Steven H Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 My point was going to the steward inflamed the situation No, going to the steward was the course of action he chose to take, which he was well within his rights to do (whether you agree with this action or not). What happened next cannot be layed at anyones door but those involved, i.e. the fans mouthing off to the steward and the steward for being a bit OTT (if he/she was). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven H Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Been asked what was full story so i'll give it. During game my dad, objected to what he deemed was too much foul and abusive language from a section in the area we were in...an area full of kids...one being my daughter. He asked the steward to ask that the guy tone it down. That was it as far as we were concerned. Then about 5 mins later it all kicked off with the steward and the guy in question....the steward claimed he was assaulted, i know this because while outside , i heard the steward make a complaint of assault to the police. The guy was taken out amoungst a lot of abuse aimed at the steward and police...i stress we never asked him to be removed. Then a section of the support turned on me and my dad and daughter. We were called scum, sworn at repeatedly .....due to this i felt it best we left. the abuse and threats intensivied as we left and my daughter was in a great deal of distress....none of this mattered to those who continued with the abuse. Physical threats toward us were made. We then left the ground. stirling albion stewards offerded us seats in hospitality but i declined as my daughter was too upset and wanted home. thats it...not one bit of spin.....anyone who suggests otherwise should be here to deal with a terrified ten year old who will now , as she says, go back to thistle matches again and a 64 yr old grand father who has supported thistle his entire life, who will never watch thistle again. Me, im taking my time before making my mind up. That blows my 'misunderstanding theory' out the window then. Sorry you've had such an experience and hope your daughter is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleMad Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 No, going to the steward was the course of action he chose to take, which he was well within his rights to do (whether you agree with this action or not). What happened next cannot be layed at anyones door but those involved, i.e. the fans mouthing off to the steward and the steward for being a bit OTT (if he/she was). Generally when stewards get involved there is a good chance things are gonna turn sour. Getting stewards involved cause someone called the linesman a rent boy is pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Adam Spark Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 That blows my 'misunderstanding theory' out the window then. Sorry you've had such an experience and hope your daughter is ok. You're taking Lenny's word for it, then? I'd be very surprised to discover those involved resorted to the actions he's described and that the posters in his vicinity would fail to mention them. The guy who was ejected was released without charge, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleMad Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 That blows my 'misunderstanding theory' out the window then. Sorry you've had such an experience and hope your daughter is ok. So you are just gonna accept that without question or listening to the other side? jees that was pretty easy eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggybunnet Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Rubbish why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven H Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Generally when stewards get involved there is a good chance things are gonna turn sour. Getting stewards involved cause someone called the linesman a rent boy is pathetic. And why is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Adam Spark Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 why? Erm, because it didn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggybunnet Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Generally when stewards get involved there is a good chance things are gonna turn sour. Getting stewards involved cause someone called the linesman a rent boy is pathetic. only if they are drunk/to thick to listen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C.G. JAG Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Generally when stewards get involved there is a good chance things are gonna turn sour. Getting stewards involved cause someone called the linesman a rent boy is pathetic. That just confirms that the person was right to speak to the Steward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Adam Spark Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Then a section of the support turned on me and my dad and daughter. We were called scum, sworn at repeatedly .....due to this i felt it best we left. the abuse and threats intensivied as we left and my daughter was in a great deal of distress....none of this mattered to those who continued with the abuse. Physical threats toward us were made. Fifty of them? And some of them climbed over seats to physically intimadate you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggybunnet Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Erm, because it didn't happen. why would he lie????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven H Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 So you are just gonna accept that without question or listening to the other side? jees that was pretty easy eh The original post gave rise to some possible misunderstandings about who the abuse was directed at, the follow-up post by lennythistle removes the doubt...I assume you think he is lying? Where you in the same part of the stand as lenny? Did you see things differently to how he saw them? If so what's your version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleMad Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 And why is that? Because when people are at the football they are fired up supporting their team and sometimes dont react reasonably, ESPECIALLY not when it comes to stewards, who are often rude and haughty. So getting stewards invlved is proabaly gonna just create hastle. What the guy should have done is realised that swearing isnt actually going to harm his daugher in any way whatsoever, and if he is still uncomfortable after this epiphany then he could have moved to another area of the stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Adam Spark Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 why would he lie????? Maybe he hasn't calmed down yet, who knows? Were you sitting beside Honved? If so, you were in the vicinity? Did you see 50 fans physically intimidate Lenny and his family? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOVAN JAG Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 (edited) I have'nt read all the posts so sorry if im going off subject a bit. Im 42 and have a daughter of nine. Myself and rest of the family dont swear in front of her and i dont like it when others do it in the street etc...BUT...when ive took her along to Firhill ive told her she WILL hear it and it's not a big thing as that's just what happens at the football. I dont have a problem with it, and have done it myself many times when we've had bad decisions go against us. Swearing, shouting etc has and allways will be part of going to a game. If you dont want your children to hear it dont go. Simple as that. Edited October 23, 2010 by GOVAN JAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleMad Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 The original post gave rise to some possible misunderstandings about who the abuse was directed at, the follow-up post by lennythistle removes the doubt...I assume you think he is lying? Where you in the same part of the stand as lenny? Did you see things differently to how he saw them? If so what's your version? I was not there. And yes i do feel that he is at the vey least twisting the situation. However what i am saying is surely you should hear what others who were there have to say before you judge finally whethe he is being truthful. Dont you think there is a chance that he might just be a tad biased? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C.G. JAG Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Because when people are at the football they are fired up supporting their team and sometimes dont react reasonably, so it's probably best to speak to a Steward than try and approach them yourself. fixed it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C.G. JAG Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I was not there. And yes i do feel that he is at the vey least twisting the situation. However what i am saying is surely you should hear what others who were there have to say before you judge finally whethe he is being truthful. Dont you think there is a chance that he might just be a tad biased? I think you might be a tad biased, you seem to be leading the charge that the OP is lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven H Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Because when people are at the football they are fired up supporting their team and sometimes dont react reasonably, ESPECIALLY not when it comes to stewards, who are often rude and haughty. So getting stewards invlved is proabaly gonna just create hastle. What the guy should have done is realised that swearing isnt actually going to harm his daugher in any way whatsoever, and if he is still uncomfortable after this epiphany then he could have moved to another area of the stadium He shouldn't have to move seats tho! What if they were in good seats wi a good view? What if the seats had only just got a bit of heat in them and he didnt want to move to a cold seat? Is that where we are now, if you dont like it fuk off somewhere else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleMad Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 fixed it for you. '....so its probably best wake up and realsie that the football is a heated environment that maybe isnt suitable for your children IF (and i want to stress IF) you want to bring your children up in a world were they never hear swearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C.G. JAG Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I think you might be a tad biased, you seem to be leading the charge that the OP is lying. You described his post as "Rubbish". Based on what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggybunnet Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Because when people are at the football they are fired up supporting their team and sometimes dont react reasonably, ESPECIALLY not when it comes to stewards, who are often rude and haughty. So getting stewards invlved is proabaly gonna just create hastle. What the guy should have done is realised that swearing isnt actually going to harm his daugher in any way whatsoever, and if he is still uncomfortable after this epiphany then he could have moved to another area of the stadium this one (the woman) wasnt, she asked him not to do it, he said no probs the other guy could not keep quiet. why?? HE hasnt done anything wrong, why should he (and his kids) move???? there is a difference(as has been pointed out) between shouting, whats the **** was that, when they make a hash of somthing and just swearing for the sake of swearingthat is just abusieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Adam Spark Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I'm sure 50 baying fans would have been noticed by others inside the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleMad Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 this one (the woman) wasnt, she asked him not to do it, he said no probs the other guy could not keep quiet. why?? HE hasnt done anything wrong, why should he (and his kids) move???? there is a difference(as has been pointed out) between shouting, whats the **** was that, when they make a hash of somthing and just swearing for the sake of swearingthat is just abusieve. As far as i can tell the guy caled the linesman a rent boy....big deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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