Dark Passenger Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 I have five penalties in the 08/09 season. In any case, 50% doesn't equate to "most". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggybunnet Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) I have five penalties in the 08/09 season. In any case, 50% doesn't equate to "most".    i said at most 50% (by my numbers) so yes it does   my point is that without the pens his stats dont look that good and as much as i like to remember him passing three players and setting up a goal i remember more running past 4 losing the ball and standing in a huf as the other team score.  yes he had skill yes he was nice to watch but he liked to show off rather than win the game Edited June 27, 2011 by jaggybunnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vom Itorium Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Erskine at first day training with the Jags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Erskine at first day training with the Jags Looks like Strathclyde Park to me   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjptfc Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 I have five penalties in the 08/09 season. In any case, 50% doesn't equate to "most". Â You're fighting a losing battle mate. In my opinion, he was the best player we've had at the club for years, but there are Jags fans who will spend all day looking for reasons to say he was sh*te/inconsistent/lazy etc etc. Â This latest comparison with Erskine is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggybunnet Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 You're fighting a losing battle mate. In my opinion, he was the best player we've had at the club for years, but there are Jags fans who will spend all day looking for reasons to say he was sh*te/inconsistent/lazy etc etc. Â This latest comparison with Erskine is ridiculous. i havent said he was, i just dont think he was that great. Â in comparison i would rather watch chris any day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 i havent said he was, i just dont think he was that great. His second season saw him pull us along almost single-handedly. Let's make the comparison between him and Erskine when the latter's done the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 i havent said he was, Well, you did. You referred to him as a "lazy player" in one of your first posts on the subject. I'd also contest that he didn't create as much as Erskine does, but I can't find the stats to back up that argument. He did, however, create one of the finest goals I've seen us score; Scottish Cup, Ibrox, takes out two Rangers players with his first touch, two with the subsequent run and plays a beautiful dummied pass and we all know what followed that... Â But, then, he wasn't that great... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool Jags Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Well, you did. You referred to him as a "lazy player" in one of your first posts on the subject. I'd also contest that he didn't create as much as Erskine does, but I can't find the stats to back up that argument. He did, however, create one of the finest goals I've seen us score; Scottish Cup, Ibrox, takes out two Rangers players with his first touch, two with the subsequent run and plays a beautiful dummied pass and we all know what followed that... But, then, he wasn't that great... Â Very very difficult to disagree with that, IMO. That has to rank as one of the classiest 'assists' in my memory as a Jag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennythistle Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 I think it's fair to say that the styles of Chris and Gary are completely different. Â Was very sad to see Gary go and he certainly did give us a hiding or two as a dundee player. The money was a requirement at the time and I feel Gary did contribute a great deal to us during his short stay. Â Chris is,in my view, one of the most exciting players playing in the first division. He's still got a lot to learn but he gets a lot of us excited when he gets the ball and he can do things with a ball at his feet that very few in the division can do. Â Certainly glad that at this stage, Chris will be lining up in a jags shirt for coming season, rather than against us. Â Think we forget that Erskine and Dools came from the juniors and have came a long way in a short space of time. I'm sure there is a lot more to come from both and both will key men for us in the season ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornwoodjag Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 We get the point lenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornwoodjag Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 We could not afford Harkins wages. Why hate Harkins who got us a decent transfer fee and may saved us from administration? Narrow minded nonsense like that puts me off forums. FFS kni,i was only asking a simple question.anyway,maybe hate was to strong a word.i dislike harkins very much because he left my team for bigger and better things,which i disagreed with and also for his hand gestures which have been well documented already on this topic. However,from what i have seen of him in a thistle shirt,and what i have seen of erskine,i still say GH is/was a better player. Â Â Â Â Â Only an opinion mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggybunnet Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Well, you did. You referred to him as a "lazy player" in one of your first posts on the subject. I'd also contest that he didn't create as much as Erskine does, but I can't find the stats to back up that argument. He did, however, create one of the finest goals I've seen us score; Scottish Cup, Ibrox, takes out two Rangers players with his first touch, two with the subsequent run and plays a beautiful dummied pass and we all know what followed that... Â But, then, he wasn't that great... Â Â he was, you must have a short memory if you cant remember him losing the ball and not bothering to track back. Â again i never said he was s**t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Putin Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 I still love Glorious Gary Harkins, the assist at Ibrox and his goal away at St Johnstone were two of the best moments in recent years, when there haven't been too many. I think he's in a league above Erskine (not just literally), I would trade Erskine for Harkins back in a heartbeat. I like Erskine also, and hope we can keep hold of him, but he's nowhere near as good as GGH. Â I don't really care about the gesture he made either, some people make far too much of these things, it's not like he jumped into the crowd and karate kicked the Thistle supporters. At subsequent games at Firhill he got a decent reception from the Thistle fans, rightly so given his contribution, and acknowledged it. Finally, anyone who holds his move to Dundee against him is, frankly, living on a different planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Pretty much spot on, VP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennythistle Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 We get the point lenny  Lap top and me had a bit of a falling out last night. Didn't realise post had went on 3 times. Removed two of them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Thistle Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) I still love Glorious Gary Harkins, the assist at Ibrox and his goal away at St Johnstone were two of the best moments in recent years, when there haven't been too many. I think he's in a league above Erskine (not just literally), I would trade Erskine for Harkins back in a heartbeat. I like Erskine also, and hope we can keep hold of him, but he's nowhere near as good as GGH.  I don't really care about the gesture he made either, some people make far too much of these things, it's not like he jumped into the crowd and karate kicked the Thistle supporters. At subsequent games at Firhill he got a decent reception from the Thistle fans, rightly so given his contribution, and acknowledged it. Finally, anyone who holds his move to Dundee against him is, frankly, living on a different planet.   Totally agree, It's not as if Harkins was wanting to leave - the club sold him  Unlike other players who have signed preseason contracts months before there contracts were up Edited June 28, 2011 by Paddy Thistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberteeb Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Gary Harkins didn't want to leave Thistle and McCall wanted to keep him. But ultimately we couldn't give him the wages he deserved and we needed the money from a transfer fee to help balance the books. Dundee we splashing cash about left right and centre that summer and we benefited from it. I still love Gary Harkins, he was brilliant, what he did at Ibrox was breathtaking, on a regular basis he would control games and stroll around clearly a level or ten above the opposition...but let's not forget he was lazy at tracking back and every 4th or 5th game he would be anonymous. Notwithstanding that he was brilliant and great to watch, we would be a far better team if was still with us. His gesture at Dens Park was meritted to be honest, he got a hell of a lot of stick that day, from myself included, despite me telling myself beforehand I wouldn't get involved. Shows he cares - PASHUN! Â As for Erskine, he might not yet be as technically gifted as Harkins but when he gets the ball in a bit of space I get more excited than I would when Harkins received a pass. When The Bridge gets the ball and has room to turn you can feel the excitement in the crowd, everyone is expecting him to do something brilliant and very often he does. His mazey runs are what football is all about, so what if he 1 time out of 3 his run comes off, another time he plays a simple pass instead of skinning someone and the other he gets tackled, runs the ball out of play, miscontrols a turn, etc. I go and watch Arsenal and Cardiff games a few times a season, when Erskine gets the ball it's the same kind of buzz about the ground as when Nasri or Bellamy has the ball at their feet and has room to turn. Â I love Chris Erskine. Â I simply cannot see why anyone would have a go at him or not see what myself and the majority of the crowd see. If everything he tried came off he would be at Barcelona not Thistle. I don't want a team of 11 steady Eddies, flare, excitement, skill and pashun - it's what football is all about. We have plenty of other solid but unspectacular players, Erskine is the perfect fit for exciting attacking football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeehon Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Very difficult to replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Gary Harkins didn't want to leave Thistle and McCall wanted to keep him. But ultimately we couldn't give him the wages he deserved and we needed the money from a transfer fee to help balance the books. Dundee we splashing cash about left right and centre that summer and we benefited from it. I still love Gary Harkins, he was brilliant, what he did at Ibrox was breathtaking, on a regular basis he would control games and stroll around clearly a level or ten above the opposition...but let's not forget he was lazy at tracking back and every 4th or 5th game he would be anonymous. Notwithstanding that he was brilliant and great to watch, we would be a far better team if was still with us. His gesture at Dens Park was meritted to be honest, he got a hell of a lot of stick that day, from myself included, despite me telling myself beforehand I wouldn't get involved. Shows he cares - PASHUN! Â As for Erskine, he might not yet be as technically gifted as Harkins but when he gets the ball in a bit of space I get more excited than I would when Harkins received a pass. When The Bridge gets the ball and has room to turn you can feel the excitement in the crowd, everyone is expecting him to do something brilliant and very often he does. His mazey runs are what football is all about, so what if he 1 time out of 3 his run comes off, another time he plays a simple pass instead of skinning someone and the other he gets tackled, runs the ball out of play, miscontrols a turn, etc. I go and watch Arsenal and Cardiff games a few times a season, when Erskine gets the ball it's the same kind of buzz about the ground as when Nasri or Bellamy has the ball at their feet and has room to turn. Â I love Chris Erskine. Â I simply cannot see why anyone would have a go at him or not see what myself and the majority of the crowd see. If everything he tried came off he would be at Barcelona not Thistle. I don't want a team of 11 steady Eddies, flare, excitement, skill and pashun - it's what football is all about. We have plenty of other solid but unspectacular players, Erskine is the perfect fit for exciting attacking football. That's a pretty good description of Erskine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east lothian jag Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Time to move on, Harkins away, Erskine here for another season, roll on Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Time to move on, Harkins away, Erskine here for another season, roll on Saturday  I notice we've no game between this Saturday and the 16th. Surely they'll have to arrange something before we play Celtic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 I notice we've no game between this Saturday and the 16th. Surely they'll have to arrange something before we play Celtic? Â We've got Fleetwood Town on Saturday 9th July at Kelvinside Academy's playing fields and Motherwell away on Wednesday 13th July for Craigan's testimonial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 We've got Fleetwood Town on Saturday 9th July at Kelvinside Academy's playing fields and Motherwell away on Wednesday 13th July for Craigan's testimonial. Where are Kelvinside's playing fields? Something tells me New Anniesland (near the Yarrow's Social club) or up near Hughendon. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjag Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Where are Kelvinside's playing fields? Something tells me New Anniesland (near the Yarrow's Social club) or up near Hughendon. Anyone? Think they are across the great western road at gartnavel hospital right across from the garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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