Dick Dastardly

And that is £50k more than the consortium are likely to put in. They will be looking to make a profit... ie take money out

I agree with a lot of what you say and it covers many of my concerns, however it doesn’t explain “why Thistle”. If the plan was simply loaning Barnsley kids (which I believe started as speculation on this forum and never confirmed) or simply lumping us with debt then there must be easier clubs on the continent which don’t require the same dual ownership scrutiny and probably play at a higher standard. To my mind there has to be something else behind it, but in the absence of any hard facts, I am clueless, and very concerned, as to what that might be.

Probably a coincidence that Zanatta is the only one who didn’t play for Rangers

The no bank facilities is a myth. Of course we don’t pay our players and staff in cash, or our suppliers. What we don’t have is a loan facility. One if the decisions that the new board (from whoever takes over) is to decide if one is needed and then to negotiate with the bank on the terms. Remember also that there will also be the reserves (held in a bank, not a tin in the office) which we know to be around £350k.

I'm not sure they are being held to different standards. A TfE meeting is something that can be done, while the consortium would be a pointless excercise to even contemplate. Besides, TfE need to get the supporters on board. The consortium don't give a sfuff about the supporters, just the shareholders.

The Jacqui Low involvement is an interesting one. If she were to support TfE financially, like any other punter and offer herself for election to the board like any other member of TfE, are we saying that she would not be eligible ? I think it unlikely that she would get the required votes, but I can't see how she can be prevented from standing. It is therefore a very difficult question for TfE to answer regarding her involvement

You miss the point. You can’t even ask the consortium any questions

All good valid questions. Have you asked the same of the consortium ? Oh no ! You can’t

For me, the difference is that the Thistle community would remain in overall control. If we were to sell to outsiders, it would be the end of the club as we know it, and become a franchise for whoever has the next great idea. While that may be OK with the current consortium/splinter group, we have no say down the line of who takes over next, or after that. Actually, I am unhappy with either offer at a personal level. I have been outspoken about the English Premier League teams being taken over as billionaires play things and predicted that the smaller teams (like Bury and Bolton) would suffer, resulting in the inevitable casualties. It would be hypocritical of me to continue to support Thistle if they went down that route and with Weir now onboard with TFE, that becomes a big problem for me.

But is that not exactly what we would be letting the consortium do. This is my issue with it. We would have lost all control and there is no possible governance of their actions once they take over. They will have full and unilateral control

For my money, we have zero control over the future of our club if the consortium take over. With the right governance in place (and that is a big caveat) the directors will be answerable to fans in some form. There is little info from either side to judge future plans. I just don't like handing everything over to people we don't know and had never heard of Partick Thistle until 6 months ago.

Only pearls of wisdom

I don't want to call on the Supreme Court again, they have been a bit busy this week, but you are asking a lot of us to believe that you don't have an agenda. Reading your posts you would think the sun shines out of David Beatties arse and any alternatives are the devil incarnate

What was ? The Times article didn’t say anything new. Like allyo, I’ll remain uneasy until we know what the plans are

Aye but Ally MacLeod is going to win us the World Cup

Proof, if needed, that I know **** all ! Go away for a week without wifi and it all kicks off.

Am I the only one here who is not a McCall fan ? Always something slightly dodgy about him. That said, he and the club will get my backing.

I've heard or seen nothing to say that the buyout is not still on and I'm sure that we would have heard about a plan B as I don't believe that Beattie wants this job long term. I actually think that Caldwells job is relatively safe while the takeover is still on the table. That might change if there were mass demonstrations by the fans, but I don't think we have that sort of supporter base. Earlier today, someone used the word apathy which kind of sums up the situation.

But is he bothered about the fans, or more interested in what the prospective buyers might think. I really doubt that he would want to lumber them with paying off another manager unless it is an absolute last resort for the club (not the fans)

Sounds like you know something ? What's the rumour ?

It won't be before. The U19s will be given the best conditions. More likely moved to midweek evening

Without knowing anything, we will know when it is dead, but I don't expect to know anything anytime soon.

It could be worse. Imagine if we were Scotland supporters ! Oh ... wait a minute !

I doubt Jordan would come to us under any circumstances. Would you go back to an employer who sacked you ?

And Arbroath win on pens ! Can we have Wrexham next please