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playoff is 4th vs 3rd, with winner playing 2nd, then the winner plays 11th
home and away for each round
So 3rd and 4th placed teams could end up playing 6 games over a couple of weeks
Good news, so I'm just nit picking really. But if this is the case then why is the SPL making the rules for how the First Division should determine which team enters the play-off? I think top four in a ten team league is too much. We didn't deserve to exit the second division after finishing fourth. I'd rather a straight play-off between second top and second bottom.
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Can't have been full time at Annan, surely. Pretty low level (relatively)
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I think we have to remember the inexperience of a lot of our team. Would I be right in thinking that this has been the first season of regular first team full-time football for Muirhead, Welsh, Bannigan and Lawless? Craigen's similar (though couldn't be called a regular for the full season).
Add to that guys like O'Donnell, Balatoni, Forbes and Sinclair who only have one or two seasons behind them. Far too early to say that any of these guys won't make it in the big league, especially when you look at the thread bumped today about Chris Erskine.
The difference between this team and others to be promoted is that there's every reason to think that the players who made up this team could get better and better. I hope we keep as many together as possible.
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That is one of the best things I've read on the forum in a while.
Why thank you Sir
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I suppose part of my thinking is if the club (United) is behind this, and the promotion bonus is a counter claim tactic, then they really are hanging McNamara's reputation out to dry for their own benefit. Virtually all football fans, including many of United's, see this as a greedy, money grabbing act on McNamara's part. If he's been put up to it, even pressured into it, then it doesn't say much for them as employers.
Remember Chris, you can always come home if you don't like it!
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Brian May?
Now that would be some signing! A real breakthru, in fact.
Beastie McAdam... The return!
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Don't see what the fuss is about. Season's over. Chris Erskine is now a big diddy.
(Still love him really)
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Well, you might see it as him having "little option", but I feel he could've stood firm and treated us, his employers, with more respect than he has done. His decision to resign will undoubtedly - in my mind - have been on the advice of Dundee United, but he could've chose not to. Out of respect for us. His decision shows how little he thought of us though. He signed a contract which was specifically drawn up to get us more compensation, and then ditched us meaning we've received nothing. I take on board your insistence that Dundee Utd will be pulling strings, but McNamara is far from blameless.
To be honest I don't disagree. He's not blameless and as I said, I'm all in favour of the general slagging he's taken from our support. Just think it can go a bit far.
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May's contract with Saints expires in June according to Sky Sports. He scored a lot of league goals in a mediocre team - more than Doolan and Craig together.
I think you have to put that in context. Doolan and Craig virtually never played together, and scored about 30 goals between them. That means we got 30 goals this season from a single position (our number 9, main striker). Effectively Doolan and Craig's combined record is comparable to and as impressive as Stevie May's.
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Dundee United will of course pay the fee if it's decided a fee needs to be paid, but McNamara has made a lot of significant choices in this matter and should bear the brunt of our anger. He was OUR manager, and he's treating us like total scum.
I don't get it. If it's Dundee United who should pay the fee then they must be pulling the strings, so why's McNamara the main villain? Even the bonus dispute, most people seem to see that as a counter claim against our main compensation, so is the club behind that too? The way I see it there are two possibilities:
A - DUFC are behind he whole thing, pulling McNamara's strings and he has little option,
B - DUFC have left McNamara to his own devices and he's been left to fight against a significant payment which his club should have been willing to pay.
Either way, it's the club that seems to be the main problem. It also wasn't McNamara who released the picture of Erskine and Paton signing pre-contracts (I assume). So my view is that while it's easy, and more fun, to blame McNamara, we shouldn't go overboard with the personal attacks and we should save the worst of our anger for the second most despicable club in the top tier of Scottish football.
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Dearie me. Personal stuff going a bit far?
Just playing devil's advocate here... I've never heard before of a situation where a manager has left and it is he himself who is liable for the compensation. I've heard the stories about Dundee United originally offering it in various payments, and the fact that this wasn't accepted effectively forcing McNamara to resign if he wanted to take the United job. If this is the case then didn't McNamara do United a massive favour? Wouldn't you expect them to cover him for that, rather than leaving him to fight a personal battle? £80,000 is a very large sum for any individual, regardless of football background etc.
What I'm saying is that regardless of the legal mechanisms, it seems to me that Dundee United the club are the party here who are acting unreasonably, putting their new manager in a difficult position and denying Thistle the money we're due.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the Who TF is McNamara, I've gone right off him, thought he acted poorly in the transfers etc etc. I just don't think we should take it to a point that is nasty and vindictive. It's ugly, it makes Thistle look bad, and I also think that DUFC should be our main target.
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When Gerry scored I remember running all he way down the steps to the bottom of the shed, and then all the way back. Policeman wasn't happy with me. Probably a h*n.
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The problem with the SPL consisting of only 10 teams next season would be that they need an 11-1 majority for it to happen!!!!
Everyone but st mirren? Dundee would vote for it. It's concerned me since the SFL proposals fell through.
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To be fair, we probably would be if we hadn't just won the league
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I'm from just round the corner croftfoot originally so a wee bit posher
I'm a youthworker and the young'uns are a mixed bag as much as i remember when i was a kid, but i don't think my anecdotal experiences in my job puts me in a position to make judgements about general trends in society.
The best evidence would be sociological evidence i would think.
It don't think people say stuff like this on old firm forums.
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The most unanimous rejection of a post in the history of forums?
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Or maybe there's a certain amount of wallopers who follow every team. Maybe there's more of them in green and blue because there's far more of them than anyone else.
And maybe Thistle fans just love being sanctimonious towards our city neighbours.
Aw come on! I can't stand (or spell ) hypocracy, but you can't compare a couple of pitch invasions, almost entirely innocent but with the odd eejit thrown in, with what appears to be going on tonight. It's not the same thing and to suggest that it is is just wrong.
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Get these scum identified. Surely the police had cameras on them.
As always, just the small minority spoiling it for the "decent fans". Aye right.
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Not according to one of our coaches
May be the home of partick thistle... But its also the home of Glasgow Celtics u20s just saying.
To be fair the rest of his comments are pretty sound. Met him on the subway once, seemed a decent guy.
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Having read it back, there hasn't actually been that much crazy talk. Maybe just a wee bit. Anyway, I've said my piece.
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A lot of crazy talk on here. We've just won the first division quite comfortably with an incredibly young team. They've earned the step up and a chance to prove themselves. They also seem to have built an incredible team spirit. Not saying we won't have to do a wee bit of strengthening, and maybe not everyone in the squad is capable, but the solid core of the first team has to stay if possible, and I can't believe that any Thistle fan would be wanting to break this team up.
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I am genuinely shocked. I don't like the old firm but to be honest I really don't think I appreciated how genuinely DIFFERENT they are from the rest of us. This is a disgrace. And if the press don't report it then they will be complicit in this disgrace.
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Gnomin' in the gloamin', on the bonny bing of, eh, Firhill
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What is this Glasgow Cup? We're we in it?
Chris Erskine And The Season Ahead
in Main Jags forum
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Agree with virtually all of this. Erskine would have been my POTY but Bannigan and Muirhead would have been good shouts and are the most likely to go on to big careers, in my opinion. Having said that, Balatoni was in a group who I would accept and not grudge as POTY. We've been pretty consistent and impressive throughout the team and big Conrad's been a key player. Agree with others that in such an even team his personality has shone through and is probably what edged it.