jags on tour Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Livvy have changed their stadium name again to the energy assets arena haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Tade leaves Saints for Cluj, champions of Romania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Motherwell have offered a deal to Faroe Islands keeper Gunnar Nielson. The new Jakup Mikkelsen? I have just realised that Nielsen was the Manchester City goalie who my close friend was chatting to (lived in the same block of flats) when he had a heart attack. Nielsen was brilliant, called the ambulance and tried his best to revive him. Sadly, my friend had died instantly. I hope he signs for Motherwell as I'd love the chance to meet and thank him personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Richard Foster returns to Ibrox. I was expecting McInnes to re-sign him for Aberdeen. He must be looking forward to visiting Arbroath and Forfar instead. Edit - Bristol City fans thought that McInnes was going to sign him. It seems that they did not rate him! Edited June 27, 2013 by kni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Stevenson Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Richard Foster returns to Ibrox. I was expecting McInnes to re-sign him for Aberdeen. He must be looking forward to visiting Arbroath and Forfar instead. And the daft money that goes with it. 'Mon Ally: bankrupt Sevco! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billko Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Richard Foster returns to Ibrox. I was expecting McInnes to re-sign him for Aberdeen. He must be looking forward to visiting Arbroath and Forfar instead. Good signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Stevenson Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Good signing In the circumstances, is he though? They are losing £1M a month according to their own accounts. Another high earner is not desperately needed for winning SFL2 against the challenge of East Fife. Derek McInnes said at the weekend that his budget at Bristol City was eight times his budget at Aberdeen, so Foster will be on ridiculous money for the level he will be playing at. Of course, they do have the same pretensions to Cup glory that they spouted last pre-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hosie Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 In the circumstances, is he though? They are losing £1M a month according to their own accounts. Another high earner is not desperately needed for winning SFL2 against the challenge of East Fife. Derek McInnes said at the weekend that his budget at Bristol City was eight times his budget at Aberdeen, so Foster will be on ridiculous money for the level he will be playing at. Of course, they do have the same pretensions to Cup glory that they spouted last pre-season. They could be out of two of the three cup competitions before they can actually register their new signings on September 1st. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billko Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 In the circumstances, is he though? They are losing £1M a month according to their own accounts. Another high earner is not desperately needed for winning SFL2 against the challenge of East Fife. Derek McInnes said at the weekend that his budget at Bristol City was eight times his budget at Aberdeen, so Foster will be on ridiculous money for the level he will be playing at. Of course, they do have the same pretensions to Cup glory that they spouted last pre-season. Why should they not think they can win one of the cup comps. Aberdeen are in a financial mess and another who could be in big trouble so no suprise the budget is so low for Mciness. Don't think Foster will be on huge wages and sure financially they are affordable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantB Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Why should they not think they can win one of the cup comps. Aberdeen are in a financial mess and another who could be in big trouble so no suprise the budget is so low for Mciness. Don't think Foster will be on huge wages and sure financially they are affordable. Aberdeen have made some decent signings and I fancy them to do well this season. As for Sevco, it's really laughable that the likes of Gretna could scoosh the 3rd Division raking up all sorts of points and goalscoring records with SFL standard players and Fat Sally couldn't do anything like the same with about 40x Gretna's budget. I'm willing to wager that Sevco wont get anywhere near QoS's achievements last season in Div 2 either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billko Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Aberdeen have made some decent signings and I fancy them to do well this season. As for Sevco, it's really laughable that the likes of Gretna could scoosh the 3rd Division raking up all sorts of points and goalscoring records with SFL standard players and Fat Sally couldn't do anything like the same with about 40x Gretna's budget. I'm willing to wager that Sevco wont get anywhere near QoS's achievements last season in Div 2 either. Does it really matter? How Rangers get back to the top of Scottish football is of no interest to me only that they do get there. PS (Well done Gretna for scooshing everything and breaking all sorts of records along the way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Well done Gretna for scooshing everything and breaking all sorts of records along the way There's every chance sevco could in fact break one of Gretna's records. Not one you'd welcome tho', billko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Stevenson Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) Why should they not think they can win one of the cup comps. Aberdeen are in a financial mess and another who could be in big trouble so no suprise the budget is so low for Mciness. Don't think Foster will be on huge wages and sure financially they are affordable. Sevco should be competitive in the Ramsdens, I would imagine, so fair point duly accepted. Aberdeen are, as you say, in the same dire financial state as many other clubs who blew money away over the last 15 years of the SPL, but the comparison with Aberdeen was merely to highlight the Foster situation (as he had come from Bristol City). Rangers couldn't compete with top level Championship clubs when they were in the SPL and blowing tens of millions on player wages. The budget last year of £7M was about 14 times the amount required to win SFL3 and meant they were paying Sandaza £4500 a week. That's excessive, and was reported in the press as pretty much the going rate for all the guys they picked up last summer. The new crop will be looking at similar wages I reckon. Can you explain to me how running a £1M defecit each month is "affordable"? (Unless the Club were lying to the AIM market when posting the 6-month accounts. Surely not.....). Edited June 26, 2013 by David Stevenson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 How is losing £1M a month running an "affordable" budget? Unless they were lying to the AIM market when posting the 6-month accounts. Surely not...... It's unlikely that Rangers are losing a £1m a month now. The initial losses would have reflected the costs of paying off Oldco's footballing debts (including transfer fees) and professional advisers' fees that would be been high due to the AIM listing (underwriters etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billko Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 There's every chance sevco could in fact break one of Gretna's records. Not one you'd welcome tho', billko. What record is that? Sevco should be competitive in the Ramsdens, I would imagine, so fair point duly accepted. Aberdeen are, as you say, in the same dire financial state as many other clubs who blew money away over the last 15 years of the SPL, but the comparison with Aberdeen was merely to highlight the Foster situation (as he had come from Bristol City). Rangers couldn't compete with top level Championship clubs when they were in the SPL and blowing tens of millions on player wages. The budget last year of £7M was about 14 times the amount required to win SFL3 and meant they were paying Sandaza £4500 a week. That's excessive, and was reported in the press as pretty much the going rate for all the guys they picked up last summer. The new crop will be looking at similar wages I reckon. Can you explain to me how running a £1M defecit each month is "affordable"? (Unless the Club were lying to the AIM market when posting the 6-month accounts. Surely not.....). Ramsdens cup will do just fine David but you just never know in football what other cups we might be competitive in. Some of the games and football played by Rangers was very poor last season and alot of these guys did under perform in this division but i look at the SPL and Celtic winning the title with the lowest points total since the split was introduced and this was without a Rangers in the league so under performing is not just a problem just for Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Stevenson Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) It's unlikely that Rangers are losing a £1m a month now. The initial losses would have reflected the costs of paying off Oldco's footballing debts (including transfer fees) and professional advisers' fees that would be been high due to the AIM listing (underwriters etc). True, but on the other hand those figures would have included the bulk of the season ticket income which would have been the biggest single element of income for the season. They really haven't cut back much at all on the Club infrastructure that they inherited; no significant redundancies were made at any stage (unless you count Gordon Smith). The playing budget was sliced but it was still probably more than the rest of the SFL combined and likely the second biggest budget in Scottish football. The return on that "investment" was dismal. Obviously (like billko) they are looking to make an impact in the Cup competitions but the experience of last season should temper those thoughts. The only good results that they had were beating Alloa and Motherwell at Ibrox (the latter may have been the best and worst performances of the two teams all season). Nicky Clark should do the business for them but while he was fantastic last season, his previous goals tally was distinctly unimpressive at 9 goals in 86 games (http://en.wikipedia....iki/Nicky_Clark). Edited June 26, 2013 by David Stevenson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeehon Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Calvin Zola could well hit double figures, along with a player like Niall McGinn upfront, Aberdeen could easily be looking at second place this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Stevenson Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Calvin Zola could well hit double figures, along with a player like Niall McGinn upfront, Aberdeen could easily be looking at second place this year. There isn't an awful lot between the teams outside the obvious candidate for Champions, so you could be right. However, they've been saying that in Aberdeen each pre-season (well, maybe 3rd rather than 2nd) for a couple of decades now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 There isn't an awful lot between the teams outside the obvious candidate for Champions, so you could be right. However, they've been saying that in Aberdeen each pre-season (well, maybe 3rd rather than 2nd) for a couple of decades now.... I think they have a decent manager now though. Of course it may take him a season to to get the team playing the way he wants it to as I'm not sure he is an "instant impact" manager, more the kind that builds things up. Top six with maybe a decent cup run maybe for this season and pushing on next season. But as you say the lot outside of Celtic are much of a muchness so you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantB Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Does it really matter? How Rangers get back to the top of Scottish football is of no interest to me only that they do get there. PS (Well done Gretna for scooshing everything and breaking all sorts of records along the way) The bit in bold worries me as no Jags fan would ever say such a thing. Personally I wouldn't have them in Division 3. You sure you're on the right forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Stevenson Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 The bit in bold worries me as no Jags fan would ever say such a thing. Personally I wouldn't have them in Division 3. You sure you're on the right forum? I think you'll find we are his "second" team as his boy plays in the youth set-up at some level (sorry, can't remember which). We've had plenty non-Jags on the forum (or fora) over the years. Whatever happened to RedV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantB Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I think you'll find we are his "second" team as his boy plays in the youth set-up at some level (sorry, can't remember which). We've had plenty non-Jags on the forum (or fora) over the years. Whatever happened to RedV? I feel unclean. I can tolerate any teams's fans (even Celtic at a push) but Sevco are a step too far for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 God almighty! our forums are being badly polluted by Sevco fans??? Feel so disgustingly dirty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawleffErskeneDoohlan_Inc Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 How Rangers get back to the top of Scottish football is of no interest to me only that they do get there. The R word died as a club a year ago bill, k.o.'d you could say. Scottish football does not need a strong sevco, or a weak one either for that matter. Death to sevco. One Team In Glasgow :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billko Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 The bit in bold worries me as no Jags fan would ever say such a thing. Personally I wouldn't have them in Division 3. You sure you're on the right forum? I feel unclean. I can tolerate any teams's fans (even Celtic at a push) but Sevco are a step too far for me. You sound like a Sellik fan and i can see why you might have a soft spot for them I also understand why you dislike my club but this happens when your so successful. Thistle/Sellik fan Rangers /Thistle fan. We at least have one thing in common in that we both like Thistle. God almighty! our forums are being badly polluted by Sevco fans??? Feel so disgustingly dirty. Think you will find that when you register the forum welcomes all football fans even the moronic element like yourself is welcomed. The R word died as a club a year ago bill, k.o.'d you could say. Scottish football does not need a strong sevco, or a weak one either for that matter. Death to sevco. One Team In Glasgow :-) You will find the club you are talking about is very much alive even if it doesn't sit well with you. Scottish football doesn't need a strong Rangers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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