Jaggernaut

Honestly, why not make it free for everybody? It would certainly be a unique selling point, and surely we could get sponsorship for that?

Don't forget the asylum seekers! And those who might be feeling a bit under the weather.....

Actually, the notion that if you're a Jag, then you're a Jag for life, doesn't seem to ring true. When I was a teenager there were tons of us from Drumchapel who used to follow Thistle everywhere; there would sometimes be 15-20 of us on the old Whiteinch bus before it even got out of the Drum. Nowadays, at best, I see one or two of those guys at matches once or twice a season. I know that many of those supporters from long ago just abandoned football for one reason or another, and they've probably not been to a match of any kind for 30 years. Although they might still call themselves Jags when pushed, unfortunately they're not supporters, and I doubt whether they'd bother too much if another big financial crisis came around. Dammit, as I'm typing this I now wish I was heading to San Starko, instead of being cooped up at work.

I'll be biting my nails at the computer for this one.

Bye.

That should do the trick as far as getting the game on goes. Do I stay or do I go now......

Anybody else notice that Brown McMaster's tactic seems to be to talk talk talk talk talk without ever shutting the f*ck up, and basically just grinding people into submission? Who are the Asian couple proudly pictured with McMaster in front of the rubble?

Some show, especially the 3-D movies and the giant inflatable kangaroo! They're getting more like the real thing each time I see them.

I'm now coming around to that way of thinking.

Where are the 2,000 seats that will be removed, according the article? Do they mean the excellent main stand, or is the JH stand to be mutilated as well?

I usually enjoy days out to Kirkcaldy, but having seen the forecast, it's going to be a last-minute decision about whether or not to head there tomorrow.

This post and WJ's are a great example of how you can show what you want with statistics! Both of you should work for political parties!

Some excellent points there. But I'd take issue with any suggestion that a 16-team league would somehow have more meaningless games than a 10- or 12-team league where teams play each other 4 times each season. It's only the h*ns or tims who are likely to win the league whatever the format, so at least 16 or even 18 teams would give some novelty over 4 Motherwell-Killie matches (for example) which are as meaningless as you can get.

Some of the stuff on here is just as bad as the OF.

No. But then I believe that just about everything (in this country) is overpriced: food, travel, accommodation, clothes, even drink. So football is not really that different.

Combined, those two clips show as impressive a collection of inept powderpuff attempts to score that you'll ever see. We could should have scored eight times against Cowdenbeath. And as for those three golden chances against the cheats, well to fail to even trouble the goalkeeper on any of them seems almost unforgivable. But they also show that we have a class keeper.

Agreed, we should go for the subliminal, subtle approach.

Funny thing is that I was thinking almost exactly along those lines last night for at least half the game. Then we end up scoring 3 goals, with what looks like a really promising young striker, and I start to think again that "maybe we've been unlucky with the breaks this season....."

Yep. Good points.

I tried to phrase my post to make it generic rather than aimed at any specific individual. But you're one of the "problems" that the footballing powers need to try to get back into the habit of going to see their team whenever they can. It's certainly not about being a good or a bad person; it's about a commercial organization losing its appeal to previously loyal and bonded customers/clients. When even guys like yourself are losing interest (even without excuses relating to the bunnet's preferred styles of players and play, etc.), then the situation is getting very serious. And again, clearly not just for Thistle, but for most clubs.

How about this random idea: the problem is that there are already too many matches, not too few! The repetitiveness of the league is finally causing more and more people to simply not go. So, how about having teams play each other only twice in the league, regardless of the size of the league. But, double the admission price! This not only means that there could easily be a winter shut-down, but also that each game would be much more of an event (or a non-event, but even so it would be more of an occasion). And the enthusiasm among fans might return after a Dec-Feb break. It wouldn't cost fans any more in the long run, but might even increase income from hospitality, catering, etc.

Of course there's no obligation for anybody to pay good money to see football, and I reckon most regular supporters miss some matches for one reason or another (I know that I do). But it certainly seems that there's an increase in the number of people (Thistle "supporters") who now just don't care whether Thistle decide to switch to part-time football and either stay in the lower leagues for ever more, or even go bust. If the latter happened, I've no doubt that some of them would join in all the wailing and mourning and accusations that the board never got the investment required, or invested enough in the team, or that the leagues and cups were boring, etc etc. Some of them even do that right now. But the bottom line is that they (those "supporters") just couldn't be bothered. And some of them make a point of letting it be known on online forums that they can't be bothered. This doesn't only apply to PTFC; I'm sure it's more widespread.

Couldn't believe that when I saw it earlier. What exactly did the referee send him off for? Ungentlemanly conduct? Using undue force to restrain a law-breaker? Weird.

Just in case anybody is already sick of the sight of Falkirk, we've got three games against them coming up within a 3-week period. Riveting.