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As far as I'm concerned a no vote will be sufficient. Speaking only for myself but being scunnered with the way our club has been run goes with the territory. In other words I'm now basically immune to shenanigans. I've got a rough idea how Beattie & Co dug this hole (the "why" tho' a bit less easy to follow) and if I'm right then he's got my limited sympathy for this mess. It's better I just leave it like that for now. This rangers/sevco business has its own crazy dynamic and very few have predicted everything to date so it's fair to presume we're in for more largely unforeseen detours in the next week or so. One thing I will predict is that those forecasters of financial meltdown, Doncaster, Regan & Longmuir will still be drawing their fat salaries.

Don't want to talk of individuals and their specific employment details but in general i think it's no bad thing if folk working at Firhill were paid elsewhere.

Tut tut, it's "Et tu, Brute"

Agree, tho' last thing we need just now is some half arsed operation posing as a serious fans supporters group.

The irony there being that those two clubs have most to gain by voting against newco. Obviously Airdrie get promoted but also Cowden's chances of staying up would be greatly enhanced if Airdrie were in the same league.

I haven't heard the result of the newco fighting fund fans (or whatever they're called) survey. It's widely reported that even that lot are are against the second tier proposal.

Not my place, I know, but you might as well wait till after the feckin' June draw gets made. I'd have said earlier that it was too close to call but yes I detect a slight leaning that way on here

Spain were sensational tonight. Clearly one game too many for Italy but their opponents were virtually unplayable.

I understand it's 23 votes but possibly less if there's abstentions where the requirement for approval is 75%. My fear is the 2nd & 3rd Div clubs may be getting pressurised into a yes vote. On face value they'd be daft to turn up the opportunity of revenue from newco visits but they might be getting fed a mixture of disinformation re policing costs and minimum ground requirement, H & S issues etc. I'm no doubt being a tad paranoid but you've got think that SFA/SPL/SFL would know how very low their chances of this getting approval is and that leads me to feel there might be something up their sleeve.

We've actually had fair amount of press coverage akin to "....and Partick Thistle fans have threatened a season ticket boycott if this blah blah". Also about three or four erroneous mentions aligning us with Morton, Raith & Falkirk re voting intentions.

Could be an untapped market of youngsters appearing on the horizon shortly. Normally speaking those youngsters, fed by a likelihood of relative success and an occasional brush with European football, would be sucked into following a certain team from the same city, Our chances of tapping into this source would be greatly enhanced if this other club's fortunes were played out in the lower leagues for a year or two. Tell that to JJ.

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Excellent response from Clyde. Just to add to our embarrassment Beattie's latest communique has made its way on to the STV website.

Good point, Will.

Fair enough but what is there to discuss?

Bump!!

That'll be you off to march to Hampden, then?

Maybe you missed the earlier "we would make use of every avenue open to us to seek the views of, and canvas opinion from, our supporters to help us better formulate a position that promotes the best interests of Partick Thistle Football Club and Scottish Football as a whole." I must have blinked and missed the opinion canvassing.

I'm surprised Barry Hearn hasn't appeared on the scene by now. At this moment in time a breakaway SPL 2 would consist of sevco 1690 Partick Thistle RIP Ferranti Donald Findlay Select Dumbarton One Stand Clydebank Excelsior QoS, Arbroath, Ayr, Stenny BBC Alba would turn down the chance to broadcast that lot.

Turn that round. Do you seriously believe newco starting out in the 1st Division is adequate punishment?

Doing a wonderful job of that so far.

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You're missing the point of the latest statement. It's too complex an issue.

I wish I shared your confidence.

No it's ******* not. It only becomes complex when you entertain the possibility of newco starting life at least two leagues above the level where they should begin. Five other clubs in our division appear to have been able to work that out..