rodmac Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 McHugh has already been recalled to Motherwell, due to their loan signing of an English player being called off. Ideal chance to give one of our youngsters a chance I would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Confirmation. http://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2011/01/21/mchugh%E2%80%99s-thistle-move-cancelled/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 My guess is that we will get him within the next 10 days after Motherwell have secured an alternative loan signing for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 As I suspected, it is only "on hold" - http://ptfc.co.uk/news/2010-2011/january_2011/mchugh_loan_on_hold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKennan Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I am tempted to wonder out loud how in God's name Motherwell has remained in business if there's such nonsense going on over a player - Grella is American and clubs should do their homework - but I don't really want to open 15 years of old wounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I am tempted to wonder out loud how in God's name Motherwell has remained in business if there's such nonsense going on over a player - Grella is American and clubs should do their homework - but I don't really want to open 15 years of old wounds. The FIFA rules are crazy, restrict trade and freedom of employment/movement. They appear to contravene European Union laws. The EU should tell FIFA to amend its laws and stop regarding itself as above the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turi Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 The FIFA rules are crazy, restrict trade and freedom of employment/movement. They appear to contravene European Union laws. The EU should tell FIFA to amend its laws and stop regarding itself as above the law. The EU doesn't restrict the movement of non-EU nationals within the EU, it will be down to the British authorities to grant Grella his visa. The common sense required is minimal though, he's still got a contract with Leeds, so they should technically be his employers imo. The bureaucracy of the whole process is unnecessary. Agree with McKennan, Motherwell should know better. He should get his visa, it'll just take time for it to be granted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) I thought it was to do with him having already played for 2 clubs this season, and there being a rule allowing players to register with a maximum of three clubs in one season but only allowed to play for two of those. Nothing to do with nationality. Some players have managed to get around this. I think Begovic played for three teams in one season after he signed for Stoke mind you... Edited January 22, 2011 by twinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I thought it was to do with him having already played for 2 clubs this season, and there being a rule allowing players to register with a maximum of three clubs in one season but only allowed to play for two of those. Nothing to do with nationality. Some players have managed to get around this. That's what I thought. However, Arsenal have just allowed Aaron Ramsey to go on loan to Cardiff for a month. He had a spell with Nottingham Forest at the end of last year when he returned from injury. There has been no suggestion that Ramsey can't play for Arsenal when his Cardiff loan ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 That's what I thought. However, Arsenal have just allowed Aaron Ramsey to go on loan to Cardiff for a month. He had a spell with Nottingham Forest at the end of last year when he returned from injury. There has been no suggestion that Ramsey can't play for Arsenal when his Cardiff loan ends. Ramsey was a sub recently for Arsenal I'm sure (one of the Cups) I can't remember if he played or not, but it is strange given the rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggyThistle Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 That's what I thought. However, Arsenal have just allowed Aaron Ramsey to go on loan to Cardiff for a month. He had a spell with Nottingham Forest at the end of last year when he returned from injury. There has been no suggestion that Ramsey can't play for Arsenal when his Cardiff loan ends. Think it has to do with cross-border deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vom Itorium Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 McHugh wasn't even on the bench today for Well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Think it has to do with cross-border deals. I don't think so, I think it's a FIFA ruling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Think it has to do with cross-border deals. Grella (2 English clubs and 1 Scottish) would be a cross-border deal like Ramsey (2 English clubs and 1 Welsh). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Grella (2 English clubs and 1 Scottish) would be a cross-border deal like Ramsey (2 English clubs and 1 Welsh). Not really - Cardiff are in the English league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I don't think so, I think it's a FIFA ruling I have a feeling that it is to do with cross-border moves. Perhaps individual FAs are able to overrule in instances where all three registered clubs play under the same FA (i.e. Begovic at Portsmouth, Ipswich and Stoke; Ramsay at Arsenal, Forest and Cardiff) however in this instance perhaps the FA/SFA can't overrule the FIFA law as it's two different FAs involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) Not really - Cardiff are in the English league. I believe that they are governed by the Welsh FA even though they are members of the Football League. Edited to add that Ramsey required international clearance to sign for Cardiff - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/cardiff_city/9370546.stm "He could not play in their thrilling 4-2 win over Watford on Saturday - a result that moved Cardiff into the top two - as Ramsey had not received international clearance." Edited January 23, 2011 by kni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I believe that they are governed by the Welsh FA even though they are members of the Football League. Edited to add that Ramsey required international clearance to sign for Cardiff - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/cardiff_city/9370546.stm "He could not play in their thrilling 4-2 win over Watford on Saturday - a result that moved Cardiff into the top two - as Ramsey had not received international clearance." You learn something new everyday ... well if you stay awake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Gotta a feeling this is inaccurate Last paragraph. Can anyone confirm or rubbish this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hosie Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Gotta a feeling this is inaccurate Last paragraph. Can anyone confirm or rubbish this? Not sure when he sustained the injury but accurate I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partick monkey Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Word on the street is that there will be 3 new signings tomorrow..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifu02348 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Word on the street is that there will be 3 new signings tomorrow..... cool, any idea of who were gonna pick up? paton? hardie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodMcDonaldJag Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Boyle, Fox and Hardie is my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Boyle, Fox and Hardie is my guess. if it's 3 new signigs, Boyle + Fox, wouldnt be included. Hardie + Milen from Saints long shot, Michael Stewart, see he's looking for a club, I know, no chance. Hope Boyle and Fox get longer contracts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 John Lambie Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Someone said Hardie was training with QotS, why would he not be training with us if he was going to be signing in the near future..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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