Exiled AusJag

Just heard on talksport, newco in division 3

Where is Regan's extensive research to show why there would be 'social unrest' without rangers. As was pointed out in an earlier post, there have been many situations where unrest in the past have been directly linked to rangers, but without them, there is not the common bond to be tribal, as he so eloquently put it. So what would happen? Would the old supporters organise rallies for civil unrest, in the name of rangers, or would there be individual acts of vandalism? Would they go to other games in large groups purely to cause trouble? No one really knows. He's obvoiusly aware there has been social unrest in the past and is using that to justify his statement, so should the excuse for it be removed, or re-incarnated to allow it to raise it's ugly head again?

I still fail to understand why newco was allowed a vote

does anyone know what the numbers were?

I've been sitting up late tonight waiting or this decision. Now the SFL MUST follow suit and not allow newco into division one. Please Mr Beattie, take note.

Bell made a very good point about why he supports the Jags. My brother and myself were pointed towards Thistle by our dad when we were both young, firstly, because we could walk to Firhill, and secondly, as I was told by my dad in later years, that he didn't want either of us supporting a sectarian club. Due to my location, I can't stop going to Firhill if there's a yes vote, but as I said on another thread, after liquidation, the old club doesn't exist. ANY newco must apply through the proper channels as a matter of integrity, and entry to the SFL, if granted, must be at the lowest level, with no exceptions! Third Lanark were never given the option that's being made available now, and they were a well supported club. Why should anyone else be given preferential treatment? In the short term, from what I've read, there seems to be a polorisation of anger from the support from the oldco, but if a newco fails in a bit for SFL entry, then their fan base could dissipate. Don't forget, it's drawn from all over Scotland, and it used to amaze me when I was on the supporters bus to away games, seeing buses heading INTO glasgow with OF suppoters, therefore lowering the support for their home town teams. Hopefully they would filter away to their local clubs, which would not tolerate any sectarianism, and with a bit of luck, could be the start of the road to recoveray AWAY from sectarianism, and more bums on seats at other clubs. It's wishful thinking, I know, but even if a proportion of the non fanatical support who regularly go to their games were to switch, eventually go to their local clubs, then football will benefit.

Taken directly from interpretations of the laws of the game and guidelines for referees "Colours: If the jerseys of the two goalkeepers are the same colour and neither has another jersey to change into, the referee allows play to begin" Question answered with no ambiguity

I have been reading with interest the opinions on this this thread from the start, and like many others, am concerned that a newco could just walk into the SPL and first divison. Looking back several decades we have seen the demise of clubs old and new, with none, as far as I'm aware, being allowed to wipe away their debts and not suffer the consequenses. An example is Third Lanark, which had no sectarian following to generate a large income or influence opinion and I'm sure many people would have liked to see them continue, but were unable, and had to pay the ultimate price. Once a club has been liquidated, it ceases to exist. If a new Third Lanark was created (and I think one was, correct me if I'm wrong), they couldn't just walk straight back into the league. If Rangers supporters claim to have the best interest of a new club at heart, then they would support a new rangers from conception, through development to what ever success they wanted to achieve. But this newco should start at the bottom, the same way that a new Third Lanark would. I am interested to know if Scotland's football governing bodies have looked to other coutries for examples to help them, or have they remained blinkered abd inward looking. A level playing field HAS to be introduced into the Scottish game. It would not be re-introduced, because it has never been level. I believe support should be region, not religion based, and Scotland MUST look outside for guidance. Australia had a similar situation a couple of years ago in the Rugby League. Melbourne Storm was found to be illicetely operating outside the salary cap, and were hit with severe punishment. They were fined, stripped of several years premierships, and premiership points accrued during the current season they were playing were cancelled. The rest of the season had to be played, but if they won, still had no points from the game and finished the season pointless. What was interesting was that their fans still turned out to see them! I know I have raised this in the past, but one way to assist a level playing field would be to introduce a salary cap. All major football codes in Australia have the salary cap, and it appears to work. In the A league, Melbourne Victory were initially a strong club, but recently have faltered. Without a salary cap, they could easily have bought their way to the permiership. The past two years have seen Brisbane Roar as champions, but others have also won the premiership in the past, and now Brisbane's coach has gone to Victory. So it will be football knowledge, tactics and on field skill that will prevail, but with each club operating with a similar player budget, with one marquee playe allowed, e.g. Harry Kewell for Victory. Obviously the salary cap would be lower for the lower leagues, reaching the peak in the top division. That would prevent paying huge salaries for top players, but the league outcomes would be very difficult to forecast, and I think make the Scottish game more exciting and competitive. If Scottish football's going to reorganise, it has to be radical, and not just a different version of the status quo.

It seems it's still evolving. If I was lucky anough to have additional assistants as well as assistants, I would prefer them on the left looking at the attacked goal. http://fortheintegrityofsoccer.blogs.com/artandscienceofrefereeing/2011/08/additional-assistant-referees-the-sequel-from-ed.html give a very good and valid reason for this

Sitting watching the telly about 1/2 hour ago, having a nice quiet beer, when my wife and myself started to hear a rumbling sound. Next thing it got quite loud and the walls started to shake and everything in the house rattled. Turns out there was a 5.2 earthquake about a couple of hundred km away. Scary stuff!

What made you look for that stuff in the first place?

especially as I was brought up less than a mile from Firhill. fair dinkum so I was.

In Oz the cots are baby's cots. Mamas and papas sleep in beds

It's about 17 years since I was last there, but you'll love it, especially watching the sunset over the indian ocean

Do you argue with your wife and daughter when they want to watch something? I even had to go to IKEA yesterday as a muscle injury has put me out from refereeing for a couple of weeks. It's called sufference!

Wise move. I think you'll find there will be more opportunities in Melbourne

Drove through there on the way back from the Sunshine Coast a couple of months ago. I was quite surprised as to how nice it is, but I still think Melbourne's the best.

Last night my wife and myself watched the first semifinal of the eurovision song contest with my daughter and son in law. It seemed to get better after a few wines!!! We're watching the second semifinal now (delayed for Australia). It's like picking at a scab. You know you shouldn't do it, it's painful, but you just can't stop yourself. And tomorrow night, delayed again, Engelbert Humperdink sings for Britain. My gran thought he was wonderful, and she died in 1978. Will it be Cliff Richard next year??????

Welcome to Oz, but when you travel round I think you'll find Melbourne is far nicer than Sydney. (was working in Sydney last week)

My wife has always added a tin of beans to the mince, the same way her dad cooked it. The sauce in the tin helps to thicken the gravy and I've always liked the taste. My daughter cooks it the same way and my 2 1/2 year old granddaughter loves it.

from melbourne. It was 32 degrees and sunny, and new years day is to be 35!!

I admire you for going ahead and getting that done. Having qualified as a registered nurse, logic dictates all the advantages, but the squeamish side of me says otherwise. so I stick with the lenses.

Ours are so laid back they'd just get their minders to batter yours. Just watch their body language

Been wearing them for over 30 years. Disposables are definately the best way to go, but you need to get a material that won't irritate your eye. Some brands do, some don't, just trial and error and lots of samples. I find the easiest way is clean them again before putting them in, rinse with saline, then fill the eye surface of the lens with saline. This cushions the lens going in and makes it nmore comfortable. They are also a godsend for referees

It even made the news here in Oz. Went to see the 2 in Adelaide in March. They just sit there, and sit there, and sit there etceteraa etceteraa etceteraa. (Actually went with my granddaughter who had more fun listening and watching the monkeys. Now she's trying to imitate them) monkeys, not pandas