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2 hours ago, Yellow & Redneck said:
One of the main reasons Sneddon hasn't improved can be summed up by one simple question: what the hell does Kenny Arthur know about being a good goalkeeper? That's more jobs for the boys pish right there. Paul Gallacher was a great coach and even better player. Funnily enough, under his direction, Scott Fox played some of the best football of his entire career.
I wouldn't class this season as a rebuild. A rebuild insinuates that a core or spine already exists, and it's a case of trying to add and figure out what works. This season's recruitment has been a hodgepodge of English League 2 and permanently injured pish! Very similar to Archibald's time. Take a punt on whatever rubbish an agent is trying to offload. There seems to be no coherent direction or strategy that underpins what we are building for long term. As a result we have an unbelievably unbalanced squad in terms of depth and style.
Similar to Archibald, Doolan is still almost completely dependent on signings made by the previous manager (Graham, Lawless, McMillan, Milne). However, just like almost every manager other than Caldwell, he is still overly loyal to certain player(s) who are well and truly past their best
So what would you do differently, given the known financial position and remember what transpired a mere few months ago? Doolan has had one transfer window and clearly his options were limited. If they weren't we would have held on to the four key players who left! I'd agree with you that the team are not living up to the pre season expectations, but that's football. I'm not sure it is a factor but I suspect what happened in the play offs continues to have a mental impact on those players that remain. They are human after all.... Hopefully if we go on a strong run that confidence and performance level may return. There remains a long long way to go.
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36 minutes ago, Third Lanark said:
Williams is at very best average but mostly mediocre.
Honestly are we not looking at challenging for promotion- too many fans happy with average. Let’s sign mediocre or average players on 2 year deals in the hope they might eventually come good.
or injury prone players like this Motherwell guys.
you know the way things are going I can see us offering the completely average Sneddon a 4 year deal to take him to a testimonial despite Mitchell being better. Much as we have given Bannigan a 2 year deal which is questionable to say the least we will do it the same old cuddly toy way with Sneddon as well
Same with this attitude about this season being about rebuilding- nope we were promised we would be challenging (we are at present). But why on earth would you just want to see a season of rebuilding and not challenging. Can’t see fans of other teams happy with that
Nobody wants to see us just rebuilding, but I think most fans have pragmatism about challenging Dundee United for the title. It's been laid bare over the last week in particular that we are simply not good enough to finish first. The question is even if we make the play offs, can we improve enough to make our way through them ( not looking good at the moment but who knows in 7 months time ) I don't think we are deliberately trying to sign mediocre players.... ( agree we have ) and it's not clear at all that Mitchell is better than sneddon.
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Watched the last 20 mins on stream ( not the best )....but we looked god awful.
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47 minutes ago, javeajag said:
That could literally describe every thistle manger in every season …. It goes with the job.
on Saturday we started with : sneddon, Milne, muirhead, Graham, lawless , bannigan , Fitzpatrick which is 7 out of 11 and if MacMillan had been fit that would have been 8 out of 11.
thats not a new team that’s 3/4 changes the same as every other team in the league.
The key issue is the players we lost we were unlikely to replace like for like. So it's not that simple. My expectation remains the play offs and if we achieve that it will be viewed as a success by most.
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1 hour ago, laukat said:
I wish I could move away from Bannigan's mistakes but they just seem to get worse. I have no desire to pick on any player but the guy is so far off what we need that its dragging the rest of the team down.
An example was yesterday's first goal. You can see in the aftermath that Muirhead and I think Lawless are having a go at Fitzpatrick. Fitzpatrick was meant to be at the halfway line as our outball so Fitzpatrick got blamed for someone else's mistake (if you look back at my posts there have been times when I've criticised Fitzpatrick defensively so I'm not protecting him)
At the corner kick Dundee United put their big men and strikers in around the 6 yard box. That meant Gallgher, Holt, Moult, Watt and I think McMann? we deployed Muirhead, Graham, Jamieson, Ngwenya, Milne and McInroy to deal with that which made sense. At the edge of the box Lawless is picking up Fotheringham to stop the short corner, Robinson has Docherty but no-one has Sibbald, where's our other defensive midfielder if McInroy is in the 6 yard box?
At that moment you look at who Bannigan has and he has no-one. He's standing on the edge of the 18 yard box in front of the corner kick taker as if he's making a wall to defend a free-kick. What's he doing? There's very little danger of a quick corner or short corner and as far as I know the Dundee United taker isn't that good at corners that we need a defensive wall?
If you look at the corner kick its not a cross, its a pass from the taker to Sibbald. Holt also does a cute bit of obstruction to slow Jamieson and Muirhead form getting out.
Muirhead sees the problem as does Lawless, thats why they ask Fitzpatrick to fill the gap. At least 3 Dundee United players recognise the opprotunity (corner kick taker, Sibbald, Holt). I actually think it was a pre-planned move by Dundee United. They new if they committed enough bodies into the box that one would go free as we don't have anyone in midfield able to sense danger and re-organise like Docherty could.
Agree, when we lose the ball we don't look like a team that knows how to plug gaps, sense danger or re-organise quickly enough. Docherty was by no means exceptional but Holt's second goal probably doesn't get conceded with someone like him in midfield as he would either have fouled Holt or started shouting orders to get his defence in shape. Instead McInroy tries to get a tackle in on 2 Dundee Utd players but doesn't touch either and no-one takes charge thereafter. Having seen it again I don't think Holt's strike was as good as I first thought, I think Sneddon could have done better.
We lost 5 goals..... You have focused on one, where bannigans involvement is non existent or minimal as others have stated. Why not analyse all the goals and spread the blame? You are now suggesting that solely bannigan is bringing the entire teams performance down, which doesn't carry much water. The entire team were flat/awful/second best, so to scapegoat one player ( again ) misses the point why we lost. For the record I think bannigan and many others deserve dropping, but the problem is we have little options at the moment ( for a variety of reasons). Maybe worth making a point why bannigan is in the team. It's essentially to link the play and give it to others with more attacking skill etc. I'd describe him as a water carrier. A guy who keeps it simple. Most teams have a player like that. Dare I say ( on a slightly higher plane ) watch how Billy Gilmour plays for Brighton and Scotland. Its all very simple, but designed to keep possession. He rarely scores or has many killer passes ( sound familiar ) but he's essential to the team. Finally, a dose of reality. We have lost holt, docherty, Turner and tiffoney. Mcmillan injured and milne off form. That's 6 out of 11 of the team last year. No squad is easily going to bounce back from that, especially one with a very inexperienced manager.
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Kind of echo above. Also fitzpatrick pointed at sibbald but....did nothing. Worth mentioning that it was mcenroy who gave away the ball which led to the corner. If that would have been bannigan I suspect you may have commented on that....to be fair bannigan should have saved the holt thunderbolt.
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The reality of what the game showed us ( and the one against Arbroath ) is that we won't be challenging for the title. I think Dundee United are far superior to Dundee of last year. So realistically we were unlikely to challenge as this team is not as good as 22/23. Given the financial state of flux its play offs at best. As for Doolans signings to date the jury is well and truly out. For a new manager not exactly surprising, but yes he will and should be judged. If we can get mcmillan back soon and milne gets back to last year's form that would make a huge difference. Last point some posters suggested that some players were passable yesterday ( strong drink must have been taken ) but this was a collective failure all over the park ( bar lawless maybe for some of first half ). Last point. I hope Muirhead has a large fine coming for getting sent off in his historically stupid manner. Utterly pointless.
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21 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said:
Surely the £500k Investment is going to allow us to recruit decent players for the second half of the Season ?
Let's hope so. If only Kevin holt was available.....
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Abject performance all over park. If I wasn't in hospitality I would have left....
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On 10/15/2023 at 12:40 PM, Jaggernaut said:
Anybody think that the Herald would have published that story if the player had not played for one or other of the erse cheeks?
That thought never even entered my mind.
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3 hours ago, The Legend Blows said:
This whole affair absolutely stinks and as far as I can tell TJF who we'd hoped might bring some sanity and clarity to the running of PTFC are powerless puppets in this whole shoddy affair.
I'll say it again, but does anybody know what the funk is going on here?
What individual or individuals are wielding all the power here and delivering this laughable excuse for fan ownership?
Wee Jacqui must be pishing herself laughing at the Thistle fans and the great new dawn we're having after her departure.
I think you will find that it's thistle fans laughing/cringing at your inane posts. Stop being lazy. Read the posts above and then string some sensible words together. No harm in a counter argument but at least try and make it a tad cohesive. Thank you.
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5 hours ago, javeajag said:
Who is doing the Board evaluation ?
Ah the sweet smell of a meaningless task. I suspect that very few fans would be remotely interested. Anyway we have social media who evaluate every tiny bit of what goes on in PTFC. I give you flaggate as a living example of that.....
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Good point going into break. Beat Dundee United and we are very much in the mix.
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5 minutes ago, javeajag said:
Can you prove to me the majority of thistle fans accept the rationale …..couple of facts maybe ? There is a simple way to,prove this let tjf consult with its members……then I’m happy.
But let’s clarify you disagree with the club statement today that they acknowledge this should have been consulted with fans ?
The club statement and indeed the TJF one I'm in broad agreement with. With regard to consultation on the removal of the chair, I see that as an internal matter, albeit I'm saddened on the background on why it occurred. On the investment issue it appears to be a no brainer to me that the Club need the 500k to stabilise the financial shambles the previous board left us. Therefore what is there to consult on ? What options did the club viablly have? I doubt there is a massive queue of investors out there.
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16 minutes ago, javeajag said:
That’s an interpretation … clearly they will manage that up their advantage why wouldn’t they ? So get some of your money bank and kept the trust shareholding at 74% …. Sweet
by the way since your on the TJF board is this something deemed worthy of consultation with TJF members of not ?
Your last line....should read " consultation with me " as the overwhelming majority of thistle fans/TJF members accept the rationale given on when it is appropriate to consult or not. What next? You'll be demanding full disclosure on emails, what's app messages and recordings of all meetings.
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13 minutes ago, javeajag said:
Aren’t you a little curious as to why everything to do with the club is always apparently tied up in legal issues so no one knows anything ( except those who do and that’s not you or me …..)
We get to know more than enough. If you really want to know everything ( you have been down this rabbit hole before) get yourself on the board/TJF board member and live that reality. And perhaps think about what our TJF reps have had to deal with.
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2 minutes ago, javeajag said:
Great …..so explain to me why the chairman was sacked ?
It's a legal issue at the moment with more to come. We all have to wait....
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8 hours ago, The Legend Blows said:
Looks like I'll be holding off signing up to the TJF for the time being. Just when we thought we'd turned a corner with the happy clappy media output and intro videos. Complete and utter embarrassing funking shambles.
Based on nothing other than this thread and know nothing about the guy but looks like a wee cleak/ptfc cabal has ousted a guy that wanted the best for the club.
Are we definitely sure Jacqui Low has left the club?
Anyone know how much a Maryhill Juniors ST is?
Whatever happened was between the board members and the TJF were acting essentially as intermediaries ( read their statement ). I think you have made multiple statements about " holding off from TJF"....each one unsurprising.
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As always a professional and comprehensive statement from TJF. The sort of insight we would never get under previous board regimes.
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51 minutes ago, Fawlty Towers said:
Looks from this that we are in for a period of "he said, she said"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=7444376185590033&set=p.7444376185590033&type=3
Sounds like an unholy mess. Boardroom shenanigans of the highest order it appears. Ultimately not clear why mccreevy was removed, but I guess we'll get the truth very soon. Clearly TJF seem pleased with the investment and I can only hope for the right reasons.
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Or Somner n Craig!
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28 minutes ago, javeajag said:
They had several chances to score and should have that was down to them not us
They didn't score. I'd rather enjoy the win, the fact it was actually a cracking open game, with plenty of chances at both ends. As others have said I think we may be the league top scorers. Will it be good enough to challenge for the league....who knows, but I'm being entertained that's for sure.
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7 minutes ago, javeajag said:
We won’t win the league unless our defending improves .
Our defending was decent today. We didn't concede and I thought Muirhead and neilson looked solid. Not quite sure what you are expecting but in most games the opposition will have a few chances.
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Night and day from last week. We could have scored a lot more. Accept they had a few chances but we always looked the more dangerous side. Onwards.
Thistle v Ayr
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Yep. 3rd place.