jlsarmy

For whatever reason James Penrice had lost his way a bit at Firhill , couple of seasons before that he had played every minute of every game His last season at Firhill he was in and out of the team which I think was maybe the Covid season Big Credit to James for turning it around

He started 14 times that season and was on the bench 5 times

He had fallen out with Ian McCall when he left and wasn’t playing.

Don’t think it’s just how we develop Academy players, it’s how we coach them after that at first team level as well Mackenzie and Diack have been about the First Team for the last 2/3 years with very little development and not starting a lot of games . We didn’t get the best out of Penrice or Kevin Nisbett , neither were playing for the first team when they left but developed elsewhere.

Possibly the 2 you mentioned were development fees and they hardly played a first team game , we haven’t got a great record of developing our Academy players over the last 20 years who go on to bigger and better things and help us financially like Motherwell , Hibs or even Hamilton Hopefully players like Stanway , McKenzie, Diack will push on , with Ben Stanway my bet to go on to bigger and better things .

I doubt that there was any agreement in place as no one probably foresaw the improvement in James Penrice but hopefully moving on we could learn from our experience .

Got to disagree if you break it down , probably 4 players if you include Liam Lindsay in the last 20 years have been part of the youth set up at PTFC Nisbet and Penrice were let go and have prospered elsewhere Jack Hendry played a few games for us having been part of the Dundee United Academy and then we got a fee for him Liam Lindsay has carved out a good career for himself and we got a decent fee for him but if our Academy can only produce 3 or 4 players in the last 20 years , is that really good enough?

Not sure that is right , if you look at Van Dijk going from Celtic to Southampton then to Liverpool and Celtic picking up add on fees for every transfer that is made . Obviously with Penrice going to Livi after running down his contract there would be no add ons but moving to Greece for a fee surely if we had a Sell on Clause it would be implemented

Thanks , schoolboy error from the Club if they didn’t put a sell on clause in the deal .

Really pleased for James Penrice and how’s he’s turned his career around and now to reap the rewards . Doesn’t seem long ago that Archie told him that he wanted Penners to be as fit as Christie Elliott!! Getting 70k on a 2 million transfer doesn’t seem great for a sell on clause .

I find everything about our Club just now totally weird over the last few months Supported our Club for over 50 years and this season ahead must rank as one of the most uninspiring in that time . At this moment not a lot to look forward to. Surely it would have been better to get some good signings in for the pre season and that would have given us a little bit of hope and into the bargain would have pushed along the Season Tickets Sales. Has apathy set in ?

Miles too dear at £138.00 per person for a 2 course meal !!!! Think the commercial dept have got this totally wrong.

Not sure about that , think everyone knows the remit of a Sporting Director within football

He’s talking absolute nonsense, Ian Barraclough had already started as Sporting Director so he knew what the template was before he was interviewed.

He’s also been sacked from every job he’s had ( Dundee ,,Milwall etc ) Not a great fit