east end jag Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Item number 8e what about the Civic Reception? http://www.accessglasgow.org/councillorsandcommittees/Agenda.asp?meetingid=12209 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Item number 8e what about the Civic Reception? http://www.accessgla...meetingid=12209 Wasnt it these bassas who rejected our ideas for the bing?? And now give the other half of the ugly sisters the go ahead of their plans in the east end!! Could be wrong. But theyve never helped Thistle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Wasnt it these bassas who rejected our ideas for the bing?? And now give the other half of the ugly sisters the go ahead of their plans in the east end!! Could be wrong. But theyve never helped Thistle... You do know that the bing plans were the equivilant of being written on the back of a fag packet and went against various regulations? if planning had been passed for that, someone at the council would have been getting investigated for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediocre Pundit Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Weren't the bing plans approved by government planners and when the council was supposed to rubber stamp them they refused, claiming there would not be enough local amenities for the people that bought the flats? (like they wouldn't know that before choosing to buy them...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 You do know that the bing plans were the equivilant of being written on the back of a fag packet and went against various regulations? if planning had been passed for that, someone at the council would have been getting investigated for it! I stand corrected. Fair enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Weren't the bing plans approved by government planners and when the council was supposed to rubber stamp them they refused, claiming there would not be enough local amenities for the people that bought the flats? (like they wouldn't know that before choosing to buy them...) I thought that the reason given was that the piece of land was considered too small for a mixed stadium/housing development, so that either the stand or the flats had to go. But I'm often more likely to be wrong that right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Scruff Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) I thought that the reason given was that the piece of land was considered too small for a mixed stadium/housing development, so that either the stand or the flats had to go. But I'm often more likely to be wrong that right. The original application was recommended for approval by the planning officers based on the detailed proposals provided. They did acknowledge that it went against a provision against 'mixed use' in large stadia (ie over 10000) in Glasgow but indicated that this provision was really intended for the much larger clubs. The councillors who made up the committee went against this advice and voted it down. There was a bit of a story about 'absent' members at that meeting. The issue was essentially where the line was drawn between land which formed the stadium and land adjacent. The more recent successful (propco) application effectively worked by making the stadium smaller. Edited May 10, 2013 by Mr Scruff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Was it not voted down on the vote of a councillor from somewhere that was nowhere near Maryhill? Or is my memory playing tricks again...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 The elected Members (appropriate) within Glasgow Council have given permission for the London Rd School (Grade 2 Listed) to be demolished and some metal box to flog a selection of crypto Irish tat and other various celebrations of sectarian bigotry to be erected in its place - kind of sums up Glasgow Council. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrD Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Think down to stuff Partick Thistle and trust have done over the years in community initiatives has probably put PTFC on a much better foot in terms of relationships with Glasgow City Council. The getting the Lord Provists Loving Cup is symbolic of that. One would hope that the development of such social capital will stand the club in good stead with GCC whenever it needs its support in something or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrD Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 The elected Members (appropriate) within Glasgow Council have given permission for the London Rd School (Grade 2 Listed) to be demolished and some metal box to flog a selection of crypto Irish tat and other various celebrations of sectarian bigotry to be erected in its place - kind of sums up Glasgow Council. I don't know the specifics of that situation; but i would have thought as a general principle, an opening of cultural space for the self expression of the irish community in Glasgow would be a pretty good thing insofar as it delegitmises Celtic football clubs claim over that heritage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettingjaggy Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 I don't know the specifics of that situation; but i would have thought as a general principle, an opening of cultural space for the self expression of the irish community in Glasgow would be a pretty good thing insofar as it delegitmises Celtic football clubs claim over that heritage... This would be a good point, if the museum mentioned wasn't run by Celtic, including a legends walkway from the museum to the stadium with statues. In time for the Commonwealth Games. Yay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrD Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) well like i said i do not know the specifics of the situation but 3 things emerge. 1) the main point stands - there are all sorts of historical reasons for why celtic football club became one of the only legitimate spaces for the expression of irish cultural identity, the first essay by bradley in the book celtic minded gives a good account of that. 2) partick thistle needs to continue to have a good relationship with the civic authorities in order to be able to develop itself in the city of glasgow. 3) the general tone of resentiment that traditionally circulates in partick thistle domain impedes its development in a space it shares with the old firm. Edited May 11, 2013 by mrD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDFA Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 The bunch of twats who demolished the Public Hall as their Christmas gift to the people of Springburn... Their opinion of Partick Thistle - or anything else for that matter - means nothing to me. Sorry for the (albeit brief) rant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 well like i said i do not know the specifics of the situation but 3 things emerge. 1) the main point stands - there are all sorts of historical reasons for why celtic football club became one of the only legitimate spaces for the expression of irish cultural identity, the first essay by bradley in the book celtic minded gives a good account of that. 2) partick thistle needs to continue to have a good relationship with the civic authorities in order to be able to develop itself in the city of glasgow. 3) the general tone of resentiment that traditionally circulates in partick thistle domain impedes its development in a space it shares with the old firm. Unfortunately, the air in that space is TOXIC!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Kind words from the gravy train. The true innovators carry on regardless. O.T.I.G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Incognito Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 well like i said i do not know the specifics of the situation but 3 things emerge. 1) the main point stands - there are all sorts of historical reasons for why celtic football club became one of the only legitimate spaces for the expression of irish cultural identity, the first essay by bradley in the book celtic minded gives a good account of that. 2) partick thistle needs to continue to have a good relationship with the civic authorities in order to be able to develop itself in the city of glasgow. 3) the general tone of resentiment that traditionally circulates in partick thistle domain impedes its development in a space it shares with the old firm. I think GJ is right. The museum does anything but delegitmise Celtic's claim over Glasgow Irish heritage; if anything it reinforces the misconception that it is their preserve. For what it is worth, I would welcome any kind of museum that acknowledges and commemorates the Irish contribution to Glasgow, but this seems like yet another cynical attempt by Celtic to make £. A missed opportunity, then, which is a great shame, because we can no doubt look forward to years and years of this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Incognito Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Kind words from the gravy train. The true innovators carry on regardless. O.T.I.G. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunnylaw Jag Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 I think GJ is right. The museum does anything but delegitmise Celtic's claim over Glasgow Irish heritage; if anything it reinforces the misconception that it is their preserve. For what it is worth, I would welcome any kind of museum that acknowledges and commemorates the Irish contribution to Glasgow, but this seems like yet another cynical attempt by Celtic to make £. A missed opportunity, then, which is a great shame, because we can no doubt look forward to years and years of this: Loved the picture but how did you convince yer maw and da to dress up like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrD Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 ahh sorry GI - thats kinda what i meant but expressed badly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Incognito Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Loved the picture but how did you convince yer maw and da to dress up like this? Persuading my maw and da to do anything is quite difficult these days, since one of them is dead. I am not quite sure what your wee dig there was in aid of, to be honest. Touchy that your big team is being criticised, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunnylaw Jag Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 Sometimes a joke is just a joke, no more no less with no conspiracy theories behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Incognito Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Sometimes a joke is just a joke, no more no less with no conspiracy theories behind it. And sometimes they are pitched poorly, fail to hit the target and elicit the wrong response. Your day job - cling onto it for dear life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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