East Kent Jag II
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Looks like the Cup Final has been changed to the Sunday 24th March. Saw this on Thistle site on X, (A notification from Rangers site, with tickets for sale on the new date!!) but I'm having issues with my permissions on my phone and tablet, so I can't reproduce.
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14 hours ago, CotterJag said:
Did anyone notice this on the tele yesterday?
A prank, mistype or just ignorance?
It reflects not only the BBC but the Scottish media's complete disregard for clubs other than The Glasgow Whingers and Glasgow Sellit.
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5 minutes ago, Lenziejag said:
I was reading the table as only the teams selected for the tv games get the tv money.
LJ is correct. Table info states tv money for teams involved in games chosen, with both teams receiving a payment.
Even so, big increase from the previous round in exit payment. Needless to say I'm looking forward to the Jags progressing in the tournament.
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1 hour ago, dl1971 said:
No thanks. Let's have a bit of ambition. Decent winnable tie and then get the financial rewards LATER in the cup.
I'm with the above. Lose in the 5th round and the exit award is £47,250, excluding tv cash.
Get to the 6th round, and the exit fee more than doubles to £102,000.
That sort of cash should make even JJ happy. 😇
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1 hour ago, Third Lanark said:
Excellent points.
I remember a good 20 years ago there were a bit of a promotion of the club at Glasgow Uni for instance when i attended. I was already a long term supporter by that point anyway but it was a good way of attracting potential new supporters.
Alas my uni days are long behind me so i have no idea if there is stil much promotion of the club at any of the cities Universities or colleges.
Completely agree with you as well about the toilet facilities etc too
The obvious way to promote the club at the 3 Glasgow universities would be a stall at the year start Freshers Week in September. Too late for this season, but good for the future.
Some support or interest in the universities' football teams (male and female) may also produce dividends.
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I had a look at this on YouTube, and the match did restart with an indirect free kick. Whatever the offence, why wait till the goal before indicating the issue? The "double tap" offence ( if that was the issue) occurred when the player dribbled towards goal - not after it was scored! Likewise for the timing of any other offence.
As Toyah would say " It's a mystery "
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WJ's original post on this event was that it was a good goal if it hadn't been for the referee assistant beckoning James Craigen away. Perfectly correct. But the assistant did shush the player away.
Let's look at the corner. Did the player who took the corner move the ball as outlined in law 17? Yes he must have. If not the dribbler took and played from the corner,and took more than one touch. Indirect free kick.
Was James Craigen permitted to intervene? In the circumstances outlined above, yes.
The goal was allowed. What law permitted the referee to change the decision? Law 5 outlines the referees' authority. Law 5.3 outlines the referee's power and duties. Law 5.3 defines " outside interference". It defines interference as " stops, suspends or abandons the match for any offences or because of outside interference e.g. if.....
I remember vividly my mentor Tiny Wharton telling me yonks ago that the laws of football are written to allow that most important intervention of common sense to be used. That flexibility hasn't changed, to my mind. The e.g. above is all-encompassing, not prescriptive.
Did waving James Craigen away trigger "outside interference " ? I believe that the referee thought so. If James Craigen hadn't gone to intercept the corner, the dribbler went on and the outcome was the goal, we would have no option other than to salute the goal. That didn't happen . The referee's powers in Rule 3 include "acts on the advice of other officials. " I believe that the assistant would have been happy if the ball had been blasted over the bar. He had the guts to acknowledge the mistake and brought about a fair outcome.
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Does this free up the compensation he was getting from us, and if so, will the cash set aside for that go towards a January transfer budget? Has he given back that company car, so he,won't be advertising Thistle in Byres Rd? 😄
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Free online match programme at the link below
http://queensparkfc.co.uk/match-programme-queens-park-v-partick-thistle-3/
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No Bottles or Bumbles, but I can find three
Ricky Little - 2008 - 09 season
Robert Little - back in 1895
Willie Whittle- from 1914- 1920.
Willie made more than 150 first team appearances for the Jags, and despite the times he lived in, lived to the magnificent age of 84!
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In the horrible event of Thistle ceasing to exist ( the previous board did, IMHO, make a good attempt at this) I too wouldn't support or even go and see another Scottish team.
I would still contribute to the Thistle Archive, because club or no club, that would continue to find new material, I'm sure.
I may go and watch local clubs in my area in the Southern Leagues, and Dover Athletic - but very occasionally.
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According to the BBC the Commissioner has listened to the strong opinion against the busses review, and has "shelved" the review meantime.
This may, though, return, when they actually do proper research. I trust Scottish Football will use the time this rubbish sits own the shelf to carry out their own review, and be prepared for the battle when it returns.
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45 minutes ago, Auld Jag said:
I understand that like a lot of things in life the disruptive minority spoil it for the majority who behave.I have found over the years that those that do over indulge either want to kill you or kiss you.
That's where you whip on that ever present balaclava 😉
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13 minutes ago, BowenBoys said:
Thanks, BB,
I hope they give the average number of busses per club in their response to the Commissioner. With the potential loss of revenue for home clubs and bus operators, at the very least a deminimis figure of , say, 5 busses takes out most of Scottish football- leaving you know who with the need to comply!
I suspect the Match Commander or whichever officer gets lumbered with this will be happy with that.
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3 hours ago, Norgethistle said:
The new proposal for bus travel to games will just put even more off attending
This consultation mirrors voluntary compliance with set out guidelines that have been in use in England for some time. Interestingly the English guidelines make it plain that non- compliance by coach operators will result in legislation being introduced to make mandatory rules. It may seem logical for the Government to extend these rules northwards, but apart from less than a handful of clubs, most football clubs in Scotland have single digit numbers of supporters buses. My first reaction was that this smacks of dog whistle politics at an election time, cheap for the Government, although I doubt that there will be any increase in police resources to operate the scheme. I do wonder if someone thought it a logical extension of what applies in England, without considering whether or not there is a problem with this in Scottish football.
I hope that the SPFL provides a robust reply, with the average number of busses per club, to demonstrate how stupid this idea is, and also makes it plain that at a stroke it will kill away support at Scottish matches, and will seriously affect small coach operators.
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Back in the distant past the Shed used to sing:-
"Aye, aye, aye aye
Niven is better than Yashin
Flanagan's better than Eusebio
We'll play the h*ns and we'll thrash them."
Sung to that most memorable of songs "Aye Aye Aye" by Count Owen and His Calypsonians. You can even listen to the magnificent Count Owen singing it on You Tube!
(His version - not ours.)
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LLB, £20 transferred to the same account as last year. (See my PM.) East Kent Jag ii used as reference.
Again, thanks for doing this. Any issues, give me a phone call, mobile number included in last year's exchanges.
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The official Morton site on Twitter has announced that Benny Rooney, our former player and manager has passed away.
RIP Benny.
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LLD, I'm in town early next week, & it would be a good opportunity for me to go to my bank and transfer the dosh to your preferred account. I remember last season you sent a PM to everyone with the details. Can you send that to me this weekend?
Thanks, & thanks for organising the sponsorship.
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Any of these players will be fine by me. I wish we could sponsor all three, but that's wishful thinking!
Happy to go with the majority verdict.
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I've been abroad for the past two weeks, with very little Internet & phone availability. So I'm in for £20.
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9 minutes ago, partickthedog said:
Nothing against your post. I keep thinking that I ought to be able to understand VAT, but I never can!
"VATis a simple tax." Anthony Barber, Chancellor of the Exchequer on April Fools Day 1973. 😄
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On 7/6/2023 at 4:20 PM, Lenziejag said:
Ok. The point was,as I said,that if the law is changed to make the whole donation vatable, that makes a huge difference to TJF’s ability to keep its commitment to the club.
The bulk of the payment is a freely given donation, for no return. It is outside the scope of the tax, as there is no supply of goods, or services for a consideration. It would not make any difference to the sum the club would receive- only where the cash comes from. The current standard rate is 20%, so 20/ 120 would be the VAT output tax payable by TJF. The club use the cash ( less TJF output tax) for making taxable supplies (VAT being chargeable on the club's income from entrance charges, etc) so the VAT charged by TJF is recoverable by the club as PTFC input tax, as the TJF cash is fully used by the club in the furtherance of making taxable supplies, as outlined above. Any (extremely unlikely) change to the Exempt Schedule to the VAT Act wouldn’t in reality make any difference. Indeed TJF would be in the position of recovering VAT on their "standard rated" membership fees. There would of course be more complex bookkeeping needed by TJF. Unlikely to happen. The charity sector is very good in lobbying for the Exempt Schedule not to change.
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2 hours ago, Bryza said:
Thats my daughter, dad, Uncle and myself renewed for another season and got my wee 5 year old nephew his first season ticket.
Was told this afternoon that was 1333 sold so far.5 year old with a season ticket to follow the Jags. What a wonderful beautiful thing! Well done Bryza.
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