Munro's, Great Western Road

[alx]

A mate of mine lives near the old Botany and has a dug. This used to involve sneaky pints when walking the dog around Maryhill. Most of the pubs in Maryhill are spot on and not full of nutters (eccentric maybe). Politician / Viking / First and Last / Rams Head / Maryhill Tavern /Kelvin Dock / Strathmore all seem ok to me. I'm used to swankier pubs but I've got family from Maryhill so maybe a bit biased.

[peagreenboy]

Of course, putting down Dundee makes Maryhill a desirable place to be. Can't argue against that logic.

 

Oh no, peagreenboy, it doesn't! You see, by comparing the area of Glasgow I lived in for twenty-two years to the one I currently live in, I can see that, actually, Dundee's a feck sight better off -

• The percentage of people classed as income deprived in 2005 was 30% in Maryhill, whilst it was 19% in Dundee East.
  
• The pecentage of people aged 22-49 claiming key benefits was 32.8%, compared to 22.1%.
  

Whereas, in 2010, the percentage of people in Maryhill living within 500 metres of a derelict site in Maryhill was 86.9%. It was 25% in Dundee East.

 

In 2002, Maryhill was in the top three areas IN BRITAIN for deprivation. Anyone think it's improved since?

 

But nevermind facile comparisons. I find it hard to beleive anyone thinks Maryhill actually is, as the song says, "wonderful". In 2011-12, Maryill police reported 21 serious assaults, 8 robberies or assaults with an attempt to rob, 85 people ticketed for public urination, 14 sex offences recorded, and 401 reported with Public Drunkeness. How many people that sing that song every week actually live in the area? They must be singing it with tongues firmly in cheek. Or be blind to dropped litter/dog shite/smashed windows etc, etc.

 

Let's not forget that the 1965 Highway Plan For Glasgow intended Maryhill Road to be turned into a concrete esape route to the Trossachs. Of course most of the housing was flattened before that idea was abandoned. But a cursory look the road at any given rush hour will reveal the area to be nothing but gridlocked vehicles ... and not much else.

 

Does no-one else think of the irony of travelling away and signing "Greenock's/Dundee's/Wherever's a Shitehole ..." No? No-one?

 

Outrageous! I'm just a shit-stirrer of the highest order! Keep on enjoying your sticky floored public houses and looking down on everywhere else in Scotland as dumps. Call Dundee "Scumdee", and disregard me as a tosser, because twenty years of living in Maryhill isn't long enough to have an opinion of the place.

Edited December 15, 2013 by peagreenboy

[jlsarmy]

Is this forum a party political broadcast ?,used to work in Dundee,don't think I would like to live there !,Maryhill must be wonderful because it's the home of Partick Thistle,better pub next door to Munros is the Roxy better prices for beer,better food and they also support Ptfc financially by advertising in the programme unlike corporate pub groups like Munros

[Blackpool Jags]

 

I should've stopped reading there. It would've saved me reading the pseudo-socialist claptrap.

 

I go out my way to avoid pointless slanging matches on here, despite smug dross like this. I'll simply say that, whoever you are in real life, you let yourself down quite badly by posting things that are clearly intended to taunt perfectly good and normal folk who follow Thistle. If your world is better than mine and that of others, then simply be satisfied with your lot and make the effort to avoid scoffing at fellow Thistle fans and their choice of pub for no good reason.

[redandyellowarmy]

We miss you so much, please come back!

 

Of course, the S&G can't compete with the luxuries of Yoker.

 

Why are you so unbelievably precious about the Star and Garter? Some people aren't going to like it. Get over it.

[mrD]

TBF - I'm sure comparisons between the worst areas in the Scottish Index of Multiple Deprivation in either Dundee or Glasgow would reveal similar things.

 

The cliche is that football is a working class sport, but there is no 'is-ness' about it - football culture, in its class composition is subject to change, as is how social class itself is defined, at least within sociological indicators of what class is. For example, a lot of association footballs origins lies in the kinda posh schools we generally associate with rugby football - long before it became the quintessential working class sport, and longer still before than prawn sandwhich brigades., Likewise in regards to class composition itself a lot of the occupations that were amongst the ranks of a football support has changed despite there being some kinda trace of that within the heritage of the club that may not accord with the way the support are now. For example, the steelmen as a nickname for motherwell doesn't really have correspondence to the ranks of the supporters now.

 

So its hardly surprising that within a football support, there is going to be all sorts of contradictions, and within our club, this probably gets articulated in terms of the question of whether we are a 'west end club' or a 'north side club' which reveals also locality aspects rather than north side or west end being merely signifiers for class. I mean at the end of the day, our origins lie in playing in Kelvingrove Park,but our success came about when we moved to Maryhill.

 

According to the book the roar of the crowd- possibly he geekiest football book in existence to do with average crowd levels - it was when we moved to Maryhill that our support stepped up massivly, from being a wee diddy non-entity, to having crowds on a par with the old firm (really needs to be seen to be believed!!). We became a Maryhill club that the area took as its own. Obviously maryhill has been decimated over the years, but our associations is shown by the fact of us having a decent amount of supporters from drumchapel and cumbernauld - 2 areas that took a lot of people from Maryhill when it was cleared, not to mention the fact that we still have associations with many people from maryhill who continue to support us.

 

Therefore, it does seem a bit bizarre and at odds with heritage and identity of our club to slag off the area that is intertwined with it - including the pubs that proudly have partick thistle identity at their heart and provide links between partick thistle fans and people from maryhill in general. We all have different tastes, i can't go real ale myself, like a nice ice cold tennents, but im not going to slag off thistle fans who do like that stuff. If we want to start thinking like a big club then a little bit of tolerance about different thistle supporters is in order...

Edited December 15, 2013 by mrD

[ian_mac]

Prick.

Oh they're all coming out now!

 

Give Betty my regards.

[ian_mac]

Why are you so unbelievably precious about the Star and Garter? Some people aren't going to like it. Get over it.

Not precious in the slightest. Charlie Endell's post was obviously a fishing trip. The star doesn't need defending, it's doing fine. I just find it quite amusing when people have a go at the place, while posting under a fake name. I'd love to see them walk in and dish out the abuse personally. The wonders of the internet I guess.

 

Of course, everyone isn't going to like it, if everyone went there it would simply be too busy.

 

But, I don't go out of my way to slag other pubs, purely because I know that these places, like the S&G, are peoples livelihoods. If I don't like a pub, I simply don't drink there again, I don't mince about on forums slagging the place off under a fake name (real courage that).

 

As for the Woodie, a good jags pub, always good banter and good prices, much like the S&G.

[Charlie Endell]

 

Not precious in the slightest. Charlie Endell's post was obviously a fishing trip. The star doesn't need defending, it's doing fine. I just find it quite amusing when people have a go at the place, while posting under a fake name. I'd love to see them walk in and dish out the abuse personally. The wonders of the internet I guess.

 

Of course, everyone isn't going to like it, if everyone went there it would simply be too busy.

 

But, I don't go out of my way to slag other pubs, purely because I know that these places, like the S&G, are peoples livelihoods. If I don't like a pub, I simply don't drink there again, I don't mince about on forums slagging the place off under a fake name (real courage that).

 

Hilarious.

 

It's you that resorted to personal abuse - I'm just saying I don't like a pub - I don't have to deliver that message personally to the management.

 

I wouldn't go on TripAdvisor - being such a hyper-sensitive soul you'll get terribly upset.

Edited December 15, 2013 by Charlie Endell

[lady-isobel-barnett]

Hilarious.

 

It's you that resorted to personal abuse - I'm just saying I don't like a pub - I don't have to deliver that message personally to the management.

 

I wouldn't go on TripAdvisor - being such a hyper-sensitive soul you'll get terribly upset.

 

Tho' not known for my sensitivity I took exception to the last line of your initial post. It's possibly what you wanted but I'm none too clever when it comes to knowing when it's a wind up or not. Anyway you do yourself no favours slagging fellow Jags fans even if only indirectly.

Besides breaking the first law of salesmanship you actually make what might well be cracking premises sound a little less appealing.

[Charlie Endell]

 

 

Tho' not known for my sensitivity I took exception to the last line of your initial post. It's possibly what you wanted but I'm none too clever when it comes to knowing when it's a wind up or not. Anyway you do yourself no favours slagging fellow Jags fans even if only indirectly.

Besides breaking the first law of salesmanship you actually make what might well be cracking premises sound a little less appealing.

Not slagging anyone - it's a jakey pub but I'm not saying everyone that drinks in it is a jake.

[Lambies Lost Doo]

Roxy is also decent especially as you get 2 burgers for 1 with the Thistle match programme.

[lady-isobel-barnett]

Not slagging anyone - it's a jakey pub but I'm not saying everyone that drinks in it is a jake.

 

What is it about the word "indirectly" that you don't understand?

[ian_mac]

Hilarious.

 

It's you that resorted to personal abuse - I'm just saying I don't like a pub - I don't have to deliver that message personally to the management.

 

I wouldn't go on TripAdvisor - being such a hyper-sensitive soul you'll get terribly upset.

The reason why I wouldn't go on trip advisor is maybe because I don't have as much time on my hands as yourself Charlie. Are you one of those guys that gets their phone out and takes a snap of every single meal, pint, dessert etc? Love those guys.

 

You didn't "just say" that you didn't like a pub though, you called it a jakehole.

 

But, you keep going Chas. I reckon that you saying you don't like the place is the best endorsement it can get.

 

I'm sure Munro's would be delighted with the way you've "promoted" their establishment.

 

Hopefully we can get to another Ramsdens Cup Final soon so you can really be back in your element.

[Charlie Endell]

 

The reason why I wouldn't go on trip advisor is maybe because I don't have as much time on my hands as yourself Charlie. Are you one of those guys that gets their phone out and takes a snap of every single meal, pint, dessert etc? Love those guys.

 

You didn't "just say" that you didn't like a pub though, you called it a jakehole.

 

But, you keep going Chas. I reckon that you saying you don't like the place is the best endorsement it can get.

 

I'm sure Munro's would be delighted with the way you've "promoted" their establishment.

 

Hopefully we can get to another Ramsdens Cup Final soon so you can really be back in your element.

It is a jakehole.

 

I've never posted a review on TripAdvisor in my puff.

 

[The Sunnylaw Jag]

Ok thanks for helping me decide to drink in the City Centre from now on to get away from you lot.

[ian_mac]

It is a jakehole.

 

I've never posted a review on TripAdvisor in my puff.

Groundbreaking debating tactics at work here.

 

Keep repeating yourself and it might actually come true? Superb.

[Charlie Endell]

 

Groundbreaking debating tactics at work here.

 

Keep repeating yourself and it might actually come true? Superb.

If the S&G isn't a jakey pub f*ck knows how much of a dive a place would need to be to qualify for that description.

 

It's on a par with the Quarter Gill, Denholms, Alpen Lodge etc.

[lady-isobel-barnett]

If the S&G isn't a jakey pub f*ck knows how much of a dive a place would need to be to qualify for that description.

 

Maybe by branching out and actually serving jakeys in the first place?

[Guy Incognito]

I was in the S&G for the first time yesterday; any port in a storm. It was okay and I might go back sometime but do prefer the more spacious and a better tv screens to watch in Coopers. The pub that was the Wise Monkey and is now the Local Urban Achievers Club is sterile and pish. I had the experience of being stared at in The Pewter Pot a few years back too. Is the Woodside Inn no long considered by anyone? Overall, though better pubs around Firhill than Ibrox or Parkhead methinks.

 

I popped in after the Aberdeen league game. Local Urban Achievers Club is yet another chrome and glass 'style' bar, complete with a DJ getting jiggy with it on the "decks". Not my scene at all but it was busier than I had ever seen the Wise Monkey on a Saturday afternoon.

 

The public gets what the public wants, I suppose.

[Charlie Endell]

 

 

Maybe by branching out and actually serving jakeys in the first place?

They were certainly serving jakey Celtic fans before the Aberdeen league game - the Celtic game was on the box.

[thornwoodjag]

 

We miss you so much, please come back!

 

Of course, the S&G can't compete with the luxuries of Yoker.

speaking of pubs in yoker,I hear the anchorage is opening up again!

[Garscube Road End]

speaking of pubs in yoker,I hear the anchorage is opening up again!

 

The Anchorage!! God almighty my DAD drank in there when I was a wean!!

[dl1971]

This topic has to be on the podium for one of the most cringe worthy of the forums history.

[distel]

With all these shit pubs around you would think the club would open a decent supporters bar in the stadium!