Jaggernaut Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 If they do that AND the government stop the clocks going back, which has already got me confused, I'd put my chances of turning up at the right time for any match at about 4%. Good point. And given that our players sometimes don't turn up until it's too late, God knows what kind of results we might see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I was just wondering what sort of response the Club will get to this? Given the size of our support what would be considered a good number of responses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I was just wondering what sort of response the Club will get to this? Given the size of our support what would be considered a good number of responses? Hopefully extremely low and that'll give me a better chance of winning the hospitality Re kick off times, not that it happens very often but when we get Sunday games I feel an earlier KO time would be beneficial. Nothing to back it up but I just sense that the crowd would be slightly better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hopefully extremely low and that'll give me a better chance of winning the hospitality Re kick off times, not that it happens very often but when we get Sunday games I feel an earlier KO time would be beneficial. Nothing to back it up but I just sense that the crowd would be slightly better. As long as they allow us adequate time to get to the ground after communion........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted March 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 http://ptfc.co.uk/news/2010-2011/march_2011/fans_survey_update Over 1,400 responses with just under 2 weeks left so lets hope the Club get lots more responses as that will give them a clear indication of what the fans' opinion is on the various issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleGreySky Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 That's a pretty impressive response. Could be an idea to do this more often to guage the fans opinion on matters. Take moving stadium/stadium redevelopment for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 That's a pretty impressive response. Could be an idea to do this more often to guage the fans opinion on matters. It's an incredible response. Considering we've maybe only on average about 1800 fans that can be bothered to turn up for a football match and only a couple of dozen or so for a meet the manager (or a social night with a free pint) but over 1400 can be bothered to complete a lengthy online survey. Quite honestly I don't know what to make of that. I find a lot of things in this world increasingly strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vom Itorium Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 I wouldn't be surprised if this has been hijacked by the vast army of gypos that spend more time thinking about us than their own poxy wee side. If it is all genuine Jags fans then let's hope that everyone of them who participated is willing to join a membership scheme or whatever the club come up with to raise funds for our future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) http://ptfc.co.uk/news/2010-2011/march_2011/fans_survey_update Over 1,400 responses with just under 2 weeks left so lets hope the Club get lots more responses as that will give them a clear indication of what the fans' opinion is on the various issues. "we would ask you to take a little time, approximately ten minutes, to complete it" Took me quite a lot longer than 10 minutes to fill it in when i did it, but i did have a lot to say in the boxes provided (Hughes and Co, Shares, Propco, JA, multitude of financial cockups from board over last decade, ideas for merch, match experience, structure of football, what i love and hate about ptfc, what i'd change about the club, leaps of faith, fan ownership or at least increased levels and influence and input and consultation and so on and so forth). Well worth doing, and would encourage everyone to do the survey and give as much information and feedback as possible. Be brutal (or brutally honest) about what is wrong with the club, ground, any issue you have an opinion about - and where its deserved, give praise on issues you feel deserves praise. Then we can only hope the powers that be, listen to the supporters, then we will see how serious they are about engaging more and properly and regularily with the support. Could be an idea to do this more often to guage the fans opinion on matters. Take moving stadium/stadium redevelopment for example. Definitely. It's an incredible response. Considering we've maybe only on average about 1800 fans that can be bothered to turn up for a football match and only a couple of dozen or so for a meet the manager (or a social night with a free pint) but over 1400 can be bothered to complete a lengthy online survey. Quite honestly I don't know what to make of that. I find a lot of things in this world increasingly strange. Indeed it is. Though i do recall (as an example of previous proclomations, so many to choose from) year after year spin of "season ticket sales up on last year" at various points of close season, when later it was found (or oft rumoured or bodyswerved by the club) that sales were in actual fact, down in the end from year previous. Incidentally, is there any 'independant adjudication' taking place on this to prove there is 1400 responses (to date) as stated by the club, and/or once survey is completed, and that all responses are collated into a report, and not just the figures and responses the club wishes to give out which suits their own ends and/or gives them the answers and 'mandate' they wish? Edited March 3, 2011 by yoda-jag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Yoda, speak sense you do. 1400 is an incredible response so far, I only hope there aren't (m)any spurious responses or multiple entries from ex-Directors....but seriously, with good contributions from the folk that post on here, there should be a wealth of feedback data. Fawlty Towers, do you know how the Club plans to analyse the responses, communicate the results and produce a set of actions? As on any survey, it's the follow through that's important; this is the bit that often hasnt been thought through. So I hope the Club has some professional expertise to guide them on how to do the right thing by all this feedback. There are some of us with employee/customer survey feedback expertise, skills that could be utilised by the Club for the price of a pie and a pint! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Traveller Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 It's an incredible response. Considering we've maybe only on average about 1800 fans that can be bothered to turn up for a football match and only a couple of dozen or so for a meet the manager (or a social night with a free pint) but over 1400 can be bothered to complete a lengthy online survey. Quite honestly I don't know what to make of that. I find a lot of things in this world increasingly strange. Mm-hm. It's inspiring. Fantastical, even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven H Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 It's an incredible response. Considering we've maybe only on average about 1800 fans that can be bothered to turn up for a football match and only a couple of dozen or so for a meet the manager (or a social night with a free pint) but over 1400 can be bothered to complete a lengthy online survey. Quite honestly I don't know what to make of that. I find a lot of things in this world increasingly strange. That's a fair enough consideration M'Lady but how many fans have completed it more than once? How many non-Thistle fans have completed it 'for a laugh'? I'm in the process of trying to gain ethical clearance for an under-grad dissertation and would not get it if I proposed a research project like this one. Given this is the Clubs attempt to research the opinions of the fans, there are too many holes in this for me to get too excited about it's possibility to bring about change within Firhill. Others have already asked about the findings and how they will be collated and analysed but, even if there are sound processes in place for this, how can they be sure of the accuracy of those findings? Too pedantic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 That's a fair enough consideration M'Lady but how many fans have completed it more than once? How many non-Thistle fans have completed it 'for a laugh'? I'm in the process of trying to gain ethical clearance for an under-grad dissertation and would not get it if I proposed a research project like this one. Given this is the Clubs attempt to research the opinions of the fans, there are too many holes in this for me to get too excited about it's possibility to bring about change within Firhill. Others have already asked about the findings and how they will be collated and analysed but, even if there are sound processes in place for this, how can they be sure of the accuracy of those findings? Too pedantic? No. Want pedantic?: its, not it's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven H Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 No. Want pedantic?: its, not it's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWM Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 If the club moved kick offs to 1pm, they would lose fans simply through inconvenience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vom Itorium Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 If the club moved kick offs to 1pm, they would lose fans simply through inconvenience They may also gain fans who struggle to make a 3pm kick-off?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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