The optimist Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Right guys, it's been the talking point all summer. I think we all know that newco should be dumped into div 3 for next season (perhaps not even be given a sfa membership), but what do you think WILL be the outcome come Friday? Got a bad feeling that thistle will be travelling to ibrox next season : ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdwishbone Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I agree. Don't see how the SPHell can live without SKY's money. Really think SPHell 2 with be set up, only in the hope that Newco will be back next season. Anyone get the impression that the Glasgow cup may just be renamed the Glasgow New Year cup? (Just a thought) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z88 Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I think we will be having Newco visiting Firhill. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18754479 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Scruff Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I don't know. I was sure that it'd be Newco ib SFL3. But some of the puzzling stuff over the last few days make me wonder if there will be some last minute ill-thought-out solution to have them in tier two. And that's what I think might actually happen unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The optimist Posted July 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Scottish football: full time disgrace, part time embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankJag Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I think the SFL will agree to let them into the second tier - with the promise of major reform for next summer (2013). Also think that's what most of the SFL1 clubs actually want, despite the fan's wishes being very different. But hey we only support football so what do we know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Leitch Loyal Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Ist Division, alas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantB Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/rangers-vote/2201 Words cannot begin to describe my anger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital Jag Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Who sits on the Board of the SFL? Names are not listed on the SFL website. They need lobbied hard - and pronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Traveller Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) So the first question gets past their rule of a club having tp be an associate member for four successive years just to get into the league at all, and the second one hops them up two divisions without any gutless chairmen having their fingerprints directly on it. Hard to see anything other than Div 1 or SPL2, whatever you choose to call it, because they will stop at absolutely nothing to bring this about. Clubs like Raith deserve all the credit in the world for their stance so far, but they're getting steamrollered pretty damn hard now. Edited July 7, 2012 by Double Ugly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital Jag Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 As to the original question. My crystal ball tells me "they" will start the season in Div 3 (they'll apply for that cos they can't really afford wages) but they will fail to finish the season when they go mammaries skywards again once HMRC and BDO get all forensic and medieval with them over past transgressions and the Duff and Phelps sale of assets for heehaw like the real value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One t in Scotland Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 There's not going to be a vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantB Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 As to the original question. My crystal ball tells me "they" will start the season in Div 3 (they'll apply for that cos they can't really afford wages) but they will fail to finish the season when they go mammaries skywards again once HMRC and BDO get all forensic and medieval with them over past transgressions and the Duff and Phelps sale of assets for heehaw like the real value. I cannot tell you how much I hope this is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I agree. Don't see how the SPHell can live without SKY's money. This is the problem. If the SPL think that they will get rangers back in 12/13 then they will shut up shop and see it as business as usual. They've never cared about the good of Scottish football overall before so if the SFL bale them out then it will be f**k you jack I'm OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital Jag Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I'm told Livvi and Airdrie have reps on the SFL Board and that the total is 6. WHo are the others anybody know? Vital to lobby them mercilessly this week. The Lvivi rep will play hard ball, the Airdrie one will assume the position. Need to know stance of the other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Traveller Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 According to folk on Twitter... SFL board apparently: Gordon MacDougall (Livingston), Jim Ballantyne (Airdrie), Ewan Cameron (Alloa), Anne McKeown (Arbroath), Gilbert Lawrie (Dumbarton), Malky Mackay (Queens Park), Ken Ferguson (Brechin), Jim Leishman (Dunfermline). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The optimist Posted July 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Is that good news or bad? Anyone know what views these clubs have expressed on the situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital Jag Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 According to folk on Twitter... SFL board apparently: Gordon MacDougall (Livingston), Jim Ballantyne (Airdrie), Ewan Cameron (Alloa), Anne McKeown (Arbroath), Gilbert Lawrie (Dumbarton), Malky Mackay (Queens Park), Ken Ferguson (Brechin), Jim Leishman (Dunfermline). Airdrie - conflict of interest (he's an oldco shareholder Pars - conflict of interest (club stands to gain) Livvi - will play hard ball Alloa - no idea Arbroath - no idea Sons - no idea Queens - surely they'll want to fill Hampden with newco fans in Div 3 :-) Brechin - called for sporting integrity last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankJag Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Would that be Jim Ballantyne the Rangers shareholder? However will he vote on Friday???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Traveller Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 They're obviously going to come up with a package to offer the clubs midweek and then give them the chance to get it through by handing it over to the board who can decide "for the good of the game". I think when it gets to that stage it's all over anyway, so pressure on every club would still be the way to go. Say for argument a third are happy to vote for a deal, a third are against and a third are keen to have the deal but too scared to vote for it and then face their own fans (hello, Mr Beattie). This option would let them ease it through. It's the only reason for it to exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Div 3 for Sevco and as a result SPL2 re-incarnated Fully expect another fudge but ultimately Sevco in Div 3. Surely only Div 2 sides should be allowed to vote in any case as they do not stand to win/lose in the short term? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWM Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 SPL 2 would be an absolute laughing stock with Newco, Stenny a handful of other diddy mobs and ourselves. A PR disaster to add the others of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKennan Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Right now, the thought going through my head is that the game at the Rec will be the last Jags game I attend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) I wonder how many of those fans of SPL clubs appreciate that maybe they didn't win their battle after all and the guys they thought they had convinced to do the right thing just simply decided to put the fix in elsewhere. So it will be the clubs in the lower divisions who get the blowback form all this while the SPL clubs get a pat on the back from thier fans. (BTW I realise some of the SPL guys were honestly for NO from the start but I suspect the rest bided their time till they saw if a fix could be sorted). Edited July 7, 2012 by Mr Bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewarty Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) A good blog post on the Guardian website from Ewan Murray. "The odds are just in favour of Rangers appearing in the tier immediately below the elite, however a deal can be cut to achieve that" Edited July 7, 2012 by Stewarty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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