douglas clark

Point taken, I apologise. I am just finding this whole thing very frustrating but that ain't a decent excuse.

Jordanhill Jag, You say: " because they cant influence any share Sale outcome - there duty is to there Shareholders - nor could they discuss it without advising all shareholders atb the same time ? " It seems that they have control over the shares they own. It is their, not there, btw. To the extent that they own shares, then they certainly do have a voice, or do you have evidence to the contrary?

Just wondering if they knew, whether they would share it with us, y'know, mere fans? This is getting ridiculous and beyond a joke. We need a meaningful statement either from the buyers or those against it. Perhaps this will happen this week, or next week or the week after? So far, proposals appear to be on a continuum of 'next week' on a rolling, next weekly basis. Y'know, never. In other words there is no conclusion and this will just forment here until it is a 25 year old malt whisky or summat.

" This is my problem. Rich American Investors are unlikely to by philanthropic benefactors. But I just don’t see how they can make money out of Thistle (legally). " And you know this how?

eljaggo, Any reply from them?

Key to what? There are two roads in front of us. Either we agree that we are a selling club - the Aidan Fitzpatrick scenario - and their are many other examples, where we are making some money, sometimes, and the losses of players are a bit correlated to our negative league positions, and we live with that? Perhaps so. Or, We have enough capital or income to keep these players on wages they are happy with, unless and until the money becomes ridiculous. -------------- Perhaps the Ajax model is a third option. Get yourself up to a level where you do produce players that sell for ridiculous amounts of money and you re-invest it in your youth.

Colin Weir is a bit of a hero to me. I hope he recovers from whatever ails him. If I won the lottery, I wish I could be as decent a human being as he is. There are roads that lottery winners go down, and his has been an impressive example of what a genuine person does with their fortune. We are lucky to have him.

May I comment in the midst of all this confusion? Hibernian have apparently sold out to an American, but it doesn't appear to have anything to do with our Chinese American. US-based businessman Ron Gordon has taken control of Hibernian as the Edinburgh club changed hands for the first time in 28 years. Looks like some weird takeover of Scottish Football by American billionaires, they are ten a penny I tell ya!

I would really, really like something that moves this forward. As it stands, there appears to be nada, zero, nowt that confirms or denies the stories, maybe fairy stories, about our future as a club. No-one in the last 38 pages of this thread seems to have definitive evidence that we are either subject of a takeover or not. Sure, we can all claim that silence is either consent or denial. But it doesn't add up. The Boards' silence is quite astonishing, unless they are in secret negotiations. If they are not in secret negotiations, why the silence? Otherwise they ought to spell out their position. Supporters are always the last to know. Which isn't how it should be.

Norgethistle, Thanks for finding that. Has anyone any idea whether there has been any updates since 18th May 2016? Otherwise it all looks a bit moribund to me. Any thoughts?

LIB, couldn't agree more.

Completely agree. You say "We're losing a genuine professional and one of the best ambassadors and role models the Club has ever had." And we are that daft? If it is his decision, because he wants to keep playing then fair enough. But if PTFC was unable to find him a place on their coaching staff, then there is "something rotten in the State of Denmark.!"

jls army. I couldn't agree with you more. It just seems ludicrous that we don't have the facilities for child and youth development. Nor transition to our youth teams and our reserve teams and perhaps first teams. That was what Kirky was supposed to give us? I want to believe in that model. I believe Colin Weir will ante up the money, but even a hero like that, who is buying facilities for us, must query the progress from the bottom to the top? A year or two ago, there was an idea about how this club could progress. The ideas that were put in place then, have been severely damaged. It is more than a tad, sad.

Winter of '63, Agree with a lot of what you had to say. Assuming we avoid relegation the next transfer window will be pretty interesting! Perhaps more knowledgeable people than me would know whether we have more coming up from the Academy, etc? He has stuck with Penrice up until now - ever present I believe - and Fitzpatrick has had a number of cameo appearances. Along with Sneddon who has possession of the jersey in goal, for now. What I think I am trying to say is that there is a nucleus of a young team as well as an old team. Thoughts?

Laukat, " In attack he is still largely dependent on individuals producing moments of magic rather than a formation switch to say wingers who get to the byline and put in crosses and cutbacks or trying to get faster players around the edge of the 18 yard line who move defenders out of position or put on a larger target men to cause choas in the penalty box. When he has the indiviudal talent of McDonald, Cardle, Doolan and Fitzpatrick available it should work on most occassions but when he relied on Storey and an off form Doolan before Christmas it struggled. " Moments of magic are what most goals are. Discuss. ;-)

I have been impressed with Aiden Fitzpatrick. Quite why he rarely, if ever, gets a start has been a puzzle to me. Any thoughts?

What the heck is happening?

Apologies, KRIS DOOLAN! 121 With my amazingly -under-rated by the bookies - ability to win a bet, I predict that we will finally end up with a management team of Doolan / Erskine. It's what we do. Just saying.

Gary seemed to me - on Jagzone - to think that oor Chris had 'turned a corner'. A corner of GC own making, perhaps? I hope and pray to my very weird Gods that GC is right. We obviously need Chris Doolan, to be back at his very best. What is that? 121 goals in a Thistle vest? Lets hope it is a tad higher by the end of the season. He may, inadvertently, rescue the GC CV. If it keeps us up? Caldwell should try for something other than loan players, he should try to build a home grown or contracted team. We have been extremely lucky to get Hazard on loan, and others. This is not a sustainable model for an ambitious football club.

Can I just ask, apart from getting a very good manager, what did their board do that our's didn't? Genuine question.

If we are going down, and I suspect we are not, it is just fate. We have enough money floating around to see us bounce back. Just saying.

I kinda think so too.

Jimmy McD, 'Tis indeed a long trip to Inverness. Hopefully we will all recall this as a turning point. Y'know, when we win some enormous Cup, we'll all say this was when we hit rock bottom and 'bounced'. I wasn't there, age and general penury make travelling around the country kind of hard. However I do have Jag Zone! Which almost takes me back to listening to World Cup Finals on the wireless. You are relying on voice commentary to provide you with enough information to fill in the gaps between the booking, the fouls, the free kicks and the rest of it. If you finally see a film of the game you listened to, I can guarantee you that your vision and reality will be incongruent. I have never listened to a radio commentary and exactly seen the video. ------------------------------------------------ PTFC could, fairly easily, create a joint attend / watch season ticket. They could probably charge people like me damn near the price of an attending season ticket holder. What they would have to do is simulcast. There is a smallish but perhaps growing audience for that idea. Perhaps, if you actually have a marketing branch you could get in touch?