thomas Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) any further info on central to barrhead Thomas??? was on train this morning at 06.49 was on time and no probs..this service still ok?? Latest Info Line problem between Glasgow Central and Barrhead. Train services between Glasgow Central and Barrhead are being disrupted due to signalling problems. Short notice alterations and cancellations may still occur. Please note, local services between Glasgow Central and Barrhead are reduced to operate as an hourly service, departing Glasgow Central at 27 minutes past the hour from 1228, and departing Barrhead at 58 minutes past the hour from 1258. Message Received: 12:20:59 08/12/2010 And yeah i did notice the error in the update, its on the JC site, the trains depart at xx27 and the first train is at 1228 Edited December 8, 2010 by thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 I am sorry to announce that this announcement is delayed by approximately 25 minutes, please wait for further announcements. In the interest of safety customers are reminded that these bi-minutely announcements will drive you insane. Scotfail. Try travelling with Northern trains, their info service is pish poor and charge you to get updates to your phone The announcements are automatic and thanks to squire and TS they cant be switched off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JobbyMahoney Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Anybody see Newnicht last night and one of the most stupid performances by an interviewer (Gordon Brewster) that I think I've ever seen? John Swinney apologized for everybody's inconvenience and gave a perfectly lucid and reasoned account of what happened on the M8: two lorries jacknifed and so blocked access, after which much more snow than anybody anticipated fell and froze, and with all the traffic jamming up, it simply got worse and worse. Nobody's fault (except maybe for everybody in a car or van who knew that conditions might be hazardous). A classic "act of God" if ever there was one, yet all the interviewer wanted was somebody to blame, demanding that the Transport Minister had to be sacked etc etc. Terrible stuff. Indeed. Its perfectly reasonable in the 21st century for it to take two days to melt some frozen water on the busiest road in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Todays Bus services Services operating this morning are as follows. Throughout the day we would hope to confirm the addition of some more extra services or extensions to the routes shown below. Services continue to prioritise main roads due to icy conditions in side streets and housing estates. A list of all services and routes in operation as well as confirmation of those routes not operating is below split by geographical area. Glasgow Area 2 No Service 3 No Service 5 Croftfoot - City centre 6 No Service 7 No Service 8 No Service 9 City - Paisley Cross 9 Drumry - City Centre Jamaica St 11 No service 12 City Centre - Robroyston 12 City Centre - Rutherglen (not operating via Prospecthill Circus) 16 No Service 17 No Service 18 City Centre - Greenhills 19/43 No Service 20 Drumry - Ingram St 23 City - Paisley Road (Helen St) 29 No Service 31 No Service 32/33 No Service 34 No Service 38 Cowcaddens - Mearns Cross/Eastwood Toll 38 Easterhouse - Argyle Street (missing Craigend) 39 No Service 40 Easterhouse - Clydebank (Not operating via Kirkoswald, East Thompson, Hallhill or Wellhouse) 41 City Centre- Carntyne Square 42 No Service 44/44a Eaglesham - Lincoln Avenue, Knightswood (limited frequency at present) 45 Auchinarn Road to City (West Regent St) 45A No Service 46 Easterhouse - Rutherglen Police Station(greenfield) 53 No Service 54 Ashgill Rd - Penilee 54C No Service 56 Wallacewell Rd, Barlornock - Union St 57 City to Thornliebank and return via Nitshill Rd,Peat Rd, Corkerhill Rd, Paisley Rd to city 59 No Service 61 Glasgow Zoo - Acre Road, Maryhill 62 Faifley - Argyle Street 62 City Centre, Shettleston 64 No Service 65/65a No Service 66 City, Renfrew Street - East Kilbride, Calderwood Square 66 Dalmuir West - City 74 No Service 75 Milton - City Centre 75 Cowcaddens - Croftfoot 89/90 No Service 92 No Service 118 No service 119 Hunter Road(Milngavie) - Buchanan Bus Station 121 No Service 128 No Service 166 No Service 213 City Centre - Bargeddie(Glasgow Rd) 398 No Service 747 Full route X6 No Service X8 City Centre - Silverburn, Barrhead Road X78 No Service Lanarkshire 201 Petersburn - East Kilbride, Hairmyres (currently serving main roads only) 226 Blantyre - Quarter Road end 227 No service 228 No service 229 No service 230 No service 231 Lanark - Hamilton (very limited frequency) 240 City Centre - Lanark, Carluke, Wishaw (not operating to Pather) 241 Coltness - Motherwell 242 Holytown - Larkhall via Law Village 245 no service 255 Newarthill - Glasgow (not operating to Newarthill housing estate) 263 Hamilton - Glasgow 267 Newmains - Glasgow X1 Low waters Road, Hamilton - Glasgow X11 Newmains - Glasgow Cumbernauld Area 36 Crowood - City Centre (via Stepps) 343 Full route X2 Balloch Roundabout - City Centre (main roads only) X3/X4/X5 Abronhill - City centre (main roads only) X37/X39 No service X80 Abronhill - City centre Kirkintilloch Area 27 City Centre - Kilsyth 27a City Centre - Alexander Ave(Twecher) 88 Kirkintilloch(Catherine St) - City Centre X85 Whitefield - City Centre X87 Kirkintilloch - City Centre Dumbarton Area 81 Operating at reduced frequency 92 No service 140 No service 204 Balloch - City 206 Westcliff to Balloch 208 Silverton to Brucehill 215 Balloch to City 216 Helensburgh to City 204a/215a Normal route Trains Poor weather conditions are causing disruption throughout Scotland. Trains are not running on the following routes. Where replacement buses are running, this cannot be guaranteed because of poor road conditions: * Motherwell - Cumbernauld * Glasgow Central - Edinburgh via Shotts: other trains are available between Glasgow Queen Street and Edinburgh via Falkirk * Dalmuir - Bellgrove - Springburn: other trains are available between Dalmuir and Bellgrove * Milngavie - High Street: other trains are available between Westerton and High Street * Dalmuir - Larkhall: other trains are available between Dalmuir and Hamilton Central * Glasgow Queen Street - Anniesland via Maryhill: Glasgow Central and Anniesland via Partick trains should be used * Glasgow Queen Street - Dunblane: Glasgow Queen Street – Aberdeen trains should be used which call additionally at Dunblane * Glasgow Queen Street - Cumbernauld * Glasgow Queen Street - Falkirk Grahamston * Glasgow Queen Street – Alloa: Glasgow Queen Street - Aberdeen trains should be used for Stirling. * Glasgow Queen Street - Edinburgh: trains should be used for Bishopbriggs, Lenzie and Croy) * Glasgow Queen Street – Inverness (other then the 09:18 Inverness to Glasgow Queen Street): Glasgow Queen Street – Aberdeen trains can be used between Glasgow and Perth and Edinburgh – Inverness trains can be used between Perth and Inverness. * Glasgow Central - Whifflet * Glasgow Central - Cathcart (Cathcart Circle services) * Edinburgh – Perth: Edinburgh – Inverness trains should be used * Edinburgh - Dunblane * Edinburgh – Dundee: Edinburgh – Aberdeen trains should be used * Edinburgh - Bathgate * Fife Circle (Newcraighall – Inverkeithing & Edinburgh – Markinch, Cowdenbeath, Glenrothes) * Inverness - Kyle of Lochalsh * Inverness – Wick * Motherwell - Lanark: Replacement buses are running. At Carluke they will drop off/pick up at the bus stop on the main road at the top of the hill, and at Wishaw they will drop off/pick up at the Sports Centre in Alexandra Road * Motherwell – Coatbridge Central * Glasgow Queen Street and Oban / Fort William / Mallaig: Buses are running An amended train service is running on the following routes. Trains that are running are subject to alterations and delays of up to 40 minutes. * Glasgow Queen Street - Edinburgh via Falkirk: A half-hourly train service will run, departing at 00 and 30 minutes past each hour from both Glasgow and Edinburgh. * Glasgow Central - Gourock: Trains at 25 minutes past each hour from Glasgow and at 23 minutes past each hour from Gourock will not run. Other train services are running. * Glasgow Central - Paisley Canal: An hourly train service will run, departing from Glasgow Central at 07 minutes past each hour, and from Paisley Canal at 30 minutes past each hour. * Glasgow Central - Ardrossan Harbour: Trains will be suspended, except for trains which connect with ferry services (these are the trains from Glasgow Central at 08:34, 11:15, 14:15 and 16:50, and from Ardrossan Harbour at 09:39, 12:28, 15:28 and 18:00). * Glasgow Central - Ayr: Trains between Glasgow Central and Ayr, departing Glasgow Central on the hour and at 30 minutes past each hour, and departing Ayr at 13 and 43 minutes past the hour, will call additionally at all stations between Johnstone and Kilwinning. * Glasgow Queen Street - Aberdeen: A service will run every two hours (trains will call additionally at Dunblane and Stirling). * Edinburgh - Aberdeen: A service will run every two hours (trains will call additionally at: Inverkeithing, Kirkcaldy, Markinch, Ladybank, Cupars and Leuchars). * Dumbarton Central - Balloch: Services between Airdrie and Balloch will run only between Dumbarton Central and Balloch, departing Balloch at 23 and 53 minutes past the hour, and departing Dumbarton Central at 01 and 31 minutes past the hour Sleeper services: On Thursday 9 December, the London Euston to Edinburgh and the Fort William to London Euston sleeper trains have been cancelled. Customers who hold tickets for travel aboard these Sleeper services should call ScotRail Customer Relations on 0845 601 5929 for more information or to apply for a full ticket refund. Ticket Acceptance Tickets for ScotRail, East Coast and CrossCountry services will be accepted for travel on any of these three train operators' services in the North East of England and Scotland. To find out whether this will impact your journey and to get alternative options planned for you, please use the National Rail Enquiries real time Journey Planner, or call TrainTracker on 0871 200 49 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Trains Poor weather conditions are causing disruption throughout Scotland. Trains are not running on the following routes. Where replacement buses are running, this cannot be guaranteed because of poor road conditions: * Motherwell - Cumbernauld * Glasgow Central - Edinburgh via Shotts: other trains are available between Glasgow Queen Street and Edinburgh via Falkirk * Dalmuir - Bellgrove - Springburn: other trains are available between Dalmuir and Bellgrove * Milngavie - High Street: other trains are available between Westerton and High Street * Dalmuir - Larkhall: other trains are available between Dalmuir and Hamilton Central * Glasgow Queen Street - Anniesland via Maryhill: Glasgow Central and Anniesland via Partick trains should be used * Glasgow Queen Street - Dunblane: Glasgow Queen Street – Aberdeen trains should be used which call additionally at Dunblane * Glasgow Queen Street - Cumbernauld * Glasgow Queen Street - Falkirk Grahamston * Glasgow Queen Street – Alloa: Glasgow Queen Street - Aberdeen trains should be used for Stirling. * Glasgow Queen Street - Edinburgh: trains should be used for Bishopbriggs, Lenzie and Croy) * Glasgow Queen Street – Inverness (other then the 09:18 Inverness to Glasgow Queen Street): Glasgow Queen Street – Aberdeen trains can be used between Glasgow and Perth and Edinburgh – Inverness trains can be used between Perth and Inverness. * Glasgow Central - Whifflet * Glasgow Central - Cathcart (Cathcart Circle services) * Edinburgh – Perth: Edinburgh – Inverness trains should be used * Edinburgh - Dunblane * Edinburgh – Dundee: Edinburgh – Aberdeen trains should be used * Edinburgh - Bathgate * Fife Circle (Newcraighall – Inverkeithing & Edinburgh – Markinch, Cowdenbeath, Glenrothes) * Inverness - Kyle of Lochalsh * Inverness – Wick * Motherwell - Lanark: Replacement buses are running. At Carluke they will drop off/pick up at the bus stop on the main road at the top of the hill, and at Wishaw they will drop off/pick up at the Sports Centre in Alexandra Road * Motherwell – Coatbridge Central * Glasgow Queen Street and Oban / Fort William / Mallaig: Buses are running An amended train service is running on the following routes. Trains that are running are subject to alterations and delays of up to 40 minutes. * Glasgow Queen Street - Edinburgh via Falkirk: A half-hourly train service will run, departing at 00 and 30 minutes past each hour from both Glasgow and Edinburgh. * Glasgow Central - Gourock: Trains at 25 minutes past each hour from Glasgow and at 23 minutes past each hour from Gourock will not run. Other train services are running. * Glasgow Central - Paisley Canal: An hourly train service will run, departing from Glasgow Central at 07 minutes past each hour, and from Paisley Canal at 30 minutes past each hour. * Glasgow Central - Ardrossan Harbour: Trains will be suspended, except for trains which connect with ferry services (these are the trains from Glasgow Central at 08:34, 11:15, 14:15 and 16:50, and from Ardrossan Harbour at 09:39, 12:28, 15:28 and 18:00). * Glasgow Central - Ayr: Trains between Glasgow Central and Ayr, departing Glasgow Central on the hour and at 30 minutes past each hour, and departing Ayr at 13 and 43 minutes past the hour, will call additionally at all stations between Johnstone and Kilwinning. * Glasgow Queen Street - Aberdeen: A service will run every two hours (trains will call additionally at Dunblane and Stirling). * Edinburgh - Aberdeen: A service will run every two hours (trains will call additionally at: Inverkeithing, Kirkcaldy, Markinch, Ladybank, Cupars and Leuchars). * Dumbarton Central - Balloch: Services between Airdrie and Balloch will run only between Dumbarton Central and Balloch, departing Balloch at 23 and 53 minutes past the hour, and departing Dumbarton Central at 01 and 31 minutes past the hour Sleeper services: On Thursday 9 December, the London Euston to Edinburgh and the Fort William to London Euston sleeper trains have been cancelled. Customers who hold tickets for travel aboard these Sleeper services should call ScotRail Customer Relations on 0845 601 5929 for more information or to apply for a full ticket refund. Ticket Acceptance Tickets for ScotRail, East Coast and CrossCountry services will be accepted for travel on any of these three train operators' services in the North East of England and Scotland. To find out whether this will impact your journey and to get alternative options planned for you, please use the National Rail Enquiries real time Journey Planner, or call TrainTracker on 0871 200 49 50. All very useful, many thanks. Tried to make it to Glasgow from Stirling by train this morning, but impossible to do so anywhere near the time I needed to be there. It's a mild morning by any winter standards, yet still absolute chaos on the railways. What an embarrassment for a so-called developed country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Scotrail are an utter joke. Took me nearly 90 mins to get into town today to discover they had a queuing system for the Edinburgh trains which was snaking its way to George Sq. Decided to head back to Westerton , went to lower level told that trains were running to there and one due in 5 mins. Yeah right. 2 hours later I got home via an underground trip to Partick which felt like it was a Sunday and another 45 mins wait at Partick First Bus arent much better since we are pretty much cut off now if you dont drive. How come other countries can cope with this weather but as soon as it happens the whole infrastructure just falls apart around us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 The main problem the units are having is frozen brakes, as they are air flow brakes With the snow on the tracks there is still risk of points failing as the snow drops into the blades when they shift, then when the blades shift back it compacts the snow and keeps doing this until the points stop mid flow, then the race is on to get NR to the failure, and that is a problem in itself, as they may be mioles away and given the state of the roads the respons time may be a lot longer As for the queueing system, they are putting so many onto each set as they still have to pick up at the intermediate stations, IMHO they should keep it 4 an hour and run express to haymarket only as well as the all stops, but then again thats using your brain and we all know senior managers arent paid to do this, they hide in warm offices as the station staff take all the shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 The main problem the units are having is frozen brakes, as they are air flow brakes With the snow on the tracks there is still risk of points failing as the snow drops into the blades when they shift, then when the blades shift back it compacts the snow and keeps doing this until the points stop mid flow, then the race is on to get NR to the failure, and that is a problem in itself, as they may be mioles away and given the state of the roads the respons time may be a lot longer As for the queueing system, they are putting so many onto each set as they still have to pick up at the intermediate stations, IMHO they should keep it 4 an hour and run express to haymarket only as well as the all stops, but then again thats using your brain and we all know senior managers arent paid to do this, they hide in warm offices as the station staff take all the shit According to one of the papers yesterday or the day before, our trains are the cheapest option, in other words designed to work in Mediterranean types of climate, rather than in climates with regular freezing temperatures and snow. One thing is certain: whether it's leaves, snow, or ice; the equipment just isn't up to the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 According to one of the papers yesterday or the day before, our trains are the cheapest option, in other words designed to work in Mediterranean types of climate, rather than in climates with regular freezing temperatures and snow. One thing is certain: whether it's leaves, snow, or ice; the equipment just isn't up to the job. Depends on what paper and whether it was the whole of the UK, the english have some howling sets....class 140/141/142/144 and the bubble car 153s, altho some of the trains were built decades ago so possibly not properly set up for this severe weather. Trains in ScotRail Network Electrics 314 - 1979, built in UK, the grandaddy of the fleet 318 - 1985, built in UK, introduced when the ayr lines got electrified 334 - 2001, built in France - these are unreliable due to being french!! 380 - 2010, built in Germany, tested in the black forest, so hopefully once the issues are resolved may be a lot better than 334s Diesels 156 - 1987, built in UK, the mainstay of the diesel fleet 158 - 1989, built in UK, not bad, an upgrade of the 156s 170 - 1998, built in UK by bombardier. Problems with diesel freezing, brakes freezing etc are a pain in the @rse Personally i hate the 334s as they are so cr@p, also i think the 156s would severely need an overhaul with improved heating and full sealed windows like the 158s/170s, which may make them warmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicofan Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 first bus are an absolute feckin joke there website stated buses were running as normal up in cumbernauld..what a load a shegite...an hour and half i stood last night..ended up having to go back to work and getting someone to give me a lift..now got a feckin cold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 first bus are an absolute feckin joke there website stated buses were running as normal up in cumbernauld..what a load a shegite...an hour and half i stood last night..ended up having to go back to work and getting someone to give me a lift..now got a feckin cold have some of and then do this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicofan Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 have some of and then do this although lemsips really are crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 although lemsips really are crap lemsips are particularly effective when taken nasally thought a rolled up tenner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicofan Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 lemsips are particularly effective when taken nasally thought a rolled up tenner! ah bu gger..i have drinking the god damn powder...makes more sense actually clear your nose by sniffing lemsip..that could be their new advert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 ah bu gger..i have drinking the god damn powder...makes more sense actually clear your nose by sniffing lemsip..that could be their new advert each sachet makes 4 quality lines (er, so I'm told!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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