Woodstock Jag
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Si Ferry is one of the most irritating people in Scottish football. That accent is an absolute abomination.
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1 hour ago, Lambies Lost Doo said:
Anyway back to the evening event please.
Well-attended (must have been just shy of 300 folk in the room my guess?) - obviously a little more subdued than it would otherwise have been after a defeat. Logan Chalmers and Dan O'Reilly picking up the men's team awards across the piece (apart from the goals and young player ones). Good representation from the women's team as well.
Hilton is a good venue for that sort of thing. The texture of the beef for the main course was a little on the mushy side. A good soup and a nice enough dessert.
The prospect of the marquee auction prize being a four-ball at Trump Turnberry clearly didn't appeal that well to the room!
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4 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said:
For starters the Board are agreed at a secret Meeting with TJF Board / Trustees without any justification as to why they simply re-elect the same people
No they aren't!
Two members of the board (Allan McGraw and Alistair Gray) are directly elected by an eligible electorate of over 2,500 beneficiaries. If you don't like them, simply "be a season ticket holder" or "be a TJF member" or "be a Jags Trust member" and vote for someone else ahead of the next AGM.
One member of the board (Donald McClymont) has an automatic right to be on the board by virtue of his Class C shareholding. It would be pretty pointless to have a "secret meeting" about him wouldn't it?
One member of the board (Stuart Callison) was selected by a democratically elected fans board, currently representing over 1,800 Thistle fans. That board who fans can replace by becoming TJF members from just £1 per month, and voting in TJF elections and/or standing as TJF candidates.
- And of course, TJF ran a consultation which the entire fanbase was allowed to take part in on whether that arrangement should continue or be superseded by something else. More on that to follow very soon.
One member of the Club Board (Elliot Gilmour) was recommended for appointment by the Club Board in late December 2023. He notably was not simply appointed out-of-turn but presented for appointment by the shareholders at an AGM. The Trustees decided to vote in favour of his appointment after the Club Board set out its rationale for appointing him. There was nothing "secretive" about it.
Two members of the Club Board (Richard Beastall and Caroline Mackie) were first appointed before TJF was even formally connected with the PTFC Trust. They have been twice re-appointed by the shareholders, including, as I distinctly recall, by you personally at the most recent AGM.
The final Club Board member, Grant Stupart, is someone who was appointed shortly after TJF and the Trustees publicly called for a strengthening of the Club Board's commercial expertise and capacity, and following the process set-out in the Club-Trust Agreement for Trustee approval of new Directors.
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2 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said:
Success has many parents - failure is an orphan
Knowledge is power. France is Bacon.
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1 minute ago, Jordanhill Jag said:
Where has anyone said there was nepotism ? For the record I don't believe there was on any level
Or is there any “ allegations”
This whole thing started with allegations made, shortly after the first round of interviews had taken place, that Levi was friends with Ian Baraclough (an allegation that has been flatly denied, and which no one has provided a shred of evidence to contradict) and that this meant he was favourite for the job. Don't act dumb.
1 minute ago, Jordanhill Jag said:but lets take the scenarios you cover
a)The chances of someone in Football putting out that they are the preferred candidate are unlikely -as it is more than likely to have the opposite affect- a candidate maybe - preferred choice ? Highly Unlikely
Yet it literally happened with Ian McCall, who announced on BBC Radio Scotland that he was a candidate and had been given an interview.
1 minute ago, Jordanhill Jag said:b) someone coming out of Firhill is unlikely to be named as the preferred candidate simply on site -especially one that hardly anyone knows ( or would even recognise )
There were literally posts on social media about Ian McCall standing outside the stadium in a suit with a folder.
Ian Baraclough isn't an obscure person to Scottish football. He was the manager of a top flight football club for almost a year and was best known for, very publicly, thumping Rangers Football Club in a relegation play-off fixture 6-1.
1 minute ago, Jordanhill Jag said:c) All we know is that the person was put out there -as the person likely to get the job before the shortlist ( and lets face it not an obvious choice ) and got the job
There were literal press articles describing Ian McCall as the favourite for the job after the first round of interviews.
The first mention of Ian Baraclough on this forum since 23rd September 2015?
From Third Lanark. At 7:28pm. Two hours and fourteen minutes after Scott Burns is confidently declaring for the Daily Record that Ian McCall is "in line for an emotional return".
If you want to know where "all this came from" you probably want to start with the source(s) that misinformed Third Lanark that Levi was mates with Baraclough? No?
Logic suggests that the person who passed that information to him must have, at the very least, known that Ian Baraclough was a candidate and had been through the first round of interviews. That means that this person, whoever they are, must have (a) seen Baraclough at the ground and embellished this into "preferred candidate" (b) been told by someone else that he was one of the candidates in the running or (c) been involved in the recruitment process.
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3 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said:
What is confusing however is that someone who lets face who is pretty much unknown and not mentioned as a potential candidate when the role was announced - suddenly after the first round interviews was being mentioned as the odds on favourite - prior to any shortlist or second round interviews ( out of no where ) ignoring any links to the Club or any employees - which you and others have covered in detail
The simple fact that he was stated as odds on favourite ( accurately ) circa 3 weeks before he got the job & before second round interviews took place is well - extremely odd
Now that wasn't a guess - as he hadn't been mentioned as a potential candidate pre the initial interviews - and he had no obvious link to the Club or Scottish Football - he was an out of the Blue Name
Now this is a matter of fact - not a conspiracy
various people are good at shutting down anyone who may ask awkward questions - however
How was it that three weeks ago Ian Barraclough - was being mentioned as the odds on favourite for Sporting Director Role - with frightening accuracy ?
But no one finds that strange ?
This is really boring.
There are lots of reasons why a candidate might have been outed.
(a) a candidate/their agent might have outed themselves or revealed it to one of their mates (as literally happened with one of the other candidates, who announced it on national radio)
(b) a candidate might have been spotted at Firhill when attending their first round interview and this has set the rumour mill running (whether innocently or for malicious reasons)
(c) someone involved in or privy to the interview process, who should know better, might have leaked information
If the concern is that (c) shouldn’t be happening I think everyone can agree.
But if the allegation is one of nepotism, people should present their evidence or bore off.
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For what it's worth, the four on the Club's shortlist are the four who received the most votes on TJF's one (with Ashcroft 5th).
For obvious reasons, we restricted eligibility on TJF's one to current first-team players with at least (at the time) 10 appearances.
I'm not sure Myles Roberts, Harry Milne, Scott Robinson or Charlie Sayers will be rushing to the Hilton on Saturday evening.
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6 hours ago, ChiThistle said:
Wasn’t sure how to interpret this sentence from the club statement: I met the General Manager Levi Gill and some of the Directors for the first time during the application process
Wasnt clear whether it’s Levi Gill AND the directors he’s meeting for the first time or just the directors. Now I’m confused about how closely he worked with Levi in a prior role.
He didn't work with Levi in a prior role.
He met Levi for the first time at the first of his two interviews.
As stated by Levi in correspondence to Third Lanark, which has been well documented here and elsewhere.
In the interview process he also met "some of the directors" for the first time.
Not all of the directors were involved in the recruitment process.
Three of them were involved in the interviews (Richard Beastall, Elliot Gilmour and Donald McClymont).
So, logically, Ian Baraclough has still to meet the other directors on the Club Board.
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1 hour ago, jagfox said:
I find archive.ph more reliable these days.
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Jim, I think you need to buy a beach towel.
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Boom boom boom boom
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8 minutes ago, Aliballibee said:
That would be the end of journalism as we know it!
Bonus!
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Unnamed sources should be banned.
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2 hours ago, Fearchar said:
Looking around the JHS many came prepared for a low, bright sun by wearing caps with brims. Why don't our goalkeepers at Firhill all do this? Surely a cap with a brim should be part of their kit. In fact, the same applies to officials and visiting goalkeeper, although they at least have the excuse of not facing these conditions predictably.
This Athletic article is well worth a read on exactly this question!
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3 minutes ago, Jagtastic said:
Kudos to the young team for “Ayr are falling apart again” … still in my head and I bet still in the heads of Ayr fans there today 👌
Originated, if I’m not mistaken, at Somerset in the May 2023 play-off 2nd leg.
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Really confident and assured performance today. Two well worked and taken goals. Energy levels kept up reasonably well.
Chalmers is really coming onto a game.
Deserved shout outs as well to Jakubiak and Fitzy off the bench. Doing hard yards to prevent us from having to drop as deep as we have been prone to.
Enjoy your weekends all! 🔴🟡🔴
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As others have said, the harrying from Crawford to force the error for the first was really pleasing to see, but Chalmers still had a lot of work to do to get the shot away as well as he did.
Really pleasing performance. You can see the confidence returning to some key figures in recent games.
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Four Foundation match-worn signed shirts from the Women's team's victory against Dundee United are going up for auction on TJF's shop. They're not the mud-stained classics served-up by the men's team but that's the synthetic surface at Petershill for you!
The funds raised from this will be over and above TJF's £5,000 pledge for the 2024-25 season. Members can place a bid here - the auctions go live at 8am today and close Sunday 23rd March at 11pm GMT:
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Boing Boing.
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3 hours ago, Duke Gekantawa said:
Whilst I've given up on any change in the top tier for the reasons you've given, I can't for the life of me work out why the divisions below the top are these stupidly small leagues. Why not two leagues of 16 (or even 18 if clubs want to keep the same number of games) below the top league? Is it really just the relativley small dilution of prize money?
If I had to guess, I'd say it's because the bottom of the Championship is the cut-off at which it's feasible to sustain full-time football. Full-time teams, many of whom are only really potentially sustainable if they're competitive for promotion to the Premiership, aren't about to sign-off on a league format that risks leaking significant amounts of prize revenue (relative to Championship finances) to part-time clubs that have other advantages over them in their business models.
For existing full-time Championship teams not to be materially disadvantaged by a bigger league (ignoring the likely negative impact on gates for the larger teams), you'd need to make sure that the prize-money for finishing 16th was roughly no worse than it currently is for 10th place, and that the drop-off in the event of relegation to League 1 was smaller.
In practice, that means generating at least £1 million extra revenue for prize money for the non-Premier leagues, probably more (that's over 20% more than they get now).
And because of the way that the SPFL splits prize-money (fixed percentages by league placing) you'd either need to generate another £4-5 million for the Premiership Clubs at the same time, or you'd have to get them to agree to a different split than currently exists.
If you're generating £6 million more in TV money and sponsorship, it's probably being driven by the Premiership being a more marketable product, rather than the Championship becoming so, so top flight Clubs are then not likely to be generous in agreeing to a change in the pot split.
This revenue distribution structure means that, in reality, any questions about reconstruction of the lower leagues has to be cost-neutral, or requires the Premiership to willingly reduce its claim on the pot. The latter is never going to happen. And the former has losers. Mainly those losers will be teams that are (just) maintaining full-time football at the moment.
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Strong argument that this is the best half of football we’ve played all season.
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TJF statement on the matter below:
On Sunday 1st December a formal complaint was made to both the Club Board and TJF’s Board about an historic social media “retweet” from February 2024 made by Stuart Callison, relating to the Israel-Palestine conflict. The complaint demanded Stuart’s immediate removal from both boards, alleging racism and antisemitism.
The retweet in question was made by Stuart in a purely personal capacity. It is not the role of TJF to censure or censor the free expression of individuals, even our directors, on matters of conscience or to adjudicate on the validity of competing political claims, particularly in the absence of evidence of discriminatory intent.
As the Club Board has already indicated in its full statement to the JT, it took appropriate legal and professional advice on the matter, and conducted an internal investigation, which found no breach of directors duties.
Separately, TJF investigated whether the retweet contravened its own Social Media Policy. No breach was found on the basis of representations made.
TJF’s board unanimously stands by the conclusion of its investigation that there was no racist or discriminatory intent behind Stuart’s social media content and that no directors’ duties were breached. Had we concluded otherwise, we would have asked him to resign. We would note that, in email exchanges with Stuart asking for comment on the story, the journalist at the Jewish Telegraph himself stated that the content in question “is not antisemitic”.
An offer to engage in independent mediation with the complainant was made by both the Club and TJF, but this was declined.
We do recognise that social media is often a highly imperfect platform on which to debate these complex and emotionally charged political issues, especially for those assuming leadership roles at Partick Thistle.
At TJF’s December 2024 board meeting, all were reminded of the need for circumspection if commenting publicly on sensitive political issues, so as to minimise the risk of misinterpretation or offence, or of misattribution of an individual’s views as being those held by either TJF or the Club.
We want to ensure that Firhill is a place where all fans, regardless of background, feel welcome, and where everyone focuses on what we have in common as Jags fans, rather than on political disagreements.
There will be no further comment from TJF on this matter.
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I’ve had my fair share of run ins with JJ but I think the Ghost has probably crossed the line here.
We’re all a bit wound up at the moment because things on and off the park aren’t going as we’d like them to. But worth just remembering we are all first and foremost Jags fans who want the club to prosper.
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Dunfermline Athletic ⚪️⚫️ Vs Partick Thistle 🟡🔴
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I think Reid being back will help. Dan put a lot of effort in last weekend but the defence felt really unbalanced with him out at left back.