angry gaz

At one point I thought Keown was going to be our future captain. Injuries and lack of form have made him half the player he was in his start with us. Playing next to the likes of Barton and Devine every week hasn't helped. The loss of Liam lindsay has totally undone us. To be honest there was no confidence left in any of the squad and we had slipped into a spiral of losing and I think the more of them gone the better. The template for a promotion winning team is the same as the last time we came up, young pacy ,attacking with a couple of old heads.Whether that can be built in one pre-season ,...... I doubt it. The first thing we need to do is break the cycle of losing and the mindset we are second best to every team we play. If that means getting rid of as many as possible...so be it

I think huge questions have to be asked over the general fitness and conditioning of our players last season. Never looked to me as if the team was as fit as it could be not only in terms of stamina , the continual running out of puff the last quarter of the games, but also our strength and physicality. Seeing players like Devine and Barton being continually bullied and pushed around during matches wasn't all to do with them being pansies.

still ragin

Understatement of the season there. The decision is about as half hearted as an Adam Barton tackle when we needed a Rowsen like cruncher.

In my opinion the decision is completely half arsed and cowardly.It does nothing to take the club forward.They have given Archie an impossible task. Asking a manager to re build and entire squad from scratch and get promotion in a season is ludicrous and unfair. If they had faith in him as a manager they would have given him two or three years to do so . It is a cop out from making the hard decision to sack him and shows a lack of leadership. Saying "lessons have been learned " is a load of patronising p1sh.Was he not allowed to learn any lessons before.When GerryB said at HT in the Livi match our plan is to get the ball wide and stretch them we all knew what was coming. Left wing ,right wing left wing then a hoof into the middle....same crap all season ,they learned nothing. They have not backed Archie at all, he has an impossible task with the time scale he has.He should have been backed properly with two years or sacked. Lack of balls and leadership.

I'm now pessimistically optimistic

We live to fight another day. Good football first twenty five minutes but without a single descent cross.Our final ball waspoor all day.Fell right out of it after that and it looked like curtains. Glad to see archie left The fish and Dools on the pitch this time .Conners physicality made a difference. Dools scored with about the only good cross we put in all day and from then we lifted ourselves back into it. Edwards strike was excellent and what a relief.We won without any real outstanding performances but dragged our selves back into it after a poor middle section of the game with great effort .I thought Cerny's handling and fielding of the ball all day was great and one terrific one on one save too. A lot of the same old failings there but we battled and battled until the end. A chink of hope

I admire Motherwell. Unlike us, they play with no inferiority complex. McInnes is vastly over-rated.

Chic very emotional in this one https://planetradio.co.uk/clyde/sport/football-news/john-lambie-was-like-a-father-to-me-says-chic-charnley/

My heart sank when I heard this.A man and a club made for each other .R.I.P Johnny and thank you so much for some of the best moments and memories we'll ever have as Jags fans.

I feel exactly the same.Nothing used to stop me getting to Firhill but it's an absolute effort to go now.Not only because of results but also the style of football is dire. It may be a higher standard of football but it reminds me relatively of the last days of the Bunnet. It's soul destroying.

Had loose bowels since the 0-3 Motherwell game

That tactic !!!!!.........REPEAT, REPEAT,FAIL .LOSE

In the pub and I might never leave.A team and a manager paralysed by fear. Thought the subs were bizarre.The goal an absolute disgrace. Given the current Stats is there another team in Britain that wouldn't have changed their manager by now. Repeat and repeat and repeat the same game pattern same weird substitutions same mistakes same everything. That's what's getting to me .

The problem is when we do pass we do everything far too slow. Every pass seems delayed that fraction of a second too long compared with other teams. We need up the intensity levels that we are playing at for the full length of the match.I fer the worst today and couldn't hazard a guess at what the team, formation,shape Archie will put out but repeating the same failing team tactics and attitude is not an option.

If we get the expected gubbing from Killie on Saturday then it's not going to be pleasant.I think we'll hear some real anti-Archie sentiment coming out of the stands for the first time.I personally don't want to hear that . Some unpleasant times ahead

Getting Palace, West Brom and us relegated really would be something.

The teams below us last season have improved. Archie as a manager is very easy to figure out by the opposition. injuries to key players. Archie failed completely to reignite the team after our disaster in the top six . The spell playing Barton in midfield . Fitness levels. Our "Big" signings have been p1ss poor Lack of a leader on the park. All season ,piss poor substitutions. Awful team selections The attitude of the players has been a disgrace An obsession from the manager of hitting the ball continually from side to side instead of even occasionally going through the middle. No Liam Lindsay Kingsley.

totally agree.I don't think it is possible to have Archie as manager on Saturday now.There is no way back . I would be looking at someone like John Hughes until the end of season ,just about anyone to be honest.

Keeping Archie until the end of the season is no longer any sort of an option.

My Heart goes out to the fans that went up there tonight. Need two subs and an attacking attitude at half time. If we dont get anything from this then , and Ive never said this before ,Archie should go ,even at this point of the season.

Hearts a goal up at Dens inside 3 mins 1:1 Dundee are well up for it

Same patterns repeat and repeat themselves ".Partick Thistle nil " has never been truer. Einstein said, "doing the same thing repeatedly, and expecting different results is the definition of insanity,"

Nicky Walker mibby?

1The rendition of Red/n/yellow army after we won the league in the Star and Garter . 2 Alan Hansen rolling in a last minute penalty to win the game 4-3 against the current buns 3 Geordie's winner in the last minute a porkheid. Best away Thistle support ever.