potty trained Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Words can't describe what went on today! 3 folk thrown out from the shed, 2 for throwing ripped up tickets in the air. I have never seen a more jobs worth display. Coincidentally, the sectarian enforcement police were in the ground. So a section of established stewards decided to make a name from themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Where do we find these stewards? That's another few fans that the club have lost today. When the police arrived they only inflamed the situation by making aggressive threats. To clarify, 2 guys were thrown out for throwing their ripped up 50/50 tickets in the air. I invite Brian McKigen to clarify this situation. What went on today was a disgrace to Partick Thistle and the stewards who created the situation should never be allowed anywhere near the club ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewsday Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 What a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennythistle Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Why would you want anyone to be thrown out a ground for throwing paper into the air ? Seen the tickets get thrown into the air many times at matches. Please tell me there was more to it than just that...PLEASE !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewsday Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Why would you want anyone to be thrown out a ground for throwing paper into the air ? Seen the tickets get thrown into the air many times at matches. Please tell me there was more to it than just that...PLEASE !! Nothing more to add. A simple throw your tickets in the air for the start of the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistle4tw Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Saw this from the other side of hospitality. thought there was something else to it. positively shocking reading this now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennythistle Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Did they actually get taken out the ground? I'd have refused to go. I just can't get my head round this. Not saying I don't believe you, just astounded that couple of people could get thrown out for such a thing. The family section will be empty in no time if this is what is going to happen when paper is dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewsday Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Did they actually get taken out the ground? I'd have refused to go. I just can't get my head round this. Not saying I don't believe you, just astounded that couple of people could get thrown out for such a thing. The family section will be empty in no time if this is what is going to happen when paper is dropped. Yes. Honestly, kicked out for the ticket thing. Thats it, nothing else. it's pretty hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) The first incident at half time was simply someone having a bottle in the ground. After a few words with the steward she took the bottle away and went down the stairs with it only for 2 other stewards to appear with what seemed to be the intention of just causing bother. The police then came up the stairs and only made the situation worse by telling people trying to stick up for the boy to shut up and being what can only be described as confrontational. Then later on 2 or 3 stewards acted aggressively in taking the people mentioned above down the stairs for throwing paper up into the air. I sat 4 or 5 rows down from it and the attitude from the stewards was shocking. I noticed that the stewards involved then seemed to disappear before full time leaving other stewards who had nothing to do with it to deal with those who had witnessed the incidents and were pissed off at their handling of the situation. All that this will do will make people think twice about going to the games. Who wants to pay £17 to risk being thrown out for the most trivial of matters or worse lifted because the stewards get police involved in matters which dont merit their involvement? It seemed as if the stewards just wanted to show they could take action against the supporters because the anti-sectarian police were there after the offensive behaviour legislation came into effect during the week. Edited March 3, 2012 by Pie Of The Month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Sorry Lenny but that's really about it. Absolutely disgraceful conduct from the stewards. I think it's only right that Brian sheds some light on this, as he is ultimately responsible for the conduct of the stewards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistle4tw Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) Thought there was something bigger going on. Still those 2 stewards should be told to p**s off from firhill hate people like that. Edited March 3, 2012 by thistle4tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennythistle Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Why don't those of you who witnessed it , make your feelings known to the club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennythistle Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Sorry Lenny but that's really about it. Absolutely disgraceful conduct from the stewards. I think it's only right that Brian sheds some light on this, as he is ultimately responsible for the conduct of the stewards. Ian, I agree, there should be some sort of answer given. Such a shame that what seems to have been a good performance is soured by this. It really saddens me to think guys got thrown out for paper throwing. My wee boy throws his drinking straws about all the time. Many a time I've thrown the 50/50 tickets into the air when draw made and I've not won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 The silver lining is that a former director was actually 3 feet away from the incident, and was disgusted by the conduct of the stewards, so I don't think the stewards in question have heard the last of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackthejag Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 absolutely shocking! what a disgrace should never be near the club again f*****g jobs worth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Incognito Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 There was a similar incident during the Morton game a fortnight ago. Two young kids, about 12 or 13 years-old I would say, were sitting quite quietly watching the game, when suddenly two or three stewards appeared, spoke to them briefly and then escorted them out. I don't know if they had been involved in an icident earlier and if they had, then fair enough; but from what I saw of them they were doing anything other that simply sitting and watching the game. Throwing someone out out for ripping their tickets up and throwing them in their air is utter madness though. What next, people thrown out for dropping their empty pie cartons on the floor? If it is an issue, then surely a quiet word would sufice in the first instance. I must admit, I don't particularly like the refreshment generated mess that accrues by the end of a game; but if the arrangement is that the stands will be cleared afterwards, then fine. If the club don't want people creating litter then they should make that clear and provide alternative arrangements for disposing of unwanted tickets, empty Bovril cups etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 An officious steward at the Morton game insisted that I move my left foot so that it no longer protruded a whole SIX INCHES out onto the stairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKennan Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 An officious steward at the Morton game insisted that I move my left foot so that it no longer protruded a whole SIX INCHES out onto the stairs. Different story if he'd tripped over your clodhoppers and fallen down the stairs, wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKennan Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 absolutely shocking! what a disgrace should never be near the club again f*****g jobs worth! Two sides to every story, hotshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Tell us the other side then McKennan. I saw the whole thing, did you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewsday Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Two sides to every story, hotshot. No, the stewards should be fired and made to apologise. Simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Different story if he'd tripped over your clodhoppers and fallen down the stairs, wouldn't it? It would have been a spectacular achievement if anyone managed to trip over it. It was locked tight against the seat in the row in front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Europa Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 As with all football grounds we need to comply with the Safety at Sports Ground Act as well as our licence conditions from Glasgow City Council, Strathclyde Police, Strathclyde Fire and Rescue and Scottish Ambulance Service. We must comply with our licence conditions otherwise the licence to operate will be withdrawn and we will be unable to host any events at Firhill. There is strict enforcement of the numbers of stewards required dependant on the layout of a stadium. There is also an ongoing training and development program for every steward employed at Firhill. We are not permitted to provide litter bins within the seating area of the stadium at Firhill as this becomes an obstruction in the event of an emergency, therefore the only option available to us is to litter pick the stand after each match. As part of the ground regulations certain articles cannot be brought into a stadium that may be used as a weapon or cause injury to others such as cans, bottles, alcohol and glass. There is a full list of the ground regulations printed and displayed outside each of the turnstile doors and within the concourse areas. The stewards can eject someone from the ground for smoking, bringing in a bottle or can, using cameras or mobile phones to record the event etc however we take a more relaxed approach and ask someone to stop filming or smoking or remove the bottle or can from them. If the person refuses or is a persistent offender or continues after being asked to stop then they will normally be ejected. You will not be ejected from the ground for dropping litter under your seat or for ripping up a 50/50 ticket and throwing it in the air like confetti, however if you start throwing objects such as pie trays, food or drink at other spectators, stewards or players then expect to be ejected from the stadium. Likewise if you are abusive towards other spectators, staff including stewards then expect to be ejected from the stadium. On a matchday the event is controlled from the police control room by the Police Inspector who is the match commander. Within the control room there is a team managing and monitoring the event for everyones safety and enjoyment of the event. There is a cctv operator who is scanning every seat with powerful zoom lens cameras looking for any sign of trouble and when anything is noticed a steward or a police officer will be sent to investigate and deal with as appropriate. The cctv system is continually recording and can be played back and reviewed to check at any future date. The police match commander is in control during the event and it will be his decision that stands. At todays match some of the police officers were wearing bodycams attached to thier jackets which also record sound. These cameras look set to be a familar sight on more police officers in particular at football grounds so please remember that the laws of the land still apply within football stadiums. If anyone feels that they have been treated unfairly by a steward or any member of staff then please contact the club direct and they will review each and every case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watson Towers Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) As with all football grounds we need to comply with the Safety at Sports Ground Act... [...] ...If anyone feels that they have been treated unfairly by a steward or any member of staff then please contact the club direct and they will review each and every case. wow, what an articulate and reasoned post for this time of night. Usually by now it is just the weirdo night owls or raving drunks (or, often, just me, as I fall into both categories...) Anyway, your comments are all fair enough, Europa, but do you need to wait for a formal complaint? There has clearly been an incident of some kind here - surely the club would want to get to the bottom of this? I remember that Brian used to often post under an "any issues?" thread. I was always impressed by the way that he seemed to deal with anything that was raised: what about a "thanks for letting us know; we'll look into this" here? Edited March 4, 2012 by Watson Towers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Europa Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 wow, what an articulate and reasoned post for this time of night. Usually by now it is just the weirdo night owls or raving drunks (or, often, just me, as I fall into both categories...) Anyway, your comments are all fair enough, Europa, but do you need to wait for a formal complaint? There has clearly been an incident of some kind here - surely the club would want to get to the bottom of this? I remember that Brian used to often post under an "any issues?" thread. I was always impressed by the way that he seemed to deal with anything that was raised: what about a "thanks for letting us know; we'll look into this" here? The match commander completes a report that is issued to the club so the club are aware of most of the issues and would want to resolve them as they happen, however there may be incidents that are not brought to the attention of the club and although public forums work well the club can only really deal with direct correspondance with this type of situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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