Very Bitter Jag

I was one of the original members (although not for a long time) of The Jags Trust, so I know all about how it started. For a long time, however, I haven't a clue what they do. I have looked at their website and it just seams to be lots of words without any noticable actions (particularly regarding fan ownership, other than being named in the recent joint statments) and no info on the current committee. So to any Jags Trust committe members (or members in the know) on this site, please can you advise - Who are the current committee members? What do you get for membership? How many paid up members does the Jags Trust have? What involvment/influence has the trust had in the fan ownership saga? Thanks.

Could TJF and TJT not just merge? Tbh haven't really seen the point of TJT for a long time, just seam to me to be a legacy organisation that is pretty much dormant other than arranging poty doos and holding legacy shares which give them little or no influence or power. Happy to be educated!

I've always understood its to do with a tracker (sewn in at the back) that monitors the players stats.

Gutted...

Good spot, I'm going to guess it's a cushion!

Watched as ppv via TV, thought stream was excellent! Thought first goal was offside and it was a penalty, however, watching highlights think ref got both right. Onwards and upwards...

I've just watched the full match (did a likely Lads and avoided the score earler - successfully though!). Thought Sneddon, Docherty, Glass and Mckenna did well in particular, but all did well enough imho, quite encouraged dispite the loss. Then watched McCalls interview, was suprised by his comment about BSC Glasgow, but Michael Max did say that a BCS player got sent off after the game and got impresson the manager may have been involved, so maybe a dig because of whatever happened? Ayr game to be free to view as well.

And guess who my English team is. I hate my life lol.

This is just pathetic, WJ!

Well I think your answer is a really bad one! What I actually said was "were last in the office that day".

So if 81% of people you work with decide you should be let go, because someone had to go and you were last in the office that day, it would wrong, but you just have to accept it because that was the majority decision?

Agreed!

I don't agree with you re 14-14-14 as in my view was a legitemate option to be considered. The proposal didn't relegate teams, no one went down as such, still as close to the Championship as before, just others merged up. I agree, though that as a solution it was the most flawed, for want of a better word, as those four teams would have end up in the lowest league and as a result and therefore closer to the play off spot for potentionally dropping out the spfl. I agree in principal that stopping promotion is as unjust to Dundee Utds and Cove's cases (Raith don't 'deserve' anything mind) as our relegation is to us. Problem for us, as I understand it, is thats the outcome we require to prevent our unjust relegation. What frustrates me most about this whole situation though, is that it didn't need to happen this way . Reconstruction was such an obvious solution as it would have stopped unfair relegations and allowed promotions, simple really! For some reason though, too many teams that had absolutely nothing or very little to lose from reconstruction, under the circumstances, decided for some reason to vote against. In particular step forward Dundee Utd, Raith Rovers for example (not sure how Cove voted). Based on their votes alone we should have zero guilt or sympathy if there promotions are over turned and also if of any other teams who voted against it are put in trouble because of or legal action.

Well that's ruined it for me, thanks a lot!

That's the spirit lol.

So not wishing to be cheeky are you, therefore, happy that we are about to play in our third different league in 4 years, as its providing variety?

Thank you. It's more likely I will want to changed to Very Very Bitter Jag in due course, than back tbh!!

No it isnt, as i said I was just venting... I've just read the official statment and as bitter as I am, I cant see what else we can do or say. Hopefully in private thoughwe have some revenge option to wield in due course...

Admin if its possible please can you change my user name to Very Bitter Jag (my current user name was inspired by the last relegation vote)! I'm just venting and ranting probably but - With regards legal action there is no doubt in my mind that it would ultimately fail, however, it may be able to halt payments and or delay any resumption to the league until it fails, thus causing as much harm as possible in the interim (best case causing applicacble teams to go under!!!). Also, making it clear that we are now well aware of where we stand with certain member clubs ang going forward on we will be as uncooperative and unwelcoming, that we we can contactually get away with, to any league representitives, associates and said member clubs... As I said above I'm probably just venting and ranting and in reality this is either difficult /impossible to do without cutting our noses off...

Pinhead that was ment to be a down arrow, but apparatly I can't correct it as I've used my daily allowance! I will update tomorrow.

3 nil I think.

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Do you know you're right about that, you got me there. I'll take your dig on the chin and have a wee chuckle at myself for being foolish.

It was a very good, very wee joke! Pity GRE had to throw his dummy out the pram!

That's brilliant, loved the screaming lol.