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7 hours ago, exiledjag said:

A few names for the old timers to dwell on from the 1960s Jags.. My memory might not be that great in terms of the clubs they left us for.hey 

Neil Duffy (my personal favourite  all time Jags player) left us to go to St Johnstone

Ian Cowan (left us to go to Falkirk)

Gordon Whitelaw (to Dundee Utd)

Billy Hainey (to Dundee Utd)

John Flannigan (to Clyde)

Tommy Gibb (to Newcastle Utd)

Sandy Brown (to Everton)

and from a later era:

Alex Forsyth (to Manchester Utd)

Alan Hansen (to Liverpool)

Ronnie Glavin (to Celtic)

Cowan, Duffy and Flannigan as far as I recall had their beat days with the Jags.

Brown and Gibb had mixed success enjoying some good times but never totally convincing the fans that they were the real deal.

Whitelaw, Hainey, Forsyth and Glavin all enjoyed success with their new clubs and definitively played at a higher level

Alan Hansen - became a Liverpool legend!

I am sure the above list can be added to and my views debated. But isn't that football!!

 

 

As regards John Flanagan his departure was, as I remember, rather acrimonious insofar as he perhaps thought he was better than a second division player. He was a good enough player - indeed one of my favourites in the relegated 69-70 team - but perhaps jumped too soon? In hindsight a League Cup winners medal and not being relegated with Clyde that same season might have been a better reward. Maybe “doing well” post Thistle might not be the most appropriate thread given the above?

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19 hours ago, jaggy said:

Regarding some of the older names, the thread title is players doing well since they left us. I think Denis McQuade is one that didn’t do well when he left. I think tbh Denis’s best days were behind him by then

Good point. Those who went to England certainly made some dosh, even if they didn't shine especially brightly.

Of those who stayed in Scotland,  Joe McBride went on to have a truly amazing scoring record for several clubs. And Arthur "Bomber" Duncan is a legend at Easter Road.

I'm not sure if Badger (to Killie) or Somner (to St Mirren) actually did any "better" when they left us, either in terms of performance or for themselves (in the long run).

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13 hours ago, JeanieD said:

As regards John Flanagan his departure was, as I remember, rather acrimonious insofar as he perhaps thought he was better than a second division player. He was a good enough player - indeed one of my favourites in the relegated 69-70 team - but perhaps jumped too soon? In hindsight a League Cup winners medal and not being relegated with Clyde that same season might have been a better reward. Maybe “doing well” post Thistle might not be the most appropriate thread given the above?

Did Flanagan leave after we were confirmed relegatees in early 1970? I thought he'd gone earlier in the season than that. Surprised to see there doesn't appear to be an Archives article on him; he was a good wee player for us.

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2 hours ago, Jimmy McD said:

John Flanagan even had his own song, those of us of vintage years will remember,  Come on without, come on within, you won't see nothing like John Flanagan,  sung to the tune of The Mighty Quin by Manfred Mann... Happy Days 

That song would have worked perfectly for Chris Erskine. Pity no one thought of that, as Chris never had a proper song dedicated to him apart from the rather dull "Erskine, Erskine" chant.

He was another who left, had some success with Dundee United in the second of his 3 seasons there, and then realised what he was missing and came back!

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7 hours ago, Jaggernaut said:

Did Flanagan leave after we were confirmed relegatees in early 1970? I thought he'd gone earlier in the season than that. Surprised to see there doesn't appear to be an Archives article on him; he was a good wee player for us.

John departed in October 1970 just after a 1-0 defeat at Brechin. Admittedly this was our last defeat of the season but the team was still “bedding in” and the early results had been a bit mediocre up to that point ( a draw at home to Dumbarton the following week wasn’t really encouraging but after that results started to flow). Perhaps John took the opportunity that seemed a good idea at the time - a few weeks later I saw him score for Clyde against a very good Aberdeen team and his move didn’t seem like a bad one (although Aberdeen scraped a 2-1 win at Shawfield that day).

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6 hours ago, JeanieD said:

John departed in October 1970 just after a 1-0 defeat at Brechin. Admittedly this was our last defeat of the season but the team was still “bedding in” and the early results had been a bit mediocre up to that point ( a draw at home to Dumbarton the following week wasn’t really encouraging but after that results started to flow). Perhaps John took the opportunity that seemed a good idea at the time - a few weeks later I saw him score for Clyde against a very good Aberdeen team and his move didn’t seem like a bad one (although Aberdeen scraped a 2-1 win at Shawfield that day).

Thanks for that information. You've corrected my memory, and now I remember feeling surprised (and disappointed) at his rather sudden disappearance at the start of that pretty amazing season.

I wonder if he had any regrets in the long term about leaving when he did.

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13 hours ago, JeanieD said:

John departed in October 1970 just after a 1-0 defeat at Brechin. Admittedly this was our last defeat of the season but the team was still “bedding in” and the early results had been a bit mediocre up to that point ( a draw at home to Dumbarton the following week wasn’t really encouraging but after that results started to flow). Perhaps John took the opportunity that seemed a good idea at the time - a few weeks later I saw him score for Clyde against a very good Aberdeen team and his move didn’t seem like a bad one (although Aberdeen scraped a 2-1 win at Shawfield that day).

I wonder if that ex player rookie manager was getting hounded for a mediocre start ?

 

 

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I'm guessing your alluding to biggest Jags hero of all time (well, at least in my lifetime), Dave McP.

It was indeed a less than scintillating start to new manager's career, but what a season it developed into, and then the one after that!

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4 hours ago, Jaggernaut said:

I'm guessing your alluding to biggest Jags hero of all time (well, at least in my lifetime), Dave McP.

It was indeed a less than scintillating start to new manager's career, but what a season it developed into, and then the one after that!

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Exactly my point. We are far too ready to write a season off after a few bad results and blinkered to improvements - no matter how good. Result based as long as it suits us.

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