Woodstock Jag Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 While we anxiously wait for word to come down from on high in David Beattie's next programme article, and the JTB form a circular firing squad, I just wondered: is anyone actually doing anything? Honved and Stolenscone are grappling with the 50/50 draw, BCG Jag is gathering names for a democratic assault on the Trust and... Well, is there anyone else doing something we can get behind? Well I'm going to Firhill, so we can all get behind the Jags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Well I'm going to Firhill, so we can all get behind the Jags I thought I'd heard it all! What a weird concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Well I'm going to Firhill, so we can all get behind the Jags It's an old trick but it just might work! I'll go too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKennan Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Is Norman Springford still involved in the club or propco as hotels was his thing According to last week's Edinburgh Evening News, Norman is semi-retired and involved in tourism promotion for the capital, as well as Stenhousemuir. I wasn't under the impression he has an interest in Propco. Happy to be corrected on that. The Herald article did nothing to assuage my fears for the future of the club. Perhaps the battle has been won now that Allan Cowan is gone and Tom Hughes now provides only accounting services for the club. I'm sure that'll make everything more palatable now that the guys in charge are our pals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKennan Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Seems some of us are getting behind the wholesale destruction of Firhill The wholesale destruction of Firhill just might save Thistle. The burden of keeping it going could kill our club. As with sacking the board, sacking the trust board or tearing the old girl down, there has to be something built in its place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I thought I'd heard it all! What a weird concept. It's a wee bit "out there" but always worth a shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKennan Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Anyone know when we'll see the big Billy Allan interview in the papers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonjag Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 (edited) The wholesale destruction of Firhill just might save Thistle. The burden of keeping it going could kill our club. As with sacking the board, sacking the trust board or tearing the old girl down, there has to be something built in its place. So to save money we destroy the stadium then build another one. A bit like me going out and torching my motor then trying to find the 15 grand to buy a new one...... oh wait.... maybe your analogy here is going out, torching my motor and buying a micro scooter. I get it now. Genius plan! Get the bunting out and let's party! Edited November 13, 2010 by hamiltonjag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Adam Spark Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 (edited) St Mirren managed to attain a sound financial footing by doing just that. As did St Johnstone. In saying that, neither sold half their stadium to club-minded investors. Edited November 13, 2010 by The Incredible Adam Spark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKennan Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 So to save money we destroy the stadium then build another one. A bit like me going out and torching my motor then trying to find the 15 grand to buy a new one...... oh wait.... maybe your analogy here is going out, torching my motor and buying a micro scooter. I get it now. Genius plan! Get the bunting out and let's party! :lol: Perhaps I should speak figuratively. Wouldn't want you burning your Bentley, HamiltonJag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKennan Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 St Mirren managed to attain a sound financial footing by doing just that. As did St Johnstone. In saying that, neither sold half their stadium to club-minded investors. I'm probably not alone in worrying that Thistle's business has become half-baked property enterprise with a services company plonked on top of it rather than football. That's where I am disconnecting from the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonjag Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 St Mirren managed to attain a sound financial footing by doing just that. As did St Johnstone. In saying that, neither sold half their stadium to club-minded investors. Supermarket buy-outs. Don't see Sainsbury's, Morrisons, Tesco, Asda or even Lidl queueing up for a development on Firhill Road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonjag Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 :lol: Perhaps I should speak figuratively. Wouldn't want you burning your Bentley, HamiltonJag. You're confusing me with £500 Million-Turnover-Kni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Adam Spark Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Don't see Oh, okay then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonjag Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Oh, okay then. WTF??? So you're saying that a big supermarket chain is interested in buying Firhill? That's the only way your St Johnston and St Mirren remark could add up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Adam Spark Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 (edited) So you're saying that a big supermarket chain is interested in buying Firhill? Eh, no. But I'm not saying it's beyounf the realms of possibility either. You're right in saying that for the comparison with the other two clubs to be exact then a supermarket chain would have to buy the ground, but I wasn't aiming for exact. Hindsight's a wonderful thing, but Firhill's an albatross than should've been cut loose years ago. What would people rather have? A crumbling 'memory-packed' edifice or a competitive team on the park? The ground is one of the things dragging the club down Emotion and sentiment are key to football, but they're over-emphasised to the detriment of progress. Edited November 13, 2010 by The Incredible Adam Spark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonjag Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Eh, no. But I'm not saying it's beyounf the realms of possibility either. You're right in saying that for the comparison with the other two clubs to be exact then a supermarket chain would have to buy the ground, but I wasn't aiming for exact. Hindsight's a wonderful thing, but Firhill's an albatross than should've been cut loose years ago. OK. Let's imagine you're head of a large supermarket chain. Are you going to buy the land Firhill sits on for your new supermarket Maryhill branch? Eh. No. Non-starter. Not going to happen ever, so your comparison with the other two clubs is a bit ummmmm daft (sorry). Whether you were going for an exact comparison or not. There is no comparison.....at all. As for Firhill being an albatross I assume you're all for a move to Scotstoun or East Kilbride (no other alternative has been suggested anywhere). In that case I would suggest you and aleeged fans like you are the albatross. Firhill forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Adam Spark Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Firhill forever. Very selfish of you. What's in store for the next generation of Thistle fans? A sh*t team playing in a sh*t ground. The stadium and the land it's situated on should have been sold off during the spate of surrounding regeneration. It's never going to realise it's value now. Firhill is the root cause of many, if not all of our problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Adam Spark Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I assume you're all for a move to Scotstoun or East Kilbride (no other alternative has been suggested anywhere). Other alternatives were suggested. You only have to read The Herald piece for mention of one. Springburn, too, was once viewed as an alternative. In fact, I'm pretty sure a prominent past poster put a plan in front of the club utilising a site in Sprigburn that was dismissed without due consideration or consultation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonjag Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Other alternatives were suggested. You only have to read The Herald piece for mention of one. Springburn, too, was once viewed as an alternative. In fact, I'm pretty sure a prominent past poster put a plan in front of the club utilising a site in Sprigburn that was dismissed without due consideration or consultation. **SHUDDER** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonjag Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Very selfish of you. What's in store for the next generation of Thistle fans? A sh*t team playing in a sh*t ground. The stadium and the land it's situated on should have been sold off during the spate of surrounding regeneration. It's never going to realise it's value now. Firhill is the root cause of many, if not all of our problems. Ever thought of supporting someone else then if we're so sh*t and Firhill's so sh*t? Not a criticism, just an observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Adam Spark Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 **SHUDDER** Ever thought of supporting someone else then if we're so sh*t and Firhill's so sh*t? Past the point of constructive debate, I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonjag Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Past the point of constructive debate, I see. It passed that point when you compared us to St Mirren and St. Johnstone. It went waaay past that point when you cherry-picked meaningless minutiae like "not just East Kilbride and Scotstoun but Springburn too" (ooooooh) It got waaaaaay waaaaaay past that point when you turned on your team and your stadium by claiming they're both "sh*t". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Adam Spark Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 you turned on your team claiming they're both "sh*t". They currently are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Adam Spark Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 but Springburn too" (ooooooh) Part of the Thistle heartland. At least it used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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