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  7. denismcquadeno.eleven

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    4 hours ago, Barney Rubble said:

    Why is your handle in lower case, yet every subject you start on this forum is in upper case?

    Not every one Barney boy …

    there’s quite a few where the keyboard diarrhoea-ist forgot his upper case mantra :whistling:

  8. Big Announcement

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    2 hours ago, sandy said:

    All, just be grateful that  @Garscube Road End @sandy and @gianlucatoni were not standing in the TJF election. 

    I'm afraid that I don't have the requisite business experience to join the cultured elite on the ballot paper and I don't suffer fools gladly - unless you want a few lectures about subject matter ranging from Ohms' Law to the Schwartzchild radius of black hole (still awake?) - tried teaching a fair few Jags fans ra fizziks including such luminaries like big Brian Welsh & hairbrained Alan Murray - with the emphasis on tried! - they weren't the most luminous stars in the universe if u know wot I mean sandy boy :thumbsup2:

  10. New Season, new kit

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    23 minutes ago, sandy said:

    Not at all, sir. The impropriety was all mine.  As your younger cousin twice removed I know how hard the burden of age must weigh heavily on your shoulders 

    cheeky auld bastirt - time for a cup of ovaltine & bed up at happy valley retirement home - if you're on the luxe package you might even get a new nappy tonight :tongue2:

  11. New Season, new kit

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    2 minutes ago, sandy said:

    Had to Google that, like the answer to last nights trivia question. The problem is I found Ronaldo, Zlatan & Suarez so couldn’t unknow. So went to bed in a panic, got up and some clever sod had guessed right ;) 

    Had to be a top scorer big chap so picked the obvious 2 (Kane was in the wings) ... I do hope you are not suggesting any impropriety on my part :sign: - didn't have a scooby about the keeper - before my time y'know.

  15. Big Announcement

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    Nothing tawdry about it big chap - it’s all pure legit above board!

    Monday 23rd May, 2022 at 11:39am The Club has today received the following update from Three Black Cats in relation to fan ownership, which it has been asked to share with fans:

    Dear Jacqui Low (@PTFC), I’d be really grateful if you/me (delete as appropriate) could stick out another statement on your/my (delete as appropriate) website to let the fans know of your/my  (delete as appropriate) intentions. As those pesky ones that wanted full disclosure of my/your  (delete as appropriate) finances are in a state of flux at the moment make sure to tell them in that statement of yours/mine (delete as appropriate) that the clock is ticking and will soon run out. Love your/my shoes, best wishes, Jacqui Low (@3BC).

     

  19. Ayr away Friday night.

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    39 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said:

    The initial provocation wasn't when the team went out for the second half.

    The initial provocation was at the end of the first half. Where the fan behaviour, while pretty cringe, was at the tame end of offensive.

    The video of the team emerging for the second half, where the three letter word beginning with H and the sectarian satsuma reference are uttered by one of the people off-camera, happened after Foster decided to go all Scrappy Doo at some sad acts hurling more general abuse.

    The sectarian nonsense is inexcusable.

    So is a footballer in his late 30s launching himself at a bunch of fans challenging them to a square go, regardless of the context or the nature of the provocation.

    Thanks for clarification on sequence of events WJ - either way 2+ 2 = inexcusable on all counts

  20. Ayr away Friday night.

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    5 hours ago, G SUS said:

    Hear, hear. 

    The supporter launching the abuse at our players(which they seem to regard as "normal behaviour" - their words, not mine) has been extremely abusive to our players after most away games this season when we haven't won. I understand that there will be frustration at not winning a game of football but some of the things this character says is so far over the line it's untrue and I'm actually surprised someone hasn't snapped with him before now. If football makes you that angry, maybe it is time to do something else with his hard earned cash and Saturday's. 

    I’ve just seen the video of the initial provocation as the team went out for the 2nd half - deary me not good at all and puts some colour into RF’s reaction post match.

    The fan hurling abuse/wanting a square go with one of the players and the one who was shouting the sectarian bile have disrespected the club. I hope that they are seriously reflecting on their behaviour today and don’t show their faces around the ground this season. Perhaps it is they who should be issuing an apology today.

  24. Independent Fans Statement

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    27 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said:

    When folk say can fan ownership work they ask a fair question. I was, for a long time, what you might call a "critical friend" of fan ownership. Especially in a football league with a patchy sponsorship record, the default model has, and not just for Thistle, been an emphasis on gates and benefactors.

    But the blunt truth is Thistle's choice isn't between fan ownership and a wealthy benefactor.

    Thistle's choice is between some form of fan ownership and being owned by a holding company owned by the estate of someone who's sadly passed away. There is no knight in shining armour ready to bear the burden.

    Save the Jags happened in the 1990s because, after Jim Oliver, there was no one person able or willing to bear the burden on their own.

    David Beattie and PropCo happened in the late 2000s because, even after Save the Jags, there was no one person willing to bear the burden of the Club without some sort of security on their investment.

    The closest we got to that white knight existing was when Colin Weir had all the resources, all of the willingness to muck-in and could absorb all of the risk. But that was only possible because he was making initially substantial six figure, and latterly high seven figure sums available to Three Black Cats to get on and do it.

    Unless the beneficiaries of his estate want to carry on doing that, and there's absolutely no evidence that they do (nor, frankly can we expect them to) that situation no longer exists.

    The only people who would buy our Club are asset strippers who don't care about the fans and the product on the park. Just ask fans of Nice and Barnsley how Paul Conway and co are working out for them.

    Fan ownership won't be easy. But it is the answer to which more and more clubs, of all sizes, are turning.

    If you're hesitant about The Jags Foundation because you don't know what kind of Club it would lead to in ten years time, ask yourself this:

    • what will Partick Thistle look like in ten years time if Three Black Cats still owns it?
    • what will Partick Thistle look like in ten years time if a different vehicle is given the shares?

    If either of those two outcomes is, in your opinion, clear and rosy, fair enough. That's a call for you to make.

    But if you think that both of those outcomes are filled with uncertainty, in terms of finances, governance and management, I think you should be backing The Jags Foundation. Even though it is not risk free, it has models and mentors, in Scottish and English football.

    No other organisation is better placed to mobilise the talents and resources of the Thistle support as things stand.

    For me, I think an organisation that is genuinely independent of the Thistle Board, genuinely independent of past and current major shareholders and directors, and which has already mobilised about a quarter of the home support in making regular financial contributions, is really well placed to engage with the wider Thistle community on a number of different levels.

    After years of wrangling by personalities and proxies, a genuinely fresh start would do the world of good. An opportunity to define Thistle by its positives, rather than just by what we're not.

    This isn't just something for big clubs. Morton is about to become fan owned and controlled. A club that, for decades, spent literal millions™ of one of the last of a dying breed of entrepreneur owners of football clubs. That model is dying out as a viable one in Scottish football even more so than elsewhere, and the clubs that are going to benefit the most in the next 20 years are those that recognise that and adapt. Hearts and Motherwell are steaming ahead on this. Let's join them on the train before it leaves the station.

    a quiet night down in London WJ?!

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