potty trained Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 It seems an eternity (in footballing terms at least, since the fans survey was issued. February to be exact, yet not much seems to have come of it. Yesterday i received an email from our Chairman, David Beattie, which contained the following: When you enter the Stadium on Saturday, we will be handing out flyers. We require you to register your name and details on the website, and once you do this you will be entered into a prize draw. The winner will receive free hospitality for 6 people. To buy tickets please call 0871 402 1971. Is this just a prize draw? Or are the flyers, being handed out, part of a bigger agenda? Maybe part of some new fund raising scheme to compete with or replace the Centenary Fund? In the same week as the fans survey was released, Beattie was in The Glaswegian telling us an annoucement would be made in the coming months about a new fund raising venture. Still nothing has been announced. Even before that, December 2010, Mr Beattie told us prior to the Ross County game: On the positive side - we will be launching a unique initiative that all fans and supporters can get behind the club – so watch this space – and be ready to act to ensure the long-term future of your club. When it finally comes, i just hope i'm not proved right, when i said a few weeks ago on the "strip leak" thread... once our marketing specialists get round to something, it will be some poxy membership card with a discount on it or something. some half hearted sh!t that does nothing to inspire the fan base. Heaven forbid the powers that be fob us off with another excuse for what is basically a begging letter and actually come up with something that fills us with enthusiasm... God knows they've had long enough to come up with something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lothian jag Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 (edited) It seems an eternity (in footballing terms at least, since the fans survey was issued. February to be exact, yet not much seems to have come of it. Yesterday i received an email from our Chairman, David Beattie, which contained the following: Is this just a prize draw? Or are the flyers, being handed out, part of a bigger agenda? Maybe part of some new fund raising scheme to compete with or replace the Centenary Fund? In the same week as the fans survey was released, Beattie was in The Glaswegian telling us an annoucement would be made in the coming months about a new fund raising venture. Still nothing has been announced. Even before that, December 2010, Mr Beattie told us prior to the Ross County game: On the positive side - we will be launching a unique initiative that all fans and supporters can get behind the club – so watch this space – and be ready to act to ensure the long-term future of your club. When it finally comes, i just hope i'm not proved right, when i said a few weeks ago on the "strip leak" thread... once our marketing specialists get round to something, it will be some poxy membership card with a discount on it or something. some half hearted sh!t that does nothing to inspire the fan base. Heaven forbid the powers that be fob us off with another excuse for what is basically a begging letter and actually come up with something that fills us with enthusiasm... God knows they've had long enough to come up with something! So what happens if your not at the game on Saturday, do you not get a chance to enter the draw? or is it just a cunning plan to entice more people to turn up on Saturday? Edited July 14, 2011 by east lothian jag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkey Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 (edited) I imagine the club is finally waking up to the need to have a comprehensive database of fans information. And prize draws like this are on of the best way of getting this information. Edited July 14, 2011 by Munkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACAB Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 The only fact I can glean from the original post is that an e-mail was sent by the club with a message from the Chairman. Although not having not read the full contents, from the quote that is given it would seem to me to be that flyers are going to be handed out on Saturday inviting people to register their details on the website with a chance to win a hospitality package for 6. The addition of the line "to buy tickets etc.etc." suggests, to me, that the flyers may be about hospitality packages as why would you buy a ticket for a raffle when you can register your details. Until I see a flyer I don't know what it's about but I applaud any positive initiative that our Club undertakes. We all should see it as our duty to keep the custodians of our Club on their toes, however the rest of the original post is guesswork, speculation, conjecture and bordering on paranoia. I agree that it's been a while since the survey was carried out but I can't see how an innocent e-mail from the club acts as a catalyst for a rant at David Beattie. Let's see what's in the flyer and give all proposals/initiatives a fair hearing before they are dismissed out of hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted July 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 I know what you mean ACAB, the inclusion of the email quote was purely as it had reminded me of the fact that there hadn't been any communication regarding the forever promised but never discussed, fund raising venture. i'm sure you'll agree at our level, communication is important and it can be very frustrating when you see teams like Stirling Albion have some great PR going on over the last year or so in the papers etc. Maybe if we had someone like Paul Goodwin handling our PR, we would see a vast improvement. As a Thistle fan, i'm sure he's be happy to help us turn around the ongoing PR disaster that seems to be PTFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 It seems an eternity (in footballing terms at least, since the fans survey was issued. February to be exact, yet not much seems to have come of it. Yesterday i received an email from our Chairman, David Beattie, which contained the following: Is this just a prize draw? Or are the flyers, being handed out, part of a bigger agenda? Maybe part of some new fund raising scheme to compete with or replace the Centenary Fund? In the same week as the fans survey was released, Beattie was in The Glaswegian telling us an annoucement would be made in the coming months about a new fund raising venture. Still nothing has been announced. Even before that, December 2010, Mr Beattie told us prior to the Ross County game: On the positive side - we will be launching a unique initiative that all fans and supporters can get behind the club – so watch this space – and be ready to act to ensure the long-term future of your club. When it finally comes, i just hope i'm not proved right, when i said a few weeks ago on the "strip leak" thread... once our marketing specialists get round to something, it will be some poxy membership card with a discount on it or something. some half hearted sh!t that does nothing to inspire the fan base. Heaven forbid the powers that be fob us off with another excuse for what is basically a begging letter and actually come up with something that fills us with enthusiasm... God knows they've had long enough to come up with something! As I never received this e-mail would it be possible for you to copy & paste it here please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryHell Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 It might not be entirely clear from the OP, but i assumed that DB was advising Mr Trained how he could buy tickets for the game on Saturday, where there will be flyers handed out for a raffle. It does seem completely unrelated to the 'Fans Ititiative' promised which i'll conceed is long overdue. Still i'd much rather it be late and worthwhile, than hurried and useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Didn't David Beattie say in the programme notes that the fan initiative would be delayed as it was to be changed due to responses in the fans survey? It may even have been in the last programme of the season alongside the survey results. If anything at least they seem to be asking questions and listening instead of ploughing on ahead with an initiative that may not have been something the support would fully get behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted July 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 As I never received this e-mail would it be possible for you to copy & paste it here please? Dear Thistle Supporter, I just wanted to write to you and say a big thank you for your continued support of our club. On July 16th we play Celtic in a pre-season friendly. This is the first time we’ve taken on Celtic in seven years and forty years after defeating them 4-1 to win the 1971 League Cup. It’s been both a busy and exciting time for the club. We’ve just launched our new home strip and announced our new shirt sponsor McBee the soft drinks company. For the match on the 16th, we’ve priced the tickets at a competitive rate - £10.00 for an adult and £5.00 for children under the age 16 years, students and Senior Citizens. When you enter the Stadium on Saturday, we will be handing out flyers. We require you to register your name and details on the website, and once you do this you will be entered into a prize draw. The winner will receive free hospitality for 6 people. To buy tickets please call 0871 402 1971. David Beattie Chairman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C.G. JAG Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 We're all hoping that there is a positive and inspiring initiative coming that will address the funding problems at the Club. But if I understand the OP correctly, he is simply concerned that things seem to be taking quite a bit of time. The new regime appears to be a bit behind schedule - remember how the new Board (and the question of a fan's rep) was to be all dealt with by December last year? I think one thing that's colouring the new regime here is, as the OP suggests, lengthy delays. If those delays are because they have been taking the time to really listen to the fans and get the detail and planning right then that will all be for the good. But if it's just more of the same, then that will be worrying. We wait with bated breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Ann Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Dear Thistle Supporter, I just wanted to write to you and say a big thank you for your continued support of our club. On July 16th we play Celtic in a pre-season friendly. This is the first time we’ve taken on Celtic in seven years and forty years after defeating them 4-1 to win the 1971 League Cup. It’s been both a busy and exciting time for the club. We’ve just launched our new home strip and announced our new shirt sponsor McBee the soft drinks company. For the match on the 16th, we’ve priced the tickets at a competitive rate - £10.00 for an adult and £5.00 for children under the age 16 years, students and Senior Citizens. When you enter the Stadium on Saturday, we will be handing out flyers. We require you to register your name and details on the website, and once you do this you will be entered into a prize draw. The winner will receive free hospitality for 6 people. To buy tickets please call 0871 402 1971. David Beattie Chairman did it really say 'mcbee' or is that your typo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 did it really say 'mcbee' or is that your typo? That's what I was wondering. Very worrying if our 'chairman' can't spell our sponsors name correctly. MacB must be thrilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vom Itorium Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Dear Thistle Supporter, I just wanted to write to you and say a big thank you for your continued support of our club. On July 16th we play Celtic in a pre-season friendly. This is the first time we’ve taken on Celtic in seven years and forty years after defeating them 4-1 to win the 1971 League Cup. It’s been both a busy and exciting time for the club. We’ve just launched our new home strip and announced our new shirt sponsor McBee the soft drinks company. For the match on the 16th, we’ve priced the tickets at a competitive rate - £10.00 for an adult and £5.00 for children under the age 16 years, students and Senior Citizens. When you enter the Stadium on Saturday, we will be handing out flyers. We require you to register your name and details on the website, and once you do this you will be entered into a prize draw. The winner will receive free hospitality for 6 people. To buy tickets please call 0871 402 1971. David Beattie Chairman I sincerely hope that isn't a genuine email as if it is our 'Chairman' doesn't even know the correct name of our sponsor and is putting that out there to fans!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted July 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Didn't David Beattie say in the programme notes that the fan initiative would be delayed as it was to be changed due to responses in the fans survey? It may even have been in the last programme of the season alongside the survey results. If anything at least they seem to be asking questions and listening instead of ploughing on ahead with an initiative that may not have been something the support would fully get behind. Think this is the paragraph you mean? You will read elsewhere some of the results of the fans’ survey with a fuller report appearing on the Club’s website later today. The survey proved to be invaluable and it is based on the results of that survey that we have decided to launch a Membership Scheme. We are still trying to flesh out the precise details of this scheme but it will operate very closely with the already successful Centenary Fund but with much greater benefits and exclusive offers for the members. Doesn't say that the original plan, discussed in December 2010 has been delayed or changed, just that they are starting a new scheme based on the results of the survey. I would be disappointed if the marketing teams original plan was shelved for a "membership card" and thats all the Club are going to come up with to start generating substantial funds to allow us to contribute to the Club and see us progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven H Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) I would be disappointed if the marketing teams original plan was shelved for a "membership card" and thats all the Club are going to come up with to start generating substantial funds to allow us to contribute to the Club and see us progress. It could be an attempt by the Cclub to take more of the fundraising 'powers' from the JT after the relative success of the CF. Wouldn't mind this to be honest, the JT seem reluctant to change and overly quiet of late, so hopefully your fears do not come to fruition...especially after this length of time getting it up and running. Edited to add: Maybe there will be an offer of X% off Greaves stuff included in the membership deal and they are waiting until after the rush of sales on both new strips Edited July 15, 2011 by Steven H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 I would be disappointed if the marketing teams original plan was shelved for a "membership card" and thats all the Club are going to come up with to start generating substantial funds to allow us to contribute to the Club and see us progress. If done right it wouldn't be a bad thing. When DB was looking for ideas I sent one on to him with a plan to do an official supporters club , would work alongside the JT or TBH replace it as its useless in its current form. I had suggested something like - £20 a year (discounted by £10 for season ticket holders) - annual membership card - weekly email from the club - quarterly postal contact from the club with news/offers etc - pin badge each year To me its not about trying to milk fans for more cash its about getting more fans interested in the club and keeping them informed about what is going on. If you get people interested then they are more likely to attend games (although in a lot of cases it will be the due hard fans who will subscribe to this kind of thing) I think its a good thing the club is emailing people , wish they would do it more and actually set up a proper mailing list people can subscribe to , then get a professional setup on the mail before it is sent out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted July 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Not saying it would be a bad thing. Something simple would be a good thing, like an adult version of the kids club. Instead of getting in to get to meet the players after the game, you get invited to meet the manager/board/player nights for example. But if thats the ONLY thing the marketing team can come up with, after nearly a year working on it, to pull us out the financial sh!t... then we are truely fcked! Remember, we need something thats going to plug 100k, same as last year. A membership card is not going to do that, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 When did David Beattie officially become Chairman? I thought he was acting Chair hence the Chairman page in the programme became "From the Boardroom"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vom Itorium Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 It could be an attempt by the Cclub to take more of the fundraising 'powers' from the JT after the relative success of the CF. Wouldn't mind this to be honest, the JT seem reluctant to change and overly quiet of late, so hopefully your fears do not come to fruition...especially after this length of time getting it up and running. Edited to add: Maybe there will be an offer of X% off Greaves stuff included in the membership deal and they are waiting until after the rush of sales on both new strips I'm afraid the words 'powers' and 'JT' just don't sit together in the slightest. The JT's goosed. In fact do they even have any elected representatives any more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German Jag Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 If done right it wouldn't be a bad thing. When DB was looking for ideas I sent one on to him with a plan to do an official supporters club , would work alongside the JT or TBH replace it as its useless in its current form. I had suggested something like - £20 a year (discounted by £10 for season ticket holders) - annual membership card - weekly email from the club - quarterly postal contact from the club with news/offers etc - pin badge each year To me its not about trying to milk fans for more cash its about getting more fans interested in the club and keeping them informed about what is going on. If you get people interested then they are more likely to attend games (although in a lot of cases it will be the due hard fans who will subscribe to this kind of thing) I think its a good thing the club is emailing people , wish they would do it more and actually set up a proper mailing list people can subscribe to , then get a professional setup on the mail before it is sent out And at the same time they learn something about the Data Protection Act, and don't just blindly send out E-Mails with the full contents of one of the office PCs address-books. Have had a few mails from Ami and also Alan Cowan where all other recipients have been visible. No names, just the addresses but you don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to work out a fair few of them. Please learn to use the bcc function!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven H Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 I'm afraid the words 'powers' and 'JT' just don't sit together in the slightest. The JT's goosed. In fact do they even have any elected representatives any more? Don't be afraid, that's the reason I put power in inverted commas. Hasn't been any elected representatives in quite a while...Don't think the last group were elected, not sure about the group before tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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