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54 minutes ago, sandy said:
Doolan is not out of his depth. He is learning as a manager and trying to get a new squad to gel.
There you have it, one of the movers and shakers in TJF happy to accept shite. Sounds about right with the fans of this club.
Chances of us ever doing what Killie did there. Zero.
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Doolan out of his depth. This team is a mirror of McCall and Archie's.
Any legends left for us to hire at this point? Seeing as we don't want anyone who doesn't understand the thistle way, of perennially losing.
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Not like us to throw a lead away.
Doolan's teams look and play the exact same way as McCall's and Archie's, total deja vu watching that. They aren't going to sack him so Doolan needs an experienced head to help him, and we all knew the risks giving him the job so it's up to them to help him. Brian Graham, the finger pointing world champion will be the next manager anyway so no rush from me to get him out. The fans have made it clear they don't want anyone who doesn't know the club in positions of power on or off the park, yet it's that clear minded, lack of sentiment that's sorely needed to put an end to the gravy train and gut the place. No more cushy deals for passengers like Bannigan just coz they're "legends". Its too cosy up at Firhill.
Airdrie wanted that more yesterday which is totally unacceptable. They've a 30 year old manager and much smaller budget. Absolutely no excuses for what we saw.
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More chance of the Warriors coming back here. We're skint and the athletics groups and local residents have basically blocked any further expansion of Scotstoun.
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We will be feeding off the scraps, loan signings and maybe a veteran or two who will take peanuts to stay full-time. Bite your hand off for 8th now.
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Whole stadium is a problem. JH, seats, as outlined, the roof has holes all over. Main stand just see above. Bing is an embarrassment. Main stand is the saddest as its a tremendous piece of architecture especially the exterior thats been awfully neglected.
Needs to be a masterplan for Firhill and our facilities. Ayr United are building a new stand, Raith Rovers, renovating two. It seems like for a while now we've been ambling slowly towards the decay and disrepair of it with absolutely no plan until we hit a crisis, nor do we seem bothered.
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Club need to be actively looking, and I'd like to think as cited above its been ongoing. Something of more substance to plug the holes as opposed to begging for supporters to dig deeper yet again.
Planning permission last lodged (and granted) in 2015 (https://publicaccess.glasgow.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?keyVal=NFR8NBEXW4000&activeTab=summary) for the firhill developments iteration. No willing developer at the time. I'd say the state of play around the stadium has considerably changed since then.
That canalside land is not the derelict and abandoned ex foundry land it was in years gone by. Massive regeneration has gone into the canal from Port Dundas all the way up to Firhill in the last few years and isn't stopping, including even away from the close proximity of the canal down to the likes of the new bike lanes on Garscube rd.
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Club have to be actively exploring options for the bing again at this point.
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You reap what you sow. Bannigan has been an undeserved darling for years now and was a complete weak link the second he came on the field. Its our loser mentality that we put an average declining player like him on a pedestal and what a surprise hes heavily involved in the collapse. Roll on the testimonial when we can talk about all those great goals of his, sorry yellow cards.
No surprise Brownlie at fault again either for one of the goals. Another one who the warning signs were there for.
This year was a chance and we blew it. United will buy an otherwise weak league next season and we're left feeding off scraps again.
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Think Graham needs a rest. Not got the legs to be playing twice a week now. Dowds and Mullen should be good options in reserve so no need to run him into the ground with loads of the season left.
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Several parents appear to be picking apart the club's statement. I'm stunned.
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Players and parents turned up to training during the week to find the teams have been cut with immediate effect.
This is the club who told the fans they didn't need their money. All done on the hush as usual again, with nothing from the club as of yet. More transparency from the KGB than Firhill these days.
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More things change the more they stay the same.
Losing late goals, losing goals from set pieces, powderpuff mindset where we don't have the guts to grind out results against weaker teams, players mysteriously disappearing out of the team unexpectedly.
That is one of the worst games I've been to where we haven't actually lost. Up there with Culter. Cove are a rubbish part time team who will be relegation fodder. We have the ability to win the league but we don't have the organisation or mentality to do it.
It all goes back to McCalls loser mentality and Archibald's training. Not fit enough, not organised enough. If they weren't time-wasting they could have easily gotten a third.
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The secrecy doesn't even look like it's over. Some guy Stewart Macgregor all over the club Facebook page who wasn't mentioned in the initial PTFC trust statement giving it the big I'm in the know and know what I'm talking about and then going quiet as soon as people question him about it. Imagine that?
Weirs legacy is one of the worst thing to ever happen to PTFC. Money wasted on rubbish players, saddled us with Low and not a penny spent on facilities.
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1 minute ago, Lenziejag said:
QP have the same problem as us in terms of catchment. It is in Glasgow.
They won't be an amateur club plodding along in league 1 or 2 drawing 4-500 when they go back. They're going to be a very different club with elite infrastructure in terms of facilties and personnel.
Our setup is tinpot by comparison. We will never be a sustainable Premier League club whilst it's Low and McCall in charge. We got lucky when we had a wee run with the likes of Rangers, Hearts etc being out on their arse. Once they all got back we got found out and are back at our level. Championship irrelevance.
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Same old Ian McCall. Can't grind out results v teams like Hamilton, Qp etc. He's a nearly man and we'll never achieve anything with him. Sooner people realise that the better.
Club is going nowhere on and off the park.
Glimpse into the future for folk. Once QP are back at their home they'll overtake us permanently. Southside of Glasgow is a huge catchment, its not a village like Gretna. We've just stagnated horrendously as a club and have such low self esteem and expectations. Our place in the Scottish Football pecking order now is not as a premier league club. We've got a mickey mouse setup run by inept people.
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1 minute ago, Norgethistle said:
No one knows except 3BC.
For fan ownership to actually be “Fan” ownership it needs fans to be informed, engaged and onboard.
The Jags Foundation has all of these (Plus raising over £70k a year that could supplement existing budget) with over 640 (and rising) active members, the biggest fan organization in recent history at the club, it keeps its members informed, we all have faces and bio’s for all to see.
To date the rival “preferred” party (to my knowledge) has no membership, no engagement, no names associated with it.
Transparent & Dynamic Vs Who knows
All will be apparent by next Friday and maybe we’ll get a pleasant surprise as fans and if so I’m sure the Foundation would be more than willing to work with them going forward, or maybe we won’t get what we thought we were getting.
Time will tell, and I’ll keep an opened mind till then, but The Jags Foundation is not going away, we plan to continue to grow to give our membership a real voice going forward.
is it unrealistic to think it isn't a fan...perhaps someone originally from the local area or a loose fan who has done well in business? i.e. willie haughey at qp, its his local team but we all know he isnt really a queens park fan
seems to be absolutely no sign or trace of any alternative fan proposal.
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does anyone know if the current "fan" directors are involved in an alternative bid as part of team low? these people have been very very quiet
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better be a good 'un they have picked as the preferred bidder
i suspect however jacqui will still have her fingers in the pie in some way, i smell a rat.
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That's the second time I remember recently without the interruption of covid I remember issues with away fans in the JH with our latest failure of a peny pinching exercise. I remember Clyde fans mocking John Lambies death and then allowed to mingle with and verbally abuse home fans in the concourse, many being families up that end. Then yesterday we had four turnstiles and a pie stall and toilets for 150 odd Hamilton fans whilst hundreds of Thistle fans were stuck outside after kick off. Then you have Hamilton fans climbing the segregation during the game.
Whole experience is crap about the stadium. Holes all over the JH roof, broken and bent seats covered in bird shit, cold water in the toilets. Two empty sides of the ground. Do the people running things even care or have any pride in our support or our home? Thistle fans turfed out the JH the second the Old Firm or even an team like Hearts appear now. Ayr United are building a new stand, Arbroath investing heavily in hospitality. Do we just wait until the day the place crumbles? Stadium hasn't had any TLC in years. Let's not even start on the training ground.
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3 minutes ago, javeajag said:
Factually incorrect. The directors sold to someone else.
Because of the pressure mounted by fans spreading bullshit that they were going to rinse the club they caved in. I knew fan ownership would be bad but it's went even worse than I've thought somehow. Less than 500 sign ups and shrinking because it's an absolute shambles.
(to the point it's not even clear it'll go through)
Anything the fans touch with the running of Thistle turns to shit.
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48 minutes ago, javeajag said:
That’s all dandy , now if you could just provide an actual alternative that would be peachy
it’s easy to decry fan ownership but the reality is no one else wants to buy the club
There was someone but people like you drove them away in the end.
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12 minutes ago, jlsarmy said:
Agree with all your points apart from “ fans have the club they deserve “
Can you elaborate?
Pretty obvious I would have thought. The majority of fans wanted fan ownership, ironically only once the prospect of foreign owners appeared, such that the hunger was so evident beforehand and there was hatchet job stories in the media regarding it all suddenly beginning to appear, seem to remember one on the back of the Herald about the ground being sold, funnily enough.
So we get what we deserve. No leadership, no transparency, skint, no direction, no interest in our facilities and infrastructure. We had a taste of this before and a sign how bad it would be with the Jags Trust, fans like Cowan on the board, the people working in and around the club but fans get caught up in the emotion and get taken in with ridiculous scare stories about asset strippers. For me it was easy to see coming that it would result in us remaining in the shitter, but the majority of fans wanted this and bought the bullshit people of like Low and that charlatan Paul Goodwin so really only have themselves to blame.
By the way we don't have a scouting system either and as far as I know nothing related to analytics or sports science. There's nothing in the club directory on the website that suggests otherwise anyway.
Praise the Lord we ran off Johnny Foreigner.
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2 hours ago, eljaggo said:
Everything about the Club is third rate, and it needs a complete clear-out. That will not happen with fan ownership where sentiment is likely to trump business nous. Perhaps the best option would be a new owner willing to invest and with a strong (but not controlling) fan presence on the Board.
Huge problem at the club. Fear of outsiders, misplaced anxiety that someone would only want to buy Partick Thistle to flatten the place and put us out of business. The way I see we are heading to a slow death by a thousand cuts anyway.
The club needs more outsiders with a fresh perspective and some ruthlessness. Not a place where a fan or an ex player have a job for life and accommodating passengers just because they're perceived as our own.
That ship has sailed though and we're ******. Run like a glorified bowling club committee now.
Hearts Viaplay Cup - Sunday 20 August
in Main Jags forum
Posted · Edited by avie-man
Thats part of the problem - as outlined excellently in your post. Everything about the club is based on emotion, theres no objective judgement, we won't let someone with a fresh set of eyes come in from the outside and show the ruthlessness we need, there almost a suspicious like attitude from the fans, who now run the club about any outsiders. Thistle fans also have this warped sense of playing idealistic football, "the right way" rather than whats actually effective. We plod along with the legends on the playing side of things giving them as long as they like and the end result is 50 years of abject shite on the park and off the park ain't much better even after a lottery winner hanging around. Gary Caldwell would have been hunted after some of the form and showings of Doolan, Archie or McCall. Miles Storey or Shea Gordon or Juan Alegria or any number of bad players would get dogs abuse after a bad game cause they're not deemed to be one of our own whilst certain players get away with because of their standing in the club.
Doolan isn't going to get sacked, they've made their bed, but they need to get him some help on the managerial staff and he could at least start by dropping certain players who give the impression they've become undroppable like Bannigan and Graham.