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I was thinking about influence LLD, not satisfaction!

Hope there is something in return for TJF for their contribution.

Can't see how the Dunfermline game itself will affect Club finances significantly, but a win and a favourable draw for the next round could! My concern is that the Board decide to avoid risk, and sell players in the January window. Not sure about who would be marketable (apart from Milne). I presume TJF have been talking to the Board about how they could help avoid the need to sell players or fund the wages of new players.

Why wasn't Milne playing?

Irrespective of any financial implications, I cannot see the Board changing the manager now. First of all, I suspect the Board will seek some stability after the last few months. Second, there is no time to appoint someone and take advantage of the transfer window. The team's results are volatile, with very few draws, and who knows what might happen in January and February. If the team is mid-table come mid/end Febrary and safe from relegation, then the Board might review the situation. As I posted above, financial constraints could be overcome if change is sought.

If cash is short, and the Board decides to change the management, then they could possibly borrow against the savings of going to a smaller management team. Three managers is ridiculous for a club of our size.

Ta LLD

What happened to the edit facilty?

I cannot get through to the match, and was hoping it will be be on the tele.

First game back at Firhill since the pandemic. What a stotter! We could have scored another 2 or 3 goals before the break, but the commitment from all the players was outstanding. Two fantastic Ayr goals. Unfair to single out players for praise, but cannot argue with MOTM choice.

The video shows Milne scoring - I'm really confused about why Graham was credited and why he seems to claim it.

Weather forecast I have is that there will be snow overnight and up until mid-day on Saturday plus freezing temperatures. Better get that brush looked out!

If we lose, the Board goes!

If you are right LJ, then the gruppenfuhrers of the SFA and SPFL are visionaries, and should be lauded!

Hard to imagine that there will be general agreement to play all matches at an earlier time in winter, but there is nothing to prevent clubs reaching mutual agreement to play particular fixtures at an earlier time. Maybe even the dunderheids at the SPFL might be persuaded that it's in their best interests, and they could cite environmental reasons to cover their backs.

I can't see any reason why kick-offs cannot be brought forward for mid-winter Saturday games when floodlights are needed This would save clubs money, and would allow that saving to be used forUSH if needed, thus avoiding re-scheduling fixtures, improving cashflow and possibly improving the environment.

Fine choice for a training ground.

Thanks all, that clears that up I think.

Maybe someone who knows the the training ground address in Kirkintilloch Road could check the Land Register to find the current and previous owners.

These Trustees are an apalling group of people who should never be anywhere near the (proxy) stewardship of a public company. As ever, the fundamental question is what are Low's motives? She is a serial meddler, with a seat on the board of 4 or 5 quangos, so perhaps she is quite simply a control freak with political convictions she wants satisfied. With no personal shareholding, there seems no financial incentive for her to sell the Club or its assets, although she could receive other payments (consultancy fees, etc) for her involvement in such a move. My main concern is over the Club's assets. The PTFC Trust generates no income to the Club, and the board members have shown no inclination to invest in the Club. There will be some substantial expenditure needed to maintain the fabric of Firhill in the next 5 years or so, and that will almost certainly mean raising capital either from cash flow (unlikely) or loans (expensive with interest rates rising). In such circumstances, these may be an incentive to sell Firhill for housing development and for the Club to de-camp to the training development site at Kirkintilloch., which I believe is still owned by 3BCs. Just to add to the mix, there seems to be no let or hindrance in the PTFC Trust selling the shares to whomsover it pleases. The Club is in perilous waters, Low has to be removed.

Difficult for TJF to get any traction given the small numbers likely to be interested in a Partick Thistle story. Perhaps they should try to generalise the story by pointing out the moral and governance issues involved and so widen its appeal : A substantial legacy being hijacked by a self appointed group, no control of a public company by shareholders, no shareholder presence on Board, no constraint on the sale of assets to third party, no investment in company by any director, directors being economical with the truth, etc. There is really newsworthy material there, just don't expect the Daily Mail to publish it.

Low will be well known to the Mail's editors from her days as PR chief to Michael Forsyth (aka the prince of darkness to civil servants in the Scottish Office). She will have been given an easy passage in publishing her diatribe, and the chances of the Mail publishing a response - either an article or a letter - is vanishingly remote. Not sure who her target audience was, but suspect that she chose easy access rather than effective communication. Maybe TJF could go to the press complaints ombudsman (if that is the right name). If successful, a published apology would be printed (3 lines, 1 column page13). Best hope for retribution is via a serious paper, perhaps an approach to the Herald, Scotsman or Guardian (who often seem short of Scottish material) - might prove fruitful.

Maybe someone who's rich could pirate a copy.

Thanks WJ, I got that bit badly wrong - pity! Sorry if I added to your headache.

This point has been raised before, but the transfer makes it relevant once again. There must be laws governing the operation of trusts. It is hard to imagine that a trust can be legally controlled by a single entity like 3BC to the extent that they do, and in the manner they have adopted. Perhaps TJF should take further legal advice on this if they have not already done so. An appeal to the SFA is obviously now needed, but I'm unsure what criteria they would apply in reaching a decision. The Jags Trust I believe have 26% of the voting shares in PTFC. From my own business experience I think that gives the power of veto over substantial changes to the operation of the Company - such as sales of assets like the stadium or a sale of the Club itself. I know that the Jags Trust and TJF have held discussions, but perhaps a more binding arrangement/agreement can be negotiated. This is obviously a second best option, but it may prevent unwanted major changes.