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Good point

I assume most on that list will be well known to Jackie McN. Two or three will be high earners that were on SPL wages (maybe one them is McLean?). McManus looks like he's carrying a bit of weight but that could be down to lack of training due to his injuries. Btw bit surprised to not see Deuchar on that list.

Doesn't appear as a Scottish wartime internationalist either. He could tho' have represented one of the other home nations (I think a Scot played for England during the war). Only capped Forsyths are Big Campbell Forsyth the goalie, Tam Forsyth and of course Our Alex.

If this is accurate you can always ask him yourself on Sunday. HERE 2nd last paragraph.

agree that's a grand offer indeed. It would be great if it went to a jags kid that's been hard done by. Maybe someone who's been let down this season in some way or other. Off the top of my head all I can mind is lennythistle's kids getting traumatised up at Forthbank but I'm sure there's been other posters on here about their kids being upset or disappointed (Gordie or Rodge I think was one case)

I believe Malone is being played mostly at centreback at Ayr and would have been a decent shout if Archie hadn't re-signed. I've always thought Malone a 100% effort guy but lacked an awful lot for a Div 1 player. I'd say McKinlay would be a far safer bet but anyway let's hope Boyle could be persuaded to stay tho' that's not too likely methinks.

Thanks for that . I did realise that was the case but I had a bang on the head last week and must have forgot.

Didn't want to put this in the McMenamin thread, as this is to do with the other end of the field, but if Boyle is for the off I think Kevin McKinlay wouldn't be that bad a replacement. Folk will remember him from a few seasons back and no doubt find that suggestion bordering on ludicrous. But, by many accounts, he's a reasonably well established left back these days. Again Kevin's another that has had a few injuries of late but if he could prove he's over that then I don't believe he'd be a bad signing. Archie would benefit to have someone with a bit of pace beside him and I don't remember KMcK lacking in that regard.

I thought, like an earlier poster, that a player suffering concussion had to take time out from the following week's fixture?

Shame on you! You should apologise this minute to TL. How would you like someone saying that about the love of your life?

I doubt whether a go it alone salary cap in Scotland would work not that there's not a lot of merit in the idea. There's a couple of other ways of toning down some of the nonsense that's gone on before and to some degree still goes on. Firstly instead of a salary cap (or in conjunction with one if a wage limitation was practical) limit clubs' player wage bills to a certain percentage of the individual club's turnover. I remember Dundee were about 10 year ago spending just over 150% of their turnover on player wages and I think Dunfermline about 130%. Result of course was the former going into administration and the Pars ripping up contracts to avoid the same outcome. I wouldn't know what percentage limit to set tho' 50% of turnover seems to me about right. I realise that this could be open to abuse (boot money etc) but most of that abuse would fall foul of the taxman and vatman. Secondly, and I'm thinking more about our division here, limit the player squad to say to no more than 15 outfield players over the age of 21 with no limit on those below that age. If in tandem with with the wage/turnover thingy it would be a logical move in any case. There's a third thing I'd like to see but doubt it's possible. That would be a return to split gates in league matches. If we went down the route of 16 club leagues we would likely have to revert to groups in the league cup to augment the drop in league games. Those group stages would be home and away and that would be an ideal place to split gates.

Condolences to David and his family.

Don't know if your meaning at Firhill or the last game at Falkirk. I think tho' you're talking about Higginbotham who's none too popular with the Falkirk fans. They think he's too flash with little substance to his game. That may be true but he does see a lot of the ball and appears to have decent delivery Btw Finnegan's the clown that tried to get Archie sent off in an earlier game. Centre forward with both a poor scoring and disciplinary record.

More dosh to spend

Perhaps that's why we had a McGowan on loan.

I don't think you are disagreeing, HJ. All I was saying was we have a fair quota of front players already signed for next season and one or two would have to go out on loan if we bring in an experienced striker. As for McMenamin I don't believe he's a spent force. I wouldn't know whether he's the ideal partner for Doolan or not (rather think he could be) but I'm fairly sure he'd chip in with a good few goals regardless. If he formed a useful double act with Doolan all the better. Expanding on HJ,s last couple of sentences, with SFL wages being forced downwards players will be looking for local clubs to cut down on travel costs, which are obviously higher these days. McMenamin is I believe a local lad.

Not so sure Accies will. St Mirren on the other hand would likely dip into their pockets even to keep hold of SPL level players or bring a few in. I would tho' imagine we'll get considerably more thru the gate than Hamilton will ever bring.

but again the real culprits are the SFL for not anticipating that loophole.

Next season we'll have Grehan, Burns, Doolan, Fraser, & Stewart (maybe) with McGrotty thereabouts. We shouldn't be short of competition for frontline places (Erskine can also play upfront). I don't think the manager (whoever he is) would turn his nose up at the chance of an experienced striker but I'd imagine it would necessitate one or maybe two of the younger players going out on loan.

Read again I said "in practical terms and on a relative basis". Even so I agree I still phrased that badly. I was actually thinking of other businesses that I've been involved in when saying that. It would be too long winded to go into further but if I had a return of say 40% on my bad debt provision it wouldn't impact into letting staff go etc. A return of only 6% would be crippling. I probably still haven't made myself much clearer You are correct in what you say in the rest of your post but even taking that into account I still feel just about anyone can comfortably take the moral high ground when talking about the way Dundee FC have conducted themselves off the pitch this season.

His recent utterances have been close to a direct opposite of his patter in his SPL days. Yorkston has undoubtedly got a split personality but deep down he's good people.

It wouldn't be bad idea at all and we've got the space to do it. I'll need to get hold of an old map of the droving routes to bring my ABERDEEN ANGUS BULLING HEIFER and my 1 YEAR OLD BLONDE BULLOCK down to Maryhill.

No confusion, DD. I'm not talking about the legality of the situation. What really gets on my goat is the SFL who don't have scaled punishment in place. As I see it at present the door is wide open for clubs to go into administration at a time where a one off points deduction would be more or less academic. It's surely the responsibility of the SFL to have rules in place to enforce fairness when the "system" works against equity. They could start by looking at soft loans.

Can't agree with you there. Nobody has the right (or at least should have the right) to rip off suppliers and service providers in the way they did. The very fact that they have crowds over double ours and thus could've directed more funds towards their debt only makes the situation even more despicable. As I read it they could now sell Harkins for instance for a sizeable amount and keep the lion share of the proceeds for themselves or alternatively retain his services and pay him a wage with money that morally should have been directed towards debtors that in turn may just have kept some company afloat or some punter in employment. Their punishment this season should have been an arbitrary points deduction, a ban from signing players plus a ban on promotion. Their real penalty should only now be being assessed. The very fact they decided to pay only 6p in the £ when by selling players or by making other obvious cut backs they could've paid their creditors more, should be taken into consideration. If common sense and decency prevailed within the SFL Dundee should be starting next season with a points deduction. If Dundee FC go on and win the league next season by effectively milking the system this season it'll just be a further nail in the coffin of Scottish football. I'd still I suppose be a Jags supporter if we did something similar but I would no longer be a season ticket holder or even a regular attender. Apologies if all this sounds sanctimonious but tho' I could maybe regularly support a team that buys success I could never support one that cheats and buys success.

Stewart may not have anything to prove to McNamara if he gets the job. The role he played in against Morton and I assume yesterday was roughly where I thought Doolan would end up playing (tho' maybe cutting in from out right instead). That was when we weren't anticipating Doolan being the main striker. Jumping the gun, I know, but I got a good feeling about us playing that system next season.