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Even when he wasn't scoring Roberts was constantly spurring on his fellow strikers. Was a far more valuable player than just for his goal tally.

Anyone watch the game in a pub as the solitary Jags fan? Fairly embarrassing being constantly asked what the competition was and if it was a semi final why wasn't there a bigger crowd. As we were in the lead for most of the time I was talking up the game. Was telling all and sundry that the telly camera was sited in the stand where most of the fans were housed just seconds before the official attendance of 1307 was flashed up on the screen . Very small consolation I know but it really is a Mickey Mouse tournament.

The lads that watched the game with me thought we were set out a bit negatively but when I explained our form this season they appreciated the thinking behind the formation. Compared to our previous form, six straight defeats against Div 1 opposition, a 2-0 away win and 2-2 draw at Dingwall is a vast improvement. I just hope McCall can sell the last two games as a positive to motivate the team rather than have them deflated about yesterday's outcome. Anyway I too thought we were a shade the poorer side over the ninety minutes but only marginally. Imo we were the better side in the extra time period. Jaggernaut, there's little point to your last paragraph. Whilst it's stating the obvious, there's countless ifs and buts that we can site that have cost or earned the team far more money. Turn it the other way around, nobody lauds Paul Ritchie, possibly one of the most hapless centre forwards we've ever had, or Sean Kilgannon, a player who could only dream of aspiring to mediocrity. But for these two scoring a couple of penalties a few years back we might be a part time outfit, at best unable to get out of the 2nd Division. There's plenty valid criticism that can be applied in general to Halliwell & Buchanan but putting a value on a couple of individual mistakes is unfair. Otherwise you should really look back and remember Mssrs Ritchie & Kilgannon with fond affection.

I'd appreciate this post being considered in tandem with Steven H's (post 3). Do you believe that the Jags Trust should be the centre of and driving force behind most if not all Club fundraising? If yes how do you square it between handing proceeds of fundraising direct to the Club, which many JT members and those donating may wish, as opposed to withholding monies, say to purchase shares or perhaps for some ringfenced purpose, that other members and those donating might prefer?

Congrats!

I'm sick to my back teeth of reading posts about what's wrong with the Jags Trust from folk that are either non or ex-members. If they were to break out and spend a tenner or fiver to join or re-join the Trust and then tell us what's wrong they might just find their opinions getting a bit more respect. After all it's only joining a feckin' fans association not enlisting in some sort of groundbreaking lifestyle change. As far as I'm aware the Jags Trust is the only non regionalised Jags fans association. If it's that unsuitable why not form another association? Evidently we've somewhere in the region of between 350-550 fans who're willing to join our only fans association. There's no other pressure group in Jaggydom so in effect all opposition to the way the Club has and is been run carries the weight of as low as 350 fans. Oh, that and a few sniping from outside.

Think you need urgent treatment, mate. If you've been following the Jags since '72 and you're going to walk cos we got beaten on penalties away from home against a team further up the league than us then........ sorry I've run out of words. For a moment I thought yours was a serious post.

If Dundee sell Harkins when in administration will we not get our full entitlement? It wouldn't be their money in the first place so surely would not come under the terms of their CVA. Plus they'd be incurring a football debt, which is frowned on by the authorities. I hope whoever the mystery person at our Club in charge of liaising with the SFA/SFL is on the ball.

I've missed the last couple of games so not too sure of who should start. Of all the youngsters Jamie Campbell looks most like he could do a turn. I wouldn't necessarily start him but he could do some damage running at a tired defence especially with extra time a possibility.

Thanks for the info and the good luck message. You might want to e mail this and any further info to Gerry Britton at [email protected]. Gerry oversees our youth development.

Probably not but may well have been with us by now if Dundee had gone into admin a few months back. I'd imagine the guy is a fairly good assistant manager/coach. On another matter, and again there's no money to fund this, but I'd like to see Billy Dodds working with the forwards. Sad to say but it wouldn't require much dosh to have him come in a couple of training days. Probably suit him too as it wouldn't get in the way of his media work at the BBC. edit to add, I await a McKennan diatribe about ex fitba players spouting nonsense on the Beeb

.....it is not.

Not that I believe it

Grant, just about every fan I've ever spoken to over many seasons reckons the 3x10 SFL leagues are a major turn off and wish change. That's probably one of the major reasons for dwindling crowds and apathy amongst football supporters. If we can't even get that changed how the hell do you put pressure on the SFL to implement a sizeable penalty on one member club?

He's back!

Leave the amount due the taxman and subtract the soft loans and that's probably about £150000 due to serious creditors. I'd guess some of that £150K will be due to Tayside Polis but that'll still leave these crooks/idiots paying out an extremely low nominal amount to a group of folk due collectively at least a six figure sum. If Melville withdraws his promised funds fair enough, I can understand that. However if he withholds these funds to later use to take Dundee, presuming they're lightly dealt with by the SFL, out of admin then it'll be sickening.

I'm sure he still enjoys a fortnightly jaunt through the vomitorium.

We've even made the Football Economy.com Not that I've ever heard of it.

Similar to above, reading between the lines I don't think it's necessarily the lack of funds to pay the taxman that's brought on the move to administration. It looks more like it's the on going week by week losses. Cynically they can get rid of Chisholm & Dodds, which the fans were demanding but previously was an unaffordable option (where have I heard something similar?). I wouldn't be too surprised if they've already consulted the SFL and been made aware of the likely penalty they'll receive. Perhaps they feel they've a sporting chance of avoiding relegation on a 10 pt penalty or they believe that SPL league reconstruction will mean there's no relegation in our division this season . Once again I say it's the small supply and service companies that are owed money that have most of my sympathy.

Coverage in the Glaswegian

Appears to be the case

Damn! Asked in a nearby pub if I could watch the game on Sunday. I got a no problems but the pub's infested with the local rugby club and even the landlord's an ex prop forward for some Yorkshire side.

Hear hear! They're decent couple of lads. btw I see Jamie Adams will be sent back to his club again. Is he creating some sort of record?

I've attended many JT meetings, meet the Board etc and I find the deeper into the sh*t we are and/or the more controversial the reason for the meeting the more turn up. Maybe we don't really want the next meet to be too well attended .

Off on a slight tangent here but I'm sure it's been clear to many of us that the skill set that's been most absent from the Board for so long has been in public relations. We're now spared the utterances of Cowan & Hughes (as often as not contradictory) so that in itself is a PR coup but what we're now left with is a spokesman said void. Step forward someone from the Trust with exceptional PR & customer service skills and we could be on a winner. Of course ideally from the Board's point of view said person with these skills would also be a lousy board rep, a poacher turned gamekeeper, unable or unwilling to represent the fanbase and liaise with the Trust Board .