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Since the prediction polls started appearing at the top of the matchday threads this season, I think they've all ended up with "Jags win" prevailing. Like others, I often let my heart rule my head in such matters, but it currently looks like "Accies win" is the overall prediction for this match. Presumably the realisation is sinking in that we just cannot count on our team to beat lowly or mid-table teams. Sad state of affairs.
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He can ski-daddle!
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Ian McCauld doing the commentary.
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Jaggernaut replied to jagfox's topic in Main Jags forum
JLow's time at Firhill always reminded me of wannabe tories: all about appearances, spin, and spending money, but in reality ending up in fur coat and nae knickers. -
Kick-off was held up that day to let the crowd in. Looks like those who did eventually come in changed their mind.
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Jaggernaut replied to jagfox's topic in Main Jags forum
Anybody know of an effective treatment for crimson simianitis? -
Certainly looks a bit on the mad side!
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I'm guessing your alluding to biggest Jags hero of all time (well, at least in my lifetime), Dave McP. It was indeed a less than scintillating start to new manager's career, but what a season it developed into, and then the one after that! 👍
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Thanks for that information. You've corrected my memory, and now I remember feeling surprised (and disappointed) at his rather sudden disappearance at the start of that pretty amazing season. I wonder if he had any regrets in the long term about leaving when he did.
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Did Flanagan leave after we were confirmed relegatees in early 1970? I thought he'd gone earlier in the season than that. Surprised to see there doesn't appear to be an Archives article on him; he was a good wee player for us.
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Good point. Those who went to England certainly made some dosh, even if they didn't shine especially brightly. Of those who stayed in Scotland, Joe McBride went on to have a truly amazing scoring record for several clubs. And Arthur "Bomber" Duncan is a legend at Easter Road. I'm not sure if Badger (to Killie) or Somner (to St Mirren) actually did any "better" when they left us, either in terms of performance or for themselves (in the long run).
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To the earlier list we could add Joe McBride (to Motherwell and then others), Hugh Tinney (to Bury), Arthur Duncan (to Hibs). From the League Cup winning team: Jimmy Bone (to Norwich), Denis McQuade (to Hearts) And from later: Mo Johnston (To Watford), Jim Melrose (to Leicester City).
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Three on show at Tannadice yesterday: Penrice (scorer), Spittal (hit the bar), Holt. With the exception of the latter, we never got to see them really perform for us. Who are the others currently playing at a higher level? Nisbet, Docherty?....
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Jaggernaut replied to jagfox's topic in Main Jags forum
Doesn't all the play-off money get distributed across all the teams in the League? So, sack people left, right and centre ("review overheads" in your parlance).... some would argue that is a sure way to reduce our ability to generate income. Over-reliance on "stats and software": agreed. I can't help thinking that some players might well believe that they're doing a good job based on some technological outputs rather than their actual performances and the team's results. Review scouting & recruitment: some of our young teams seem to do well, so what's happening to the players? Current youngsters in the first-team squad have basically been frozen out by the manager to allow several 30-and-overs with reduced pace and motivation to play every week. Or parachuted-in players who looked good but are being found out. -
Dunfermline had a single point from nine away games until yesterday. The result was inevitable!
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Jaggernaut replied to jagfox's topic in Main Jags forum
Any manager who starts almost every reply in an interview with "Listen,...." should be avoided. -
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Jaggernaut replied to jagfox's topic in Main Jags forum
What would you do? -
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Jaggernaut replied to jagfox's topic in Main Jags forum
I think you have a point there. -
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Jaggernaut replied to jagfox's topic in Main Jags forum
They are part of the problem in what is looking increasingly like a Dads' Army team. -
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Jaggernaut replied to jagfox's topic in Main Jags forum
McBeth was our best player when he came on, and you could see he was frustrated by the lack of options opening up due to the total lack of movement up front. -
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Jaggernaut replied to jagfox's topic in Main Jags forum
Not just lineups, but also tactics. Everything we do slows the game down entirely. Predictable and completely pointless short triangular passing on the edge of the pitch, no forward movement, and our true speciality, a whole string of pointless passes along on our back line, usually half way back in our our half, and occasionally embellished with a pass back to the keeper. We're especially "good" at this when we are one, two, or even three goals behind. With the exception of Fitzpatrick and sometimes Chalmers, nobody, but nobody in our current team (the injured Milne excepted) can go past a man; in fact nobody even tries to do it. Somebody in front of them, they'll immediately check back and pass back; no consideration is even given to trying anything else. Even our wingers won't make a run ahead for a through ball, instead they run all the way back to collect a horizontal pass from midfield, leaving them having to start from a standing position, with the opposition players now all ready to snuff out any move. It's all so predictable and easy to defend against (because there's actually nothing to defend against). What has happened to the Megwa who was a real attacking livewire against us last year? He's now like a frightened rabbit, and more ready to stop and pass back than take on his man. He frequntly gets caught out of his defensive position, and yesterday failed to block two low crosses from close in, to our detriment. The core of the team is too old! They'll be older and even slower next year. A major rejuvenation of the team is required. Urgently. Dunfermline had won one point in nine away league matches until our inept charlatans gave them yesterday's belated Christmas present. Unless there are significant changes in personnel, tactics, and motivation, I fully expect us to show similar generosity to Accies. -
I started following the Jags in the mid 60s, and even then they would defeat us with boring regularity, but at least occasionally we would upset the odds and get a win. It was the same with other teams against them. Not now, though, and it hasn't happened for decades and in dozens of attempts. Although winning against them is now a distant memory for us, what's especially depressing is that occasionally other teams in their division manage to grab a win, but never by us (whenever we do feature in the same division). Maybe the two cheeks now have enormously more resources at their disposal than most other clubs compared to back then, but even so, some teams still get a shock result against them. But we don't.
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Hijack alert, but for me the most truly depressing Jags statistic is our record vs. the two ugly sisters over the past 30 years or so. Failure to win a single game against either of them in several dozens of attempts. I'd guess that it's by far the worst record of all other teams that have been in the top flight for more than a couple of seasons since the 90s. It has actually led to a state of learned helplessness, to the point that I no longer even hope that we might win against them, I sense just nothing other than defeat coming up. No other teams make me feel like that (well, except maybe Hearts in any cup competition, or maybe Dundee United in a cup or play-off.... or Livi in any crucial match.........)........
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Jaggernaut replied to jagfox's topic in Main Jags forum
Nice strip, that! -
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Jaggernaut replied to jagfox's topic in Main Jags forum
If by some miracle we got promoted, next season we would get regularly slaughtered if we tried to play at the pace and with the same predictable tactics we currently do.