Harrybriscoe Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Got to say I thought it was a pen and would have been raging had we been denied it at the other end. Both players went shoulder to shoulder outside the box in a fair challenge. Conrad then loses his balance whilst the St Mirren player continues his run and Conrad then falls onto the legs of the the attacking player inside the box. Did Conrad mean to fall and bring down the player knowing he was clean through? Only he knows; but regardless of intention or momentum (which isn't a defence) in my book that was a pen Anyway, best team on the day won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 The contact between legs is outside the box, as illustrated by Sportscene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 And yet they still managed to call it a penalty. The fact that Sportscene is cheap really doesn't excuse how utterly crap it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 No-one on Sportscene claimed it was a penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrybriscoe Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Had a look at the Sportscene footage and have to agree it was indeed outside the box. 100% a free kick though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryza Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 At the time I thought it was some sort of cross-body WWE type move from behind by Conrad but seeing the view from behind, defo no pen, St Midden player bundles into Conrad outside the box. Pen, what pen? play on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) Chic Young on Sportsound today compared it to the semi final incident, basically congratulating St Mirren for the fact that they weren't writing to the SFA about it. Doesn't matter how little respect I have for him, he still winds me up finds ways of making you have even less. Edited May 4, 2015 by Mr Bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 No-one on Sportscene claimed it was a penalty. Yes they did. (Cue pointless argument until it appears on i player) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 It's not a pointless argument. I recorded it. No-one other than Teale claims it's a penalty. Not the commentator. Not the presenter. Not the pundits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robphil Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 and as we so often - rightly! - criticise the species, well done the ref Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) It's not a pointless argument. I recorded it. No-one other than Teale claims it's a penalty. Not the commentator. Not the presenter. Not the pundits. Hmm. Arguable. They certainly didn't say it wasn't one. And McDonald says it should have been a red card "as well". Pedantic semantic I suppose. It's still crap. Edited May 4, 2015 by allyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 What's arguable about it? They illustrate that it's outside the box. The commentator says it's outside the box. I'm all for giving it to them tight when they're spectacularly wrong, but you're fabricating things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roque Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Hmm. Arguable. They certainly didn't say it wasn't one. And McDonald says it should have been a red card "as well". Pedantic semantic I suppose. It's still crap. Absolutely baffling comment. They didn't say it wasn't raining either. Should we assume that they were implying it was raining? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Watched it back again. I'm genuinely surprised at reaction to what I've said. I'm not one for unfair criticism. Agree that commentator said it was outside the box, fair enough. But, Teale comes on and claims it was an obvious penalty and a red card. If the guys in the studio disagree with this then they should say so. It's not just "implied", they should address what Teale has said. And they do. They say he has a right to feel hard done by, that they don't understand why the referee hasn't seen it and that it's a red card "as well". They don't definitively say it should have been a penalty, but if they felt that it wasn't then surely it's their role to say that. And they don't. Anyway, 3-0, I don't suppose I should care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nixon Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I must have been dreaming because I'm sure both the pundits on Sportscene said it was a penalty. Has Gary Teale admitted he got is completely, utterly wrong yet? He seemed to think it was the injustice of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I must have been dreaming because I'm sure both the pundits on Sportscene said it was a penalty. Must have been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 gary teale should get his crayons out and write to sfa, spfl, police scotland, g4s, fifa, referees body, court of human rights, bbc, united nations, specsavers, uefa, the imperial senate and chick dung, and demand an explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hosie Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) To be fair to Teale he is making his comments almost immediately after the game perhaps without the benefit of seeing the incident again on TV. I thought it was a penalty at the time but the contact clearly comes outside the box and I actually think it is a tough call as to whether it is even a foul. The momentum of the contact takes Naismith into the box. It's these kind of incidents that underline how difficult decisions can be for match officials. A couple of says down the line with the benefit surrounding the decision, ale it not no about whether it was a penalty or not, yet the referee has to make his call instantaneously. Edited May 4, 2015 by Tom Hosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I agree with that Tom, but it was beyond me why both pundits on Sportscene gave the impression it was a stonewaller after they have probably watched it several times. Always difficult to give an opinion when you are up the opposite end of the ground, but from the NS it looked a stonewaller to me as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Clearly a lot of people dreaming through Sportscene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) Absolutely baffling comment. They didn't say it wasn't raining either. Should we assume that they were implying it was raining? Gary Teale: It was definitely raining, no question. I got soaked out there. Jonathan Sutherland: What do you think guys? Scott McDonald: I can see where Gary's coming from. I certainly think he's got a decent case. How everyone can't see that astounds me. If that coversation had happened I'd have got the impression that Scott McDonald was implying it was raining. Edited May 4, 2015 by allyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 You could be of the opinion that it's a red card without thinking it was a penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
distel Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Never a pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted May 4, 2015 Members Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I'm certain for every 100 Jags fans saying it was never a penalty, there are 100 St Mirren fans saying it was! The referee's opinion at the time is the only one that counts though. I'd love to hear what he thought of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I'm certain for every 100 Jags fans saying it was never a penalty, there are 100 St Mirren fans saying it was! The referee's opinion at the time is the only one that counts though. I'd love to hear what he thought of the situation. Strangely not, over on Black n White Army there's less than a handful suggesting it was a penalty. The vast majority are telling them to stop being ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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