ian_mac Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Although the club was not at fault; the stewards/polis were at fault. Doesn't really matter. It happened at Firhill. It's the club and their stewarding policy that comes out of this looking bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Doesn't really matter. It happened at Firhill. It's the club and their stewarding policy that comes out of this looking bad. You're right, but it's no big deal. I can see why "comedians" would poke fun at what happened, but it's unlikely to seriously damage the club in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) On the issue of OTT policing at Firhill last week as I suspected Falkirk, who were away last week, had the usual low level presence yesterday. So the obvious question is why were we selected for such scrutiny and not Falkirk? Edited March 11, 2012 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberteeb Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 I wonder if the female steward who was 'abused' was the one with the terrible attitude who is always confrontational and pretty much conforms to every stereotype of a 'jobsworth football steward at the football'? I wasn't there, but wouldn't be surprised if it's the one who spent ages giving me grief for smoking an electronic cigarette towards the end of a game a few weeks ago and threatening me with all sorts for doing so and refusing to go and actually confirm what I was telling her about them being fine to 'smoke' was true. The highlight was "you can't use it cause it looks like you're smoking". And for the avoidance of doubt I was 'unconfrontational' and hadn't touched a drop of ale before anyone goes down that road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 I wonder if the female steward who was 'abused' was the one with the terrible attitude who is always confrontational and pretty much conforms to every stereotype of a 'jobsworth football steward at the football'? I wasn't there, but wouldn't be surprised if it's the one who spent ages giving me grief for smoking an electronic cigarette towards the end of a game a few weeks ago and threatening me with all sorts for doing so and refusing to go and actually confirm what I was telling her about them being fine to 'smoke' was true. The highlight was "you can't use it cause it looks like you're smoking". And for the avoidance of doubt I was 'unconfrontational' and hadn't touched a drop of ale before anyone goes down that road. Interesting problem presented by leccy ciggies, though. If they look like the real thing, then I can understand why a steward would want to check them out. It certainly means more difficulty for stewards. Not trying to justify any attitude problems on the part of stewards, of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberteeb Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Interesting problem presented by leccy ciggies, though. If they look like the real thing, then I can understand why a steward would want to check them out. It certainly means more difficulty for stewards. Not trying to justify any attitude problems on the part of stewards, of course! I expect a steward to come up and see what is going on if they see someone 'smoking' but they must be aware of the existence of these things and the rules surrounding them (given part of their remit is to ensure compliance with public smoking regs) but I'd also expect them to listen to what the person using it has to say or seek clarification from someone who does know before 'going aff their nut'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennythistle Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 I expect a steward to come up and see what is going on if they see someone 'smoking' but they must be aware of the existence of these things and the rules surrounding them (given part of their remit is to ensure compliance with public smoking regs) but I'd also expect them to listen to what the person using it has to say or seek clarification from someone who does know before 'going aff their nut'. have to say i wasn't aware of them. clearly you have had an issue with the steward in question and that should not have happened. Just a thought but would it not have been an idea to have approached a steward and informed them of what you had so that there was no misunderstanding from the outset? It may have helped with their understanding of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberteeb Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 have to say i wasn't aware of them. clearly you have had an issue with the steward in question and that should not have happened. Just a thought but would it not have been an idea to have approached a steward and informed them of what you had so that there was no misunderstanding from the outset? It may have helped with their understanding of the situation. Do you inform a steward before you participate in a legal activity in the ground? "Excuse me love I'm just about to breathe, hope you don't mind". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Do you inform a steward before you participate in a legal activity in the ground? "Excuse me love I'm just about to breathe, hope you don't mind". This is exactly the sort of thing we need to stamp out at our stadium -just think of the possibilty that if everyone took your wreckless attitude we could run out of air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Do you inform a steward before you participate in a legal activity in the ground? "Excuse me love I'm just about to breathe, hope you don't mind". Uberteeb, as long as smoking is not permitted in football grounds, if you insist in indulging in what to any reasonable individual at a distance might look like smoking, then you can only expect to be requested to clarify the situation. Breathing is not a forbidden activity. Whether a steward could tell you that you can't engage in "electrical smoking" (is there a term for that) is another matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Uberteeb, as long as smoking is not permitted in football grounds, if you insist in indulging in what to any reasonable individual at a distance might look like smoking, then you can only expect to be requested to clarify the situation. . I wonder if the female steward who was 'abused' was the one with the terrible attitude who is always confrontational and pretty much conforms to every stereotype of a 'jobsworth football steward at the football'? I wasn't there, but wouldn't be surprised if it's the one who spent ages giving me grief for smoking an electronic cigarette towards the end of a game a few weeks ago and threatening me with all sorts for doing so and refusing to go and actually confirm what I was telling her about them being fine to 'smoke' was true. The highlight was "you can't use it cause it looks like you're smoking". And for the avoidance of doubt I was 'unconfrontational' and hadn't touched a drop of ale before anyone goes down that road. This reads the problem to me if correct, the steward in question according to Uberteed was not enquiring, but was confrontational, and threatening. There is no need for that to paying customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 This reads the problem to me if correct, the steward in question according to Uberteed was not enquiring, but was confrontational, and threatening. There is no need for that to paying customers. If that's what happened, then agreed. If there is no rule against these electrical devices, then as soon as the steward has established the nature of the thing then the matter should be closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 If that's what happened, then agreed. If there is no rule against these electrical devices, then as soon as the steward has established the nature of the thing then the matter should be closed. Agree and it should be done in a civilized manner, if you talk to people like sh*t expect to get it back, a wee smile and abit of politeness goes along way especially to your regulars (the home support) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Agree and it should be done in a civilized manner, if you talk to people like sh*t expect to get it back, a wee smile and abit of politeness goes along way especially to your regulars (the home support) Jeez, we sometimes have problems with each other, never mind the stewards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicofan Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 I wonder if the female steward who was 'abused' was the one with the terrible attitude who is always confrontational and pretty much conforms to every stereotype of a 'jobsworth football steward at the football'? I wasn't there, but wouldn't be surprised if it's the one who spent ages giving me grief for smoking an electronic cigarette towards the end of a game a few weeks ago and threatening me with all sorts for doing so and refusing to go and actually confirm what I was telling her about them being fine to 'smoke' was true. The highlight was "you can't use it cause it looks like you're smoking". And for the avoidance of doubt I was 'unconfrontational' and hadn't touched a drop of ale before anyone goes down that road. :shok: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennythistle Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Jeez, we sometimes have problems with each other, never mind the stewards! That's a load of sh1te, ya bass !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberteeb Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Uberteeb, as long as smoking is not permitted in football grounds, if you insist in indulging in what to any reasonable individual at a distance might look like smoking, then you can only expect to be requested to clarify the situation. Breathing is not a forbidden activity. Whether a steward could tell you that you can't engage in "electrical smoking" (is there a term for that) is another matter. Of course I expected to be questioned, it was even me who got her attention on one of those beautifully choreographed walks up and down the stairs. I wasn't "asked to clarify" anything, I was told a load of incorrect information in a not very polite manner by someone who refused to listen to what I was saying, It's hardly the end of the earth but lets just say had I been spoken to like that by a waitor, barman or bouncer I wouldn't be going back to that restaurant, pub or club. The staff on the pitch might be awful, the staff in the dugout might be clueless but the staff who work with the 'customers' could at least be polite. There are much worse grounds for stewarding but short of some morbid fetish establishment on the Reeperbahn I can't think of too many other environments where people pay money to be treated like shit by jumped up rent-a-cop wannabes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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