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Hope I'm wrong but looks to me that the SFL Board might have agreed on a unilateral decision. As I read it that means Livingston, Queens Pk & Dunfermline, previously a no vote, can no longer be counted on and the undecided Arbroath, Brechin & Alloa have joined Dumbarton as a yes to sevco in Div 1.

Too mind numbing to comment.

If, as the vast majority wish, newco to be allowed to play in the 3rd Div. then I can still see them being in the 2nd tier the following season (13/14). Those clubs needing them to return to the top tier will get them back after a two year absence instead of the three. Those clubs/fans only wishing to see sporting integrity shouldn't be upset. I can't envisage any league set up that wouldn't be broadly welcome to most clubs and certainly most fans if the powers that be organised their jiggery pockery for season 13/14. In other words they'll get their precious sevco returned a year early and we'll have done away with one tier of senior football. Some may but I don't even see that as a compromise. .

Evidently proposed a 14 team SPL from season 13/14

Well to be purely selfish, my kids are grown up.

according to Beeb SFL clubs will receive a piece of fudge cake from Ballantyne & Longmuir today. This is the "potential structural changes" bribe for letting sevco into the 2nd tier. I'd expect details will be leaked by Thomson or usual channels fairly soon.

Yeh, I wouldn't fancy that with two or three hundred watching on.

That wee wain nearly broke Sinclair's leg. Their goalie was excellent and I liked their No 9 (some engine) despite his wrestling exhibition with Bannigan.

I think he was verbally abusing the ref and would have been red carded. Ref tried very hard to get the guy subbed and save the embarrassment. Hartley seemed awfy slow on the uptake but eventually coottoned on Lawless & Sinclair and Munn(?)

I doubt that'll happen tho' I wouldn't be surprised if no vote is taken because of clause 2. Re that, I hear Arbroath are seeking fan input. Didn't do much good with Dumbarton but might help. Still looks to me that the SFL committee are weighted towards newco/Div1 but just maybe the representatives of Alloa, Brechin & Arbroath might be swayed.

Possible benefits re loan players. I don't think Celtic would want their youngsters playing on a midden so perhaps help with the groundkeeping?

Anyone going tonight. Alloa Station is about 10 mins to ground. There's a small car park at the east end of the ground. Parking at Morrisons should be fine. It shuts at 9pm but car park open for an hour afterwards. Should be street parking as well. Synthetic pitch so heavy rain up here won't threaten game.

Hardly worth dedicating a mini compartment in your mind remembering what those two clowns have come out with. btw has Regan not got previous in the economical with the truth department? I seem to recall he was instrumental in duping foreign refs to come over to officiate when the refs went out on strike.

An old fashioned petition would be helpful.

Didn't think it had been agreed as such. Was under the impression that the players, by not signing up for sevco, were free to find other clubs meantime but there was the possibility (thought to be remote) of a settlement with sevco at a later date. It would be the players themselves and not their new clubs that would be sued by Green. The Andy Webster test case, which I can't mind the nuts and bolts, was being used as the precedent.

What vote? As I understand it Thistle have already voted no, albeit in only a straw poll taken at the end of last week's meeting. Where it gets muddier is if they vote yes to newco in the SFL, which I assume is the majority opinion amongst SFL chairmen, then as things stand it looks like newco would be invited into Div 1. by the SFL committee. I'll repeat I think there's a strong possibility PTFC have had input into a prospective SPL2. even if it's only a "count us in, boys". That's a far cry from championing a stick newco in the 1st Div campaign. I still like to think that the various clumsy statements from Firhill were due to Beattie & Co trying to clamber out a hole rather than drag us in. Like other posts I don't think the word boycott is helpful re going to Firhill or not. The varying degrees of lack of interest in watching a rigged competition will be just as harmful. Where the word boycott may be more appropriate would be in attending games at Dumbarton irrespective of Friday's outcome.

Was that where he used to keep yon Filip Sebo?

Clearly we're not going to agree even if I'll probably end up going to Firhill despite this forthcoming stitch up. Let's take a step back, CK, and tell us how you'd punt the values of this forthcoming season to fans less committed? Btw I'm not taking a cheap shot at what you say coming across as another I'm a better fan than you post but I think it's fair to say a huge chunk of Jags supporters don't go to Firhill just out of habit. They are still every bit Jags fans no better or worse than you or me. So, what's the selling points of a season playing in a division designed to see that one certain club ends up being promoted?

An admirable stance from Hibs supporters but I was under the impression that Petrie was instrumental in pointing Green towards the Div 1 cop out.

Can only repeat Tuesday night is basically the only opportunity left for anyone to effectively protest about the forthcoming stitch up three days later. We're at the home of one of the eight or seven (if Ballantyne abstains) clubs that appear to be tasked with sevco's future.

Agree. It's hard to believe that someone who was arguably our least inspiring captain could make it as a player manager but it wouldn't be that surprising if he does OK. I can't get my head round why the OP would have Murray as a most disliked player. Thought the guy could play a bit if he had decent quality players about him, which by and large he didn't with us. I'd rather criticise the fella who made Murray the captain in the first place.

that's my list as well. jim ballantyne (airdrie), Ewan Cameron (alloa), david Longmuir plus 6 directors Ken Ferguson (brechin), Gilbert Lawrie (Dumbarton), j leishman (pars), anne mckeown (arbroath), gordon mcdougall (livi) and Malcolm Mackay (Queens Pk)K

Just to echo above. We hear from McCoist that he'd prefer going into the 3rd Div to rebuild as he doesn't see how he can compete with transfer embargoes etc and other sanctions SFA will/can impose.The whole point of sticking sevco in Div 1 is so that they're only out the top flight for a season. If our three crackpot governing bodies are adopting such nefarious tactics to ensure which division they'll play in then it's surely logical to assume they'll see to it they'll be sufficiently strong enough to make playing in Div 1 no more than a formality.

Just seen the post on another thread confirming that. So I make that three for three against. Brechin, Alloa & Arbroath holding the likely balance.

More importantly one of the SFL board, alas