Zatafact? 141 Seasons Of The Indomitable P T F C

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Scottish Cup

 

Jaggy factoid # 794

Thistle's herculean 11 game run to win the 1920-21 Scottish Cup was also matched by East Fife in 1937-38 who won 6 and drew 5 of their games. These two stand alone with that record of sorts, although 3rd Lanark RV (Third Lanark to you and me) played 9 "official" games as well as 3 "annulled after protest" games en route to their trophy success in 1888-89.

[Garscube Road End]

Scottish Cup

 

A teaser for you…

 

Beating the existing Scottish Cup holders became no biggie for Thistle as the years passed by. To date we have done this on 66 occasions.

 

We defeated St Mirren 3 times in 1926 and 1927 whilst they were still Scottish Cup holders. Great stuff.

 

We defeated Rangers 3 times in 1950 and 1951 whilst they were still Scottish Cup holders. Completely excellent.

 

However, as good as those stats are, they pale into insignificance when compared to the record for the category. Once, we beat a certain team 10 times whilst they were still Scottish Cup holders.

 

For a cyber pint, can you name the team?

 

Would that be Clyde who won the last Scottish Cup before the second world war?

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Well done Garscube

 

That was quick man! Clyde indeed. They have the record for the longest tenure as Scottish Cup holders. 7 years, 11 months, 28 days, from 22-Apr-1939 to 19-Apr-1947. There was, of course, no Scottish Cup for seven wartime seasons!

[Garscube Road End]

Well done Garscube

 

That was quick man! Clyde indeed. They have the record for the longest tenure as Scottish Cup holders. 7 years, 11 months, 28 days, from 22-Apr-1939 to 19-Apr-1947. There was, of course, no Scottish Cup for seven wartime seasons!

 

I don't drink beer, so a cyber pint of brandy will suffice. Ta!

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Steady with the measures

 

 

 

 

Scottish Cup

 

Jaggy quotes # 624

The first occasion that the Evening Times sponsored singing (for a few years it was very popular at British football matches) was at the Scottish Cup tie between Partick Thistle and Stenhousemuir at Firhill Park on 22nd January 1927. Songsheets were handed out around Firhill and a brass band played the tunes on the pitch. “The Desire of the ‘Evening Times’ is to encourage the excellent practice of Community Singing to warm the Hearts of the Spectators with the Good Fellowship which participation in mass harmony engenders, and to do something to relieve the tedium of waiting before the start of the match and during the interval.” ~ Evening Times, 21 January 1927.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Scottish Cup

 

Jaggy factoid # 795

Since 1873 there have been 128 Scottish Cup tournaments and in all of that time only one club has ever won the trophy having won less than half of their games. Yep, you’ve guessed it, the one and only Partick Thistle Football Club. Six draws and five wins did the trick in 1920-21. As the song goes, “There's not a team like the Firhill Jags”. There REALLY isn’t…

 

 

 

Here's the "bottom of the table" for this glorious wee stat...

 

Scottish Cup winners by legitimate game win ratio

 

45.45%

1920–21 - Partick Thistle

 

50.00%

1909–10 - Dundee

 

54.55%

1937–38 - East Fife

 

55.56%

1906–07 - Celtic

1978–79 - Rangers

 

Our unorthodox tradition will not allow it to happen any other way!

[Jaggernaut]

Scottish Cup

 

Jaggy factoid # 795

Since 1873 there have been 128 Scottish Cup tournaments and in all of that time only one club has ever won the trophy having won less than half of their games. Yep, you’ve guessed it, the one and only Partick Thistle Football Club. Six draws and five wins did the trick in 1920-21. As the song goes, “There's not a team like the Firhill Jags”. There REALLY isn’t…

 

 

 

Here's the "bottom of the table" for this glorious wee stat...

 

Scottish Cup winners by legitimate game win ratio

 

45.45%

1920–21 - Partick Thistle

 

50.00%

1909–10 - Dundee

 

54.55%

1937–38 - East Fife

 

55.56%

1906–07 - Celtic

1978–79 - Rangers

 

Our unorthodox tradition will not allow it to happen any other way!

 

That would make a great pub quiz question.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Scottish Cup

 

 

Jaggy trivia # 2000

At just the third time of asking, Thistle went all the way to the Quarter Finals of the 8 round tournament in 1882-83. In typical Jags fashion it was a strange old adventure that got us there. We started off with a fruitful Southside raid on Battlefield, defeating them 4-2 at Overdale Park and then racked up a new club record score by hammering the Govanites Mavisbank by 14 goals to 2 at Jordanvale. In the Third Round tie, Thistle benefitted from one of the quirky old SFA rulings, namely that should the score remain level after a replay, then both sides should progress. To keep the tournament in line, the ruling body would simply keep adjusting the number of byes in future rounds accordingly! So it was that after two successive 3-3 draws, both Thistle and Cambuslang progressed into the Fourth Round. Next up, it was even better news for the lucky Jags as Glasgow University scratched and we were propelled into Round Five. We then proceeded to benefit further still from lady luck, receiving a Fifth Round bye and we simply waltzed our way into the first of our thirty one Scottish Cup Quarter Finals. Alas, we were no match for Vale of Leven, thrice Scottish Cup winners already, and succumbed by four goals to nothing in front of 2,000 – a new record crowd at Jordanvale.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Scottish Cup

 

 

Jaggy factoid # 2317

The Scottish Cup has produced two club records for individual goal scorers. John Simpson stands as the only man known to have bagged a triple hat trick for the Jags. His mighty haul was achieved in the game which produced Thistle’s record competitive victory, namely the First Round 16-0 win against Royal Albert of Larkhall on January 17th 1930. Alec Hair is next best. He stands alone as the only known player to have netted a double hat trick for the club, doing so in the First Round 11-0 win against Dunkeld and Birnam on January 12th 1924. It is reported that there was a fair degree of discontentment amongst the 6,000 Firhill crowd, the patrons being somewhat disappointed at the uncompetitive nature of our 8 goal half time lead! There’s jist nae pleasing some folk…

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Scottish Cup

 

 

Jaggy factoid # 416

Thistle's toughest nut cracked took 420 minutes - a titanic 7 hour Scottish Cup 3rd Round struggle versus Kilmarnock in 1983, which took four games and 2 bouts of extra time to settle. This was easily Thistle’s most epic Cup battle, but not the longest the Scottish Cup has seen. That accolade rests with Beith and Broxburn who met in the First Round in 1909. Their tie went to four replays, two of which went to extra time, and a total of 510 minutes were played before Beith finally triumphed. The second, third and fourth replays were played on February 3rd, 4th & 5th. Beith's second round tie against St Mirren was on the 6th. Needless to say, they lost but gained yet another mega record in the same week by becoming the only team in British football to have played competitively in four successive days.

[The Sunnylaw Jag]

Further factoid; didn't we play the most hours of Scottish Cup football that season as the Epic Clyde games followed including the abandoned game. We lost out to Aberdeen in the quarters, who went on to win it. Incidentally, this was a question ( which club played the most hours . . .) put to Willie Miller on a Question Of Sport later that year. He got it wrong

Edited November 29, 2013 by The Sunnylaw Jag

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Scottish Cup

 

 

THE TEN YEAR TRAUMA

 

There was no Scottish Cup for five seasons from 1914-15 onwards, or for seven seasons from 1939-40 onwards. These gaps created some strange old stats...

 

Heard the one about the Top Flight team who went 9 years, 11 months and 26 days without winning a Scottish Cup tie? This stands, on a technicality, as Thistle’s longest winless run in the tournament by date span. After defeating Cowdenbeath in the Second Round on Saturday 12th February 1938, we never won another match until Saturday 7th February 1948 when we defeated our most commonly conquered Scottish Cup opponents, Dundee United, 4-3 in a Second Round Firhill thriller that went into extra time. Of course, this stat is completely skewed by the fact that there was no Scottish Cup for seven wartime seasons. Obviously, such a ridiculous run could never happen in normal circumstances. Could it? This is Thistle we’re talking about…

 

Jags fans who were amongst the 8,426 crowd at Love Street on Tuesday 31st January 1989 witnessed a virtuoso performance from Chic Charnley and, indeed, a magnificent team performance on the whole, as Thistle defied the odds and ran out deserved 3-1 winners in a Third Round replay against our Premier League opponents. Johnny Flood tore Saints apart down the flank and Gerry McCoy was deadly in the box. First half goals from Gerry McCoy and John Mitchell had put us firmly in the driving seat and even when St Mirren pulled one back from the spot, there was a strange air of confidence from those in red and yellow (on and off the park) that there was only going to be one winner in this tie, and so it proved when McCoy netted the decisive third. For Thistle, things were starting to turn around under Lambie and at the end of the match, players and fans were notably jubilant together. Had you told me that magical night that Thistle would not win another Scottish Cup tie for ten years I’d have laughed you out of town and dismissed you as a loon. Yet that is exactly what happened…

 

We lost at Tynecastle in the next round, and that defeat sparked our all-time worst Scottish Cup streak of ten consecutive lost ties. The full horror run reads as follows:

 

R4 18.02.1989 Heart of Midlothian [a] L0-2

R3 20.01.1990 Aberdeen [h] L2-6

R3 30.01.1991 Falkirk [a] L3-4 (after a 0-0 draw at Firhill 4 days earlier)

R3 25.01.1992 Hibernian [a] L0-2

R3 09.01.1993 Cowdenbeath [h] L0-1

R3 29.01.1994 Heart of Midlothian [h] L0-1

R3 29.01.1995 Dundee [a] L1-2

R3 31.01.1996 Heart of Midlothian [a] L0-1

R3 25.01.1997 Motherwell [h] L0-2

R3 24.01.1998 St Johnstone [a] L0-1

 

No wins for nine seasons in a row? Only one goal in the last seven seasons? Who could blame any Thistle fan who would fall out of love with the Scottish Cup at this stage?

 

Our 1990s troubles weren’t confined to tales of woe in the Scottish Cup, however. Partick Thistle Football Club Limited were also on the ropes off the park, on the verge of financial ruin, and Robert Reid has subsequently revealed that, genuinely, we were on the absolute brink of being unable to fulfil fixtures in November 1997. Thanks to the sterling efforts of Robert, Michael Max, Allan Cowan, Bobby Briggs and hundreds of Thistle fans via “Save The Jags” the unthinkable remained as an imaginary concept.

 

It was a grim period though, probably best diagnosed as “Post-Tannadice-Traumatic-Stress-Disorder”. After 107 years of playing national League football, Thistle sunk to their all-time lowest position at the end of season 1998-99, finishing 28th in Scotland’s football pecking order. Our lowly status at this time saw us having to face up to the ignominious prospect of a First Round Scottish Cup draw in November alongside, amongst others, a bunch of strolling Civil Servants, a bloke called Keith and some Welfare chancers from Whitehill. There were four ties drawn and twenty byes given. Thistle were not one of the clubs to receive a bye. Obviously. When you’re down on your luck you get no luck. We were sent to Arbroath for our troubles. A dour prospect on paper, it actually turned out to be one of the most legendary games in our modern day Scottish Cup story…

 

THE HEROES OF ARBROATH

 

For connoisseurs of good old fashioned “blood n snotters” cup football in the raw, freezing cold Gayfield Park was the place to be on the 5th December 1998. The Red Lichties were up for it from the word go, but it was Paul Tosh (on loan from Hibs) who fired home an early opener for Thistle in 8 minutes. Half an hour later, a bizarre bit of refereeing by Bobby Orr completely changed the complexion of the game. He disallowed an Arbroath goal on the grounds that David Kennedy had tugged on the jersey of the Arbroath scorer. The hapless Orr decided that it would be a better idea to award Arbroath a penalty instead, and sent our man off, effectively punishing both teams for what had been an innocuous bit of something and nothing in the first place. Arbroath weren’t complaining a minute later though - they duly converted their penalty and could now play for an hour against ten men (or at least that’s what we all thought at the time). The Jags fans (who were in the majority of the 1,333 crowd) went mental when Robert Dunn headed us back in the lead just before half time. There’s nothing quite like the bond between fans and a battling, ten man team giving their all. Yer man Orr seemed to have it in for Thistle from thereon though. Although there was hardly a bad tackle in the match we were reduced to nine men when Des McKeown was sent off on the hour mark, and then Jamie McKenzie saw red near the end, leaving Thistle to battle out the remaining minutes with eight men on the park. A scandalous refereeing performance. For Orr to have beaten us he would have needed to send Kenny Arthur off and reduce us to seven. Our Number One was a shot stopping miracle man in his prime, and this was the day that the boy became the man, most especially in the crazy last five minutes when Arbroath seemed to be camped in our box. Archie was another hero that day but, if truth be told, it was the whole team that made you proud to be a Jag. It was a momentous palaver and a half, but our eight men held out stoutly and heroically for a famous 2-1 win, much to the delight of the travelling rid n yell army, many of whom were on the pitch to celebrate at the end. Bobby Orr crapped his load and was off like a shot down the tunnel!

 

9 years, 10 months and 4 days after our Fourth Round Tynecastle defeat of 1989 we had FINALLY put a stop to the Scottish Cup rot that had set in. The victory marked the first time that we’d won a Scottish Cup tie without the need for a replay in 18 years, 9 months, 19 days. You had to go away back to the Fourth Round 3-1 win at Palmerston Park in February 1980 to find the last time that we’d done such a thing – a shameful record. The landmark win also ensured that, by the hair of our chin, we avoided the embarrassment of overtaking our warped wartime anomaly stat in the record books, just falling shy of ACTUALLY going the full ten years without a Scottish Cup win.

 

On this occasion, the stats are telling the truth. For Thistle, eight man heroics aside, the romance of the Scottish Cup had turned decidedly sour in the 1990s. The new millennium couldn’t come quickly enough…

Edited November 29, 2013 by The Jukebox Rebel

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Further factoid; didn't we play the most hours of Scottish Cup football that season as the Epic Clyde games followed including the abandoned game. We lost out to Aberdeen in the quarters, who went on to win it. Incidentally, this was a question ( which club played the most hours . . .) put to Willie Miller on a Question Of Sport later that year. He got it wrong

Aye, over 800 minutes if you look at it that way. That's nothing though, we did over 1,000 minutes in 1921!

 

 

Scottish Cup

 

PTFC Progress History 1880-1881 to 2012-2013

1 x 1st Preliminary Round exit

2 x 2nd Preliminary Round exits

1 x 4th Preliminary Round exit

22 x 1st Round exits

13 x 2nd Round exits

35 x 3rd Round exits

10 x 4th Round exits

5 x 5th Round exits

23 x Quarter Final exits

6 x Semi Final exits

Once - Runners Up

Once - Winners

 

 

Jaggy factoid # 3165

In the grand old Scottish Cup, Partick Thistle are thirty one times Quarter Finalists, eight times Semi Finalists, twice Finalists, and once Winners. To be continued…

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Scottish Cup

 

 

If you ask me, I say a Quarter Final appearance represents a good campaign. Hence I ran the query...

 

Thistle’s Quarter Final Appearances by decade

 

1880s - 1

1890s - 1

1900s - 3

1910s - 1 *

1920s - 5

1930s - 2

1940s - 1 **

1950s - 3

1960s - 2

1970s - 3

1980s - 3

1990s - 0

2000s - 6

2010s - 0

* No tournament in 5 of these seasons.

** No tournament in 7 of these seasons.

 

 

Jaggy factoid # 1587

Thistle qualified for the Quarter Finals of the Scottish Cup for eleven decades in a row between the 1880s and 1980s. The century old run came to an end in the 1990s, a miserable Scottish Cup decade in which the Jags could only muster 2 match wins in 13.

 

Jaggy factoid # 1588

Thistle followed their worst Scottish Cup decade by one of their very best, qualifying for no fewer than six Quarter Finals in the first decade of the new millennium – more than any previous decade in our history. As this thread has constantly demonstrated, this is absolutely typical Thistle behaviour. We are indomitable.

Edited December 2, 2013 by The Jukebox Rebel

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Scottish Cup

 

 

Longest club gaps between Scottish Cup trophy wins

 

1929 to 1997 - Kilmarnock - 68 years, 1 months, 18 days

1906 to 1956 - Heart of Midlothian - 49 years, 11 months, 24 days

1913 to 1957 - Falkirk - 44 years, 0 months, 12 days

1956 to 1998 - Heart of Midlothian - 42 years, 0 months, 25 days

1952 to 1991 - Motherwell - 39 years, 0 months, 29 days

1926 to 1959 - St Mirren - 33 years, 0 months, 15 days

 

Another trophy win for any of the following clubs will shoot them to the Top of this table. If Killie can do it…

 

Dumbarton (1883)

Queen's Park (1893)

Hibernian (1902)

Dundee (1910)

Partick Thistle (1921)

Morton (1922)

East Fife (1938)

[jagscast]

Thistle made it through November 2013 without picking up a single point.

 

The last time we achieved this "feat" was September 2010. We then won 3 of the 4 league games we played in October

[The Jukebox Rebel]

“We have agreed to bring forward the date for the fourth-round fixtures after research showed an attendance downturn in the traditional January slot.” ~ Campbell Ogilvie ( SFA president), January 2012.

 

Yep, that worked. Well done the blazers. Where would we be without them?

 

 

Jaggy trivia # 3276

When the final whistle blew on Thistle’s 1-0 home defeat to Aberdeen on 1st December 2013 at 1439 hours it signalled our earliest date and time stamp Scottish Cup exit in over 119 years. You have to rewind all the way back to the 22nd September 1894 to find an earlier ending to a campaign. That day we lost 3-0 away to Annbank in the Scottish Cup 2nd Preliminary Round in front of a hostile crowd of 1,000 at the appropriately named Pebble Park. A miserable day in Ayrshire was topped off by the Thistle party being chased out of town by a stone-throwing mob.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Jaggy factoid # 4826

Of a season, Thistle’s earliest Scottish Cup exit by date was on Saturday 1st September 1888 when we lost 4-2 away to Rangers in a First Round tie in front of 2,500 at Old Ibrox.

 

Jaggy factoid # 4827

Of a season, Thistle’s latest Scottish Cup action by date and time stamp was on 16th April 1979 when we lost 1-0 to Rangers in the Monday night Semi Final Replay tie in front of 32,294 at Hampden Park. Broke my young heart did that. Incidentally, both of our Scottish Cup Finals were also settled on 16th April, but with earlier kick off times than the 1979 game.

[The Sunnylaw Jag]

“We have agreed to bring forward the date for the fourth-round fixtures after research showed an attendance downturn in the traditional January slot.” ~ Campbell Ogilvie ( SFA president), January 2012.

 

Yep, that worked. Well done the blazers. Where would we be without them?

 

 

Jaggy trivia # 3276

When the final whistle blew on Thistle’s 1-0 home defeat to Aberdeen on 1st December 2013 at 1439 hours it signalled our earliest date and time stamp Scottish Cup exit in over 119 years. You have to rewind all the way back to the 22nd September 1894 to find an earlier ending to a campaign. That day we lost 3-0 away to Annbank in the Scottish Cup 2nd Preliminary Round in front of a hostile crowd of 1,000 at the appropriately named Pebble Park. A miserable day in Ayrshire was topped off by the Thistle party being chased out of town by a stone-throwing mob.

Thank Christ we didn't beat them, probably would have been lynched had we done that.

[The Sunnylaw Jag]

Being far too lazy to write any great prose about Jags history, please find attached articles on Alec Raisbeck who played for the Jags from 1909 and was a Liverpool legend too. It's interesting to see that the Jags plunder the English leagues for players in their first season at Firhill. There is also a one line reference to Glasgow Thistle , not sure if we contemplating a name change at one point.

 

http://www.shankly.c...t.aspx?aid=2758

 

In this article there is actual film of the man.

 

http://www.lfchistor...es/Article/2309

Edited December 9, 2013 by The Sunnylaw Jag

[Jaggernaut]

Being far too lazy to write any great prose about Jags history, please find attached an articles on Alec Raisbeck who played for the Jags from 1909 and was a Liverpool legend too. It's interesting to see that the Jags plunder the English leagues for players in their first season at Firhill. There is also a one line reference to Glasgow Thistle , not sure if we contemplating a name change at one point.

 

http://www.shankly.c...t.aspx?aid=2758

 

In this article there is actual film of the man.

 

http://www.lfchistor...es/Article/2309

 

It's remarkable that a century ago a 5'9" centre-half was considered "tall" !

[The Jukebox Rebel]

6,000

The sum total of regular League goals scored by Partick Thistle in our SFL / SPL / SPFL games, 1893 to date.

 

Personally speaking, I’d be raising flags, commissioning statues and awarding golden boots if it were down to me but it’s not, so the bi-decade feat will have to make do with a celebratory post on the Zatafact thread instead.

 

I shall post up a wee tribute to the six millenialists tomorrow by which time I can include the Lionel Messi Kris Doolan wonder goal via You Tube.

 

Weel done the Thistle!

 

[The Jukebox Rebel]

6000 League Goals

 

Thistle are probably the 10th Club to hit this landmark, although I can only be absolutely certain of the PTFC tally. All other club totals are from Statto, widely respected as the most accurate site for such summations. Our Premiership peers are highlighted for comparative interest.

 

All-time SFL / SPL / SPFL "Goals For" Totals

01 - 8917 - Rangers

02 - 8675 - Celtic

03 - 6935 - Heart of Midlothian

04 - 6412 - Morton

05 - 6355 - Motherwell

06 - 6336 - Hibernian

07 - 6126 - Dundee

08 - 6069 - Hamilton Academical

09 - 6025 - Clyde

10 - 6000 - Partick Thistle

11 - 5993 - Kilmarnock

12 - 5894 - Falkirk

13 - 5882 - Dumbarton

14 - 5873 - Airdrieonians (old)

15 - 5826 - Aberdeen

16 - 5788 - St Mirren

17 - 5681 - Raith Rovers

18 - 5587 - Ayr United

19 - 5561 - Queen's Park

20 - 5450 - Cowdenbeath

21 - 5347 - Albion Rovers

22 - 5326 - East Fife

23 - 5225 - Dunfermline Athletic

24 - 5215 - Dundee United

25 - 5043 - St Johnstone

26 - 4911 - Queen of the South

27 - 4887 - Stenhousemuir

28 - 4884 - Arbroath

29 - 4872 - Alloa Athletic

30 - 4794 - Forfar Athletic

31 - 4709 - East Stirlingshire

32 - 4078 - Third Lanark

33 - 3944 - Montrose

34 - 3841 - Brechin City

35 - 3683 - Stirling Albion

36 - 3184 - Stranraer

37 - 3097 - Berwick Rangers

38 - 2163 - St Bernard's

39 - 1999 - Livingston

40 - 1909 - Leith Athletic

41 - 1892 - Clydebank

42 - 1301 - King's Park

43 - 1132 - Inverness CT

44 - 1036 - Ross County

45 - 935 - Clydebank (old)

46 - 927 - Abercorn

47 - 919 - Arthurlie

48 - 791 - Peterhead

49 - 790 - Port Glasgow Ath

50 - 688 - Armadale

51 - 673 - Bo'ness

52 - 654 - Vale of Leven

53 - 639 - Elgin City

54 - 565 - Airdrieonians

55 - 481 - Ayr FC

56 - 438 - Gretna

57 - 437 - Bathgate

58 - 432 - Edinburgh City (old)

59 - 348 - Johnstone

60 - 292 - Annan Athletic

61 - 268 - Lochgelly United

62 - 260 - Nithsdale Wanderers

63 - 236 - Broxburn United

64 - 214 - Renton

65 - 180 - Helensburgh

66 - 169 - Beith

67 - 167 - Royal Albert

68 - 165 - Linthouse

69 - 159 - Peebles Rovers

70 - 156 - Mid-Annandale

71 - 154 - Clackmannan

72 - 151 - Ayr Parkhouse

73 - 147 - Dykehead (Shotts)

74 - 133 - Solway Star

74 - 133 - Cowlairs

76 - 130 - Galston

77 - 68 - Cambuslang

78 - 44 - Dundee Wanderers

79 - 40 - Dumbarton Harp

80 - 31 - Thistle

81 - 29 - Northern

As at 13:00, 8th December 2013

[The Jukebox Rebel]

6000 League Goals

 

^ Willie Paul, 188 goals (first 31.01.1885, last 23.02.1901, 107 competitive)

 

# 1 - Willie Paul

Sat-19-Aug-1893 Morton [a] W3-2 (Att: 2,000)

On a sunny day in Greenock just over 120 years ago, we got off to a flyer in our inaugural Scottish Football League match with two early goals and a third just before half-time giving us a 3 goal interval cushion. The travelling Partickonians were in dreamland! I reported the other month that Willie Paul had scored the decisive winner in our first Top Flight win against Hearts in 1897. The odds were skinny that it'd be our all-time second highest goalscorer (and first ever internationalist) who'd be the man in the right place to net Thistle's first ever SFL goal ;-)

[The Jukebox Rebel]

6000 League Goals

 

Sady, I can find no picture of George to relate.

> George Ramsay, 11 goals (first 29.08.1914, last 24.04.1916, 11 competitive)

 

# 1000 - George Ramsay

Sat-12-Feb-1916 Kilmarnock [h] W4-0 (Att: 5,000)

At a rain soaked Firhill, George Ramsay revelled in the mud with a first half hat trick. Brilliantly, it was the actual hat trick goal which registered as our 1000th in the SFL goals for column. He also bagged a 4th in the 2nd half, and in the process became the first Thistle player (as far as is known) to score all 4 of the Thistle goals in a match, capping a magical day for himself and offering some reward for the faithful who braved the uncovered Firhill terraces. One can only speculate as to the misery experienced that day by the travelling contingent from Ayrshire...

 

 

Other Thistle players who've since matched George's feat:

 

 

 

Thanks to Jagscast for teaching me how to do spoilers. Tidy.

 

George's feat of scoring all 4 of Thistle's goals in the same match has subsequently been matched on several occasions but never bettered. The challenge is permanently on for a 5 goal striker to claim an all-time club record for himself! Come on Dools!

 

All 4 goals to win a game

12.02.1916 George Ramsay vs. Kilmarnock [h] W4-0 (SFL D1)

13.10.1917 Neil Harris vs. Heart of Midlothian [h] W4-1 (SFL D1)

24.08.1937 Peter McKennan vs. Hamilton Academical [h] W4-3 (SFL D1)

20.12.1941 William Newall vs. Dumbarton [h] W4-3 (SOL)

18.10.1952 Alex Stott vs. Raith Rovers [h] W4-1 (SFL DA)

28.07.1975 Dougie Somner vs. Nairn County [a] W4-0 (Friendly)

03.04.1976 Dougie Somner vs. Forfar Athletic [h] W4-2 (Spring Cup)

26.12.1987 Billy Dodds vs. East Fife [h] W4-2 (SFL D1)

 

Somewhat intriguingly I note that John Proudfoot bagged 4 in our 6-5 friendly win at Brockville on the 2nd March 1895. The other two scorers are "unknown"... what if? Niall has undoubtedly searched many press reports in his history project. A quick look at the Herald and Scotsman reveals final score only. History does not give up her secrets easily...