3 minutes ago, jagfox said:
Hopefully we can see a rabbit or two pulled out the magic hat this January.
Let’s hope so !
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2 minutes ago, jagfox said:
I gave it a generous C rating 🤣
Agreed
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7 minutes ago, jagfox said:
They signed a solid set of players to add to the core they retained.
We lost the core and replaced them with young untried players or more experienced players with dodgy injury records.
Unlike the plug and play strategy McCall enjoyed when the budget he was given, allowed.
You seem to be supporting my point that recruitment has been poor.
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7 minutes ago, jagfox said:
They have had an insane number of late goals but have gone off the boil lately. Even losing one to Arbroath's reserve keeper who had to play outfield as they were short of numbers.
Football is non-binary apart from results and the league table.
They have won more games than us but how do you know they've played better?
We've played poorly in games but still won them this season.
I wouldn't be too surprised if we finish above Raith come season's end but that could be pie in the sky thinking.
I'm struggling to get what point you're trying to make?
Why not give your half-time report card as the thread suggests?
The truth is usually somewhere in the middle of opinion.
There seems to be group think that we can’t win the league because ..,
- we lost four players
- other teams have more money
- we had financial problems
- we couldn’t recruit on time
which seem designed to ensure we all accept we can’t get promoted
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6 minutes ago, Fawlty Towers said:
Last time I checked the number in front of your club name in the table was what mattered when it came to deciding who gets promoted, relegated, etc. And even taking your point about points it still represents our 2nd best total which does not, for me anyway, indicate some worrying level of under achieving.
Correct and last season while we were 5th as this point we made 4th by other results going our way no much real improvement
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5 minutes ago, jagfox said:
With regards to Raith, they have gone from a club making an annual loss of around £150,000 per year in front of 2000 crowds, to almost double that this season. They've signed at least three players with recent Premiership experience.
They have new owners who bankrolled Kelty and are now doing the same both on and off the park.
They have been able to take less chances in the transfer market, a bit like us over the previous two seasons as they had the ability to sign players outwith the budget of other Championship clubs. May be partly down to timing as they knew where they'd be playing way before us. Mostly will be done to a very healthy budget.
They also signed players who were free agents after the window shut … none of which explains why they have they played. Better than us
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6 minutes ago, Norgethistle said:
None of these teams were putting out financial Armageddon statements prior to season start, we were.
Excuse number 4….
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2 minutes ago, jagfox said:
I did before you took the thread in a slightly different direction, mate. There are many factors to take on board. I feel taking them into account the league table is about right. The only games I think we could have taken maximum points in, but didn't were against Raith which could have put a whole different spin on our league position.
Only if you disregard those other factors
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2 minutes ago, Fawlty Towers said:
With nothing better to do today here is our halfway position in each of the Championship seasons since we got relagated from the top flight:
18/19 - 9th (14 points)
19/20 - 9th (18 points)
21/22 - 5th (31 points)
22/23 - 5th (27 points)
23/24 - 3rd (29 points)
So our best league position at this stage of this season and if the manager is doing it with a few players who are not as good as ones who have been here in those previous seasons I say good on him.
Yes but not our best points total so …
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1 hour ago, jagfox said:
Nobody outwith the actual clubs know their accounts for the season to date. We can only look at logic. One key indicator of income is match day attendance.
The following would suggest we are performing above expectation when compared to punters coming through the gate. It also suggests Raith are over-performing with United and the Pars underperforming based on attendance and their perceived income, at the moment.
Then again football isn't played on balance sheets...
Again, just opinion but that is the nature of football forums.
Correct….land the issue is whether the difference in finances are sufficiently large to in itself to make a huge difference in performance and between us and Raith there is no evidence it is.
but let’s not focus on team performance, player recruitment or management.
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24 minutes ago, Lenziejag said:
I need to provide evidence that the people that owned Kelty took over Raith Rovers at the tail end of last season ?
Nice pivot …..so you like many others have no idea whether have spent more on their squad than us but for some reason want to believe they have.
Half time report
in Main Jags forum
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The undeniable truth is that lots of thistle fans can give you lots of reasons / excuses/ justifications why the club is not successful, why 3rd place in the league is a great / not unreasonable in the circumstances and that clubs have lots more money than us without providing any data or information on the subject using words like ‘ I heard …’, ‘ it’s likely ‘ or ‘ I imagine ‘, while choosing to ignore that the club currently top of the league has less money than the club second in the table …..cue let me tell you why that couldn’t be us …..