The Sunnylaw Jag Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 As usual brilliant TJR. The Partick Thistle Swifts what a great name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 ^ Cheers Sunnylaw, although it’s all credit to Niall Kennedy and the awesome ptearlyyears.net If it wasn’t for Niall, 1001 Jaggy tales of the unexpected would still be locked up in dark, dusty vaults! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) The Inchview Boys Are In Town Photo c/o PT History Archive David Hislop (forward) Whit a fine figure of a man. Davie’s saying “don’t mess with me” as he looks you straight in the eye. This former Glasgow Royal player, born Percy David Hislop, committed himself to the Thistle cause as a teenager in the summer of 1888 and proved to be a great asset during his 2 full seasons with the club. Wisely, he never let on about the Percy bit, and gained the full respect of his team mates when he nabbed his first hat-trick in a tour match in September 1888 as Thistle trounced Ulster by 12 goals to 1. He repeated the feat in his second season, helping Thistle to a 5-2 win against Port Glasgow Athletic in October 1889. In all, the big man played at least 70 times in the dark blue and netted at least 25 goals, most commonly coming from out on the right wing. His talent didn’t go un-noticed and he was soon poached away by Rangers in the summer of 1890. He duly played with them in their first ever Scottish Football League season, 1890-91, and was a massive hit at Old Ibrox, virtually an ever present as he contributed 10 goals to their joint title winning campaign. He was then lured down South by Aston Villa before returning North to, of all places, Forfar Athletic. David is one of the super seven who contributed to all three victories against Rangers in season 1888-89. historians note: I’ve got a strong hunch that the “D. Hyslop” quoted as playing for Thistle twice in May 1887 is one and the same as this “David Hislop” My case file is very much open to the possibility that he was either a fringe member or perhaps even a miss-spelled guest at that time. Looking at the photo on page 146 of the History Book, I’d swear that was David Hislop sitting on the grass, front left as you look. Since that picture appears to be earlier than 1888-89, such a positive i.d. could perhaps strengthen this train of thought. That's definitely Hislop in the photo on page 146! Great stories here. Should be mandatory reading in schools! Edited February 7, 2015 by Jaggernaut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 The Partick Thistle Swifts what a great name. Other favourites of mine include the Queen's Park Strollers and the Arbroath Casuals! That's definitely Hislop in the photo on page 146! Great stories here. Should be mandatory reading in schools! Ah, thought so. More evidence. Cheers Jag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 The Inchview Boys Are In Town Photo c/o PT History Archive Charles McQuarrie (ex-player, Treasurer) Unfortunately, wee Charlie is found here competing for space with a beanpole and a man-mountain. Surprisingly, he was the only beardie at the time – but even that’s cut off. Tut. Aye, good one Mr. Photographer. Like many of the club’s members in the 19th century, Charlie’s ambitions to play football were perhaps not in line with abilities, and therefore other duties were performed for the love of Partick Thistle. Throughout the 1880s Charles served as Match Secretary, Treasurer and was the club’s representative at meetings of the Glasgow FA. As well as appearances in the second eleven, he made it onto the field as a first team player on two occasions in 1887, lining up both times as inside right to legendary club centre forward, Willie Paul. He played vs. Glasgow Thistle [a] W3-2 in April and vs. Renfrew [h] L1-2 in December. Won 1, Lost 1. For 4, Against 4. Perfectly balanced – just like his books! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 The Inchview Boys Are In Town Photo c/o PT History Archive J. Kelly (forward) This rather shifty looking character has left next to no identity traces. Good job Kelly. What was his forename? Where did he come from? Where did he go? Nobody knows. He played mainly at inside left and appeared on at least seven occasions between February and May 1889, scoring at least twice. His known team record is rather decent – W5 D1 L1. Last known appearance? Partick Thistle 6, Rangers 2 on the 4th May 1889. Way to go JK. historians note: John Litster reports four J. Kellys in Scottish Football 1888-89, all played in the Scottish Cup. There was a James Kelly (Vale of Leven Wanderers); James Kelly (Newton Stewart Athletic); and both a John Kelly and a James Kelly (Erin Rovers). Niall notes that we had a trainer known as J. Kelly in season 1889-90, the chances are high he could be one and the same as our man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 The Inchview Boys Are In Town Photo c/o PT History Archive Andrew M. Smith (Honorary Secretary) Andrew became part of the committee in 1884 and quickly demonstrated that he was able to take on the most demanding of roles and he soon became the secretary of choice come AGM time – despite his repeated attempts to step aside and let someone else take the bulk of the strain! Niall Kennedy: “At the club AGM in June 1893, Andrew Smith did indeed resign as secretary and was elected President of the club and presented with a purse of sovereigns in recognition of his past services. However, no volunteer could be found to take Smith’s previous secretaries post. Smith resigned after less than an hour as President, and resumed his role as secretary of the club.” Alongside John Boag, with whom he would undoubtedly have taken much counsel, one of Andrew’s greatest achievements was helping to reshape the course of Scottish Football – to the great benefit of Partick Thistle. Further to his election as President of the Scottish Alliance, it was he who presided over the master plan to amalgamate the Alliance with the Scottish League. As other clubs in the Alliance floundered with a mutiny, Andrew’s skilful manoeuvring ensured that Thistle were as good as “first through the door” when it came to the establishment of the Scottish Second Division. He was clearly a well-respected figure in the game as he was duly elected as the first President of the newly formed SFL Second Division. The summer of 1893 was as busy as it was fruitful for Andrew and for Thistle – it could arguably be viewed as the greatest close season in the club’s history. Andrew continued to serve Thistle in various committee roles, and saw the club all the way through to Meadowside and the first dalliance with the Top Flight in the late 1890s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 The Inchview Boys Are In Town Photo c/o PT History Archive John Drummond (forward) Drummer, an Edinburgh-born lad, arrived at Inchview as a 20 year old, and mainly plied his trade on the right side of the forward line. He wasn’t here for too long and his 39 known first team appearances were crammed into the period April 1889 to May 1890. In that time he netted on at least 15 occasions, including a hat-trick at Cappielow against Morton in a 4-4 draw in November 1889. All of his known strikes came in the one campaign, and his 15 goal total gives him the proud accolade of finishing as our Top Scorer for the season 1889-90, breaking Willie Paul’s long run of 3 seasons as top cat. John’s exploits were such that the mighty Preston North End came calling at the end of that season and he was offski, further bolstering the Scots ranks at Deepdale. For them, he picked up where he left off at Inchview, scoring on his debut in The Football League against West Bromwich Albion on 13th September 1890. Wikipedia takes up John’s story to great effect: “Drummond was one of three players signed from Preston by Sheffield United in the spring of 1891 after chairman Charles Stokes decided the club needed to use its financial position to attract more capable players as the club looked for election to the Football League. He became a regular in the side for the following seasons and at the end of the 1892–93 season he scored the only goal as United took on Accrington in a test match which saw The Blades promoted to Division One for the first time in their history. Anecdotal reports of the match said that the pitch was in a terrible state and Drummond was almost the only player to be able to keep his feet, something that he attributed to painting the soles of his boots with black lead to prevent the mud from sticking. He went on to make 89 competitive appearances for the club and scored 24 goals. Drummond joined Liverpool in the summer of 1884 for whom he made 18 appearances in total, scoring one goal. After one season on Merseyside he returned to Yorkshire to sign for Barnsley St. Peter's where he saw out the remainder of his career. Drummond had been an apprentice shipyard carpenter as a boy and returned to work in the Dumbarton shipyards after his retirement from football, reportedly working until the age of 78.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 The Inchview Boys Are In Town Photo c/o PT History Archive John Hendry (full-back) Gotta love Hendo, there he is, hands in pocket, relaxed as they come – if it wasn’t for that ‘tache you’d never think it was the 1880s. Along with Burnsy, he gets my vote as joint favourite. As this banner attempts to dig back as close as it possibly can to the very beginning of Thistledom, John is the oldest and best link that we’ve got. Here we have a man who played with Thistle in the public park days of the 1870s. John was the only player who could lay claim to having played at all 4 of our homes to date; Overnewton Park, Jordanvale Park, Muir Park and now, Inchview. John played at right back when Thistle won their first trophy – the West of Scotland Cup in 1879. The final was played in front of 400 spectators at the First Hampden Park on the 5th April 1879; Partick Thistle 1, Marchtown 0. The chances are high that he played in our very Scottish Cup match versus Jordanhill in October 1880, although no line ups have been unearthed for that one as yet. He was certainly there for the following round against Rangers a few weeks later. In fact, John was virtually an ever present all the way through the 1880s as Partick Thistle continued to develop into one of the most prestigious clubs in the country. To all intents and purposes, John seems to have been a one club man and appeared for the club on at least 166 occasions – an enormous total in an era when a huge number of team line ups were simply not recorded. Until such times as we discover evidence to the contrary, our man goes down as one of those “one goal wonders”. His goal came at Inchview in on the 2nd April 1887; he put Thistle 2-1 up in a 3-1 derby victory against Cowlairs. At the time of this photograph, John was also listed as being in the committee (along with Bob Robertson) and it’s my guess that these two might have been part of the “match committee” responsible for team selection. We probably weren’t old enough to have club legends in the late 1880s but if we did… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 The Inchview Boys Are In Town Photo c/o PT History Archive Jerry Suter (forward, Match Secretary) Jarvis “Jerry” Suter, more often than not a left sided forward, was another of those who could qualify as a bit of an early Thistle legend, making at least 149 appearances between 1882 and 1890, notching up at least 46 goals in the process. Again, it should be emphasised that many goal scorers in these days went unreported and almost certainly do not reflect the full extent of each player’s prowess. Nonetheless, his known 11 goals total in season 1884-85 is enough to give him the accolade of Top Scorer for that campaign. His talents at that time were recognised by the Glasgow FA and he was selected to play against Dunbartonshire in October 1884, scoring twice in a 3-3 draw. Alongside him that day were fellow Jags Andrew Duff, John Hendry, Jack Beattie and Bob Robertson. Jerry was honoured with two further appearances for Glasgow in February 1887, again scoring vs Edinburgh (L2-3), and providing assists vs Sheffield (W10-3). Amongst his many scoring highlights for Thistle were 3 career hat-tricks including one in the FA Cup (11-1 vs. Cliftonville, Dec 1886) and one in the Scottish Cup (10-0 vs. Westbourne, Sep 1887). His strong commitment as a Jags man was underlined in the mid-1880s when he accepted the dual role of Player / Match Secretary, taking chief responsibility for arranging a fixture card which was as attractive as possible for the treasurer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 I wrote the bottom row pen pics a year ago and could have sworn I posted them, but it seems not... Well, now seems as good a time as any - it's our "birthday" week and Thistle will be 140 on Friday! One a day up until then seems like a plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 The Inchview Boys Are In Town Photo c/o PT History Archive Bob Robertson (half-back) Boab is another right up there with the Hislop, giving it the big “don’t mess” vibe. He first appeared in 1883 and went on to rack up at least 196 appearances for the club over the course of the next ten years, with spells as club captain. It’s a virtual certainty that, in actuality, his tally would be way over the 200 mark. His successful Thistle career was underlined by the fact that he played three times for the Glasgow FA; vs. Dunbartonshire in 1884 (D3-3), and against Sheffield in both 1887 (W10-3) and 1889 (W8-1). He started out as a half-back in 1883, although he went on to have long spells as a full-back and even played in forward roles, as and when required. He was always keen on getting forward and was noted for having decent shooting ability – evidenced by his impressive haul of at least 43 goals for the dark blues. A great highlight for club and player came in March 1885 at Muir Park when Renton arrived for a Grand Challenge match, just three weeks after having been crowned Scottish Cup “champions”. This was a real glamour occasion for Partick – and a rare coup for the match secretary and the treasurer. Thistle, trailing 1-0 at half-time, came from behind to secure an infamous victory by 2 goals to 1. It’s said that the winning goal was a real team effort in a move that involved Willie Paul, Bob Robertson and James Miller, the latter doing the needful with his head. Brilliantly, the Scottish Umpire was moved to comment: “The scene that ensued almost baffles description – men, women and children giving vent to one exultant yell.” These were the deeds that were important in moving the club forward, instilling a great sense of pride locally as well as raising Partick Thistle’s stature on a countrywide level. In common with many others, Bob served the club on and off the field, taking up various committee roles throughout the 1880s. I’d be very surprised if a man of his stature wasn’t on the sub-committee responsible for team selection. Bob is one of the super seven who contributed to all three victories against Rangers in season 1888-89. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 I wrote the bottom row pen pics a year ago and could have sworn I posted them, but it seems not... Well, now seems as good a time as any - it's our "birthday" week and Thistle will be 140 on Friday! One a day up until then seems like a plan? Excellent plan! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 The Inchview Boys Are In Town Photo c/o PT History Archive William Hay (full-back) William’s stint at Inchview was a relatively short one, with all 16 of his known appearances coming between December 1888 and May 1889, the undoubted highlight of which was a 4-2 victory at Old Ibrox in February. Perhaps he played too well on that occasion – by season’s end the mob from Govan had coaxed him over to the dark side. For years, the Govanites had never managed to win even a single match at Inchview – their desperate response was to start poaching the talent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 The Inchview Boys Are In Town Photo c/o PT History Archive Andrew Johnston (forward) Our wee Eddie Gallagher look-a-like is proudly showing one off his City caps here. His striking prowess was recognised by the Glasgow FA and he represented the club in three matches; vs London in November 1886 (D2-2) and twice vs East of Scotland in February 1888 (D1-1) and February 1889 (L3-5). Andrew’s first known appearance was at Inchview on 31st January 1885, when he lined up as outside right vs. Kilmarnock Athletic. On his inside was Willie Paul – who was to score his first goal for the club that day – a historic occasion. Playing at centre forward was our eccentric goalie, Andrew Duff, who also got onto the score sheet. There were no goals for our Andrew though, but the Jags ran out winners by 5 goals to 0. The goals weren’t long in coming for the wee man though – there were at least 66 of them over the course of the next 6 years – and he outscored Willie Paul in what was the debut season for both forwards. In fact, Andrew’s first season total of at least 13 goals (all post-January) was enough for him to claim the crown as Top Scorer – not a bad start to his career. Andrew bagged at least 3 hat tricks in his time at Thistle, including a 4 goal haul in the 12-0 Scottish Cup mauling of Alloa Athletic in October 1885. On a personal level, Andrew might have felt some degree of satisfaction when he scored a first half equaliser at Deepdale in April 1889, for the Preston North End had just completed the “double”, were nicknamed “the Invincibles” and were considered the finest club side in Britain at the time. The goal looked to have given Thistle a famous draw until the home side snatched a winner at the death. Still, it was one he could tell the grandchildren. Later, Andrew signed up with Third Lanark as they geared up to compete in the inaugural Scottish Football League season of 1890-91. He was always welcome back at Inchview though – and would occasionally return as a guest and for the odd benefit match. Andrew is one of the super seven who contributed to all three victories against Rangers in season 1888-89. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 The Inchview Boys Are In Town Photo c/o PT History Archive Thomas Campbell (full-back) Thomas served 4 solid seasons for the cause from 1888-89, appearing on at least 65 occasions. A career low point for player and club undoubtedly came in his final season - a 3-0 home defeat to Hurlford in the Scottish Cup 2nd Preliminary Round in September 1891. As was normally the case with sides from Ayrshire, it was a rough battle full of nasty incident. Sending offs were far less common in the days when charging was largely a tolerated aspect of the play. However, that day Thomas was sent off along with Cosgrove of Hurlford. Niall Kennedy: “At the disciplinary meeting after the game, the referee accused both players of fighting. Campbell responded by saying that he had never been accused of rough play before, and if it had not been for his smartness in avoiding Cosgrove’s butting head he would have been carried off the field, Cosgrove denied butting, but admitted charging. Both players were censured.” On a more positive note, he can claim to have played for Thistle in our first ever League match in 1891, before going on to rack up 15 appearances in that inaugural Scottish Alliance campaign. Thomas signed for Glasgow Thistle in the summer of 1892 and went on to play with them in the first ever SFL Second Division season of 1893-94. Ooft. They were a doomed concern. Bad move Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 These are fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Top work TJR (and Niall). These images & stories are wonderful. What a legacy we have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 The Inchview Boys Are In Town Photo c/o PT History Archive George Ward (half-back) George was the second of three Ward brothers to appear for the club. He was preceded by his brother James a few years earlier, and William, several years later. William would later become club president and was, I think, the first chairman of the new Partick Thistle Football Club Limited in 1903. You can read an interesting interview with William here. All of George’s 27 known appearances were registered in season 1888-89. The half-back managed to get himself on the score sheet at least once – he slotted home the crucial 10th in a 12-1 tour victory away to Ulster! George is one of the super seven who contributed to all three victories against Rangers in season 1888-89. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Once again, well done to the club for this initiative, I think it’s truly wonderful to have the Inchview boys with us, connecting Partick with Maryhill all these years on. And, by the way, don’t be ignoring them – gie them a wee nod next time you walk past. We are Thistle we are. Happy “birthday” tae us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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