Tom Stronach Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 (edited) Today's pathetic and utterly toothless performance has taken my anger to a new level. I'm currently in my 18th season following Thistle and I'm at the end of my tether. IMO the board are incompetent and are content with running our club into the ground, I think we have an idiot for a manager who constantly patronisies and lies to our support. Our fans offer absolutely no support to the players, we pick on individuals (Boyle) we don't sing anymore, we don't travel in numbers like we used to. It's got to the stage where I have to beg H*n pals to come to games with me, as no jags fans from my area are interested anymore. They've simply had enough. Sadly, I'm at the same stage where not only do I not care about Thistle, but I actually have contempt for us. I probably won't be back this season as going to games only makes me miserable and bitter. The sooner my hometown has a professional team to support, the better. Edited August 21, 2010 by admin1 Please do not state things as fact if they are your own opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy1967 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Today's pathetic and utterly toothless performance has taken my anger to a new level. I'm currently in my 18th season following Thistle and I'm at the end of my tether. IMO the board are incompetent and are content with running our club into the ground, I think we have an idiot for a manager who constantly patronisies and lies to our support. Our fans offer absolutely no support to the players, we pick on individuals (Boyle) we don't sing anymore, we don't travel in numbers like we used to. It's got to the stage where I have to beg H*n pals to come to games with me, as no jags fans from my area are interested anymore. They've simply had enough. Sadly, I'm at the same stage where not only do I not care about Thistle, but I actually have contempt for us. I probably won't be back this season as going to games only makes me miserable and bitter. The sooner my hometown has a professional team to support, the better. What team would that be Tom ? In fact don't answer if some people have their way we will be playing in East kilbride shortly ! That will be the day our club dies should that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKennan Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 The sooner my hometown has a professional team to support, the better. I spent 23 years of my life in EK. If there's enough of a support to sustain a professional team in EK I'll be very pleased and very surprised, Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 (edited) I was at the Morton game. I went alone because the usual suspects were either all out on the piss the night before, had to trail round the shops with the missus or are skint and weren't answering their mobiles. The lack of skill, enthusiasm, creativity, confidence, dedication, concentration or co-operative, organised, constructive, team-work one might expect to see from professional* football players was deeply frustrating. I've been following Thistle for 27 years and 17 days and am all too familiar with this state of mind. In my opinion the Board of Directors are doing their best to safe-guard the financial security of the club and I appreciate the difficult task that this must be. That is not to say I agree with all their polices in acheiving that goal nor do I beleive that others might not do better. I am, for example gravely concerned about their plans for our beloved main stand and have doubts about their abilities to generate innovative ideas to commercially grow a successful "community club". However, in the absence of a "white knight" lottery winner, or a descendant of a ******* child of Mary Hill returning from excile in Moscow as an uber rich oligarch offering to donate a bob or two, I wish Mr. Cowan and his board nothing but the best of goodwill and applaud them in, at the very least, stepping up to the plate in these trying times. Mr McCall is no fool. And we've had much worse... Benny Rooney? Derek effin Johnston!?!?! He has in the past produced some good teams for our club and others. Nevertheless, I am still to be convinced he found his "home" at Firhill and has much work to do to meet the standards proven possible on a shoe string budget by Mr Lambie, let alone exceed them. Much is being said on other forums on this site about the decline in performance since The King of Spain's departure. As an apprentice of the Lambie method of management, of which much emphasis was put on team-spirit and "enjoying comin to their work", I wonder if in Gerry's absence Ian is able to create the happy, boisterous but hard working atmosphere in which Lambie's teams thrived. I once met Mr. McCall in a Byres Road pub. I was pished and so was he. I think it was around the time he was the Airdrie ( spit! )or Falkirk ( boak! ) boss. The conversation went something like.... Me: Awright? Ian: Awright? Me: Your doing well with Your team Ian: Aye Me: What the f**k you doing wi' that shower o' sh**e? Not fancy a gig at the jolly ol' jags? Ian: (laughs) thistle? Me: aye, why no'? Y'played for us and You live local. Ian: na, nae chance. Thistle going one way. I'm going the other. Me: Fairy Nuff pal, see you in the cup final. Ian: (laughs) ...And fair play to him, since that conversation i think he made the cup final with Dundee united and we sank like a Guinness jobbie to the second division. Regardless, he's the gaffer now so, c'mon tae f**k ya wee chubster I'm rootin for you all the way to another cup final! Getintaerum! The only way to get atmosphere back to Firhill is to erect a big fence three qurters of the way along the Jackie Husband and get the away fans out from behind the goal and up close and personal for a right good sing song and banter battle. Re-open the main stand for families and those offended by strong language. I just don't buy this "police say no can do", health and safety arguement. I was in the main stand at Cappielow today within pie throwing distance of the Morton support and walking on fire friendly wooden beams. Get it sorted Mr Cowan or one might suspect closure of the main stand is just to get us used to it not being there. Picking on players is all good. Builds character and makes them play better. " OHHHH BOBBY BOBBY! Bobby Bobby Bobby Bobby Bobby LAW!" As for singing, a quarter bottle of Glen's, add one bottle of strike cola and it should be a problem no more. But even without the bevvy, show a bit of back-bone, lead and others will follow. Belt it out son, GAUN YERSEL! As for numbers, build it and they shall come. It is a shame to see a fall in supporters busses and I figure that is in part due to similar destruction of character and sanitization of atmosphere in other clubs grounds as has happened to Firhill. But for the past thirty years the turnout of jags support has been much the same. I have no doubt if we were to play a title decider against Raith Rovers on the last day of the season there would be an all ticket sell out at Firhill. And if we were to win promotion at the Dundee away Game the week before we'd need more than the stand behind the goal to accomodate us all. The "Fill Firhill" campaign at the end of last season was a sham. If they had set the prices at a fiver, then maybe a few extra troops might have made the effort. Jags fans are too savvy not to recognise a sentimental tug on the loyalty strings as nothing but a cheap shot at raising revenue for f**k all in return. Most of the people I know are sad old firm fans. I've had them tag along to watch the jags on many occaisions and suffered their patronizing remarks at the quality of football on show and derisory comments about atmosphere or attendance. B*ll**ks to 'em! For they will never know the joy of getting one over on either half of their heinous tribe.... "Who put the ball in the celtic net? Geordie, Geordie! Who put the ball in the celtic net? Geordie, Geordie Shaw!!!"... Tuesday 4th May 1993 : Thistle 3 rangers 0... wouldn't swap it for the world mate. Why...? Because I do care. I Fookin love Thistle. I might, maybe even more often than not, despair that our centre forward has a the shooting accuracy of a one armed, fingerless, cross-eyed sniper, lament that our centre half has a heid like a ten boab bit and cannae clear his bar tab never mind his lines and disgust that our management be bereft of tactical or technical knowledge, but I fookin love my team. Can't help it. It's in me and will never leave me. I probably won't be at every game this season, I simply can't afford every game home and away like I used to. I'll count myself lucky if I make it along to more than half, even if the results do depress me. Why...? Because for me, yes the football is important. I love to watch good football. I love to watch footage of Best, Pele, Maradonna, Croyff, Charnley et al.... But supporting a club is about more than football. It's about passion, where you're from, who you are, what you chose or what chose you. It's about taking pride in that and having self respect and ambiton and beleif and dedication and an interest in the heritage, provenance and history and hope for the future. Above all it's other charms Partick Thistle has the potential to do great things, professionally or not. If you can't see that and get excited at the prospect then beat it! Go and follow the "East Kilbride Chanty Rastlers" and good luck with that ya soul-less b*s*a*d! ONE TEAM IN GLASGOW! ... How could I ever even imagine about supporting anyone else? * maybe they do only get a quarter of the wages Dundee's player receive. But they're still getting paid!!! Edited September 12, 2010 by ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GrantB Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 @ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz What a post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantB Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Today's pathetic and utterly toothless performance has taken my anger to a new level. I'm currently in my 18th season following Thistle and I'm at the end of my tether. IMO the board are incompetent and are content with running our club into the ground, I think we have an idiot for a manager who constantly patronisies and lies to our support. Our fans offer absolutely no support to the players, we pick on individuals (Boyle) we don't sing anymore, we don't travel in numbers like we used to. It's got to the stage where I have to beg H*n pals to come to games with me, as no jags fans from my area are interested anymore. They've simply had enough. Sadly, I'm at the same stage where not only do I not care about Thistle, but I actually have contempt for us. I probably won't be back this season as going to games only makes me miserable and bitter. The sooner my hometown has a professional team to support, the better. I'm pretty much at the end of my tether with the way the club are being run into the ground. I'll be at the Falkirk game on Tuesday and if I don't see players busting a gut for 90 mins and showing some pride in the jersey (win, lose or draw), that'll probably be me for the season with the exception of QoS away. However, no matter how bad we get, there is absolutely no way that I will ever lower myself to watching Livingston on a Saturday instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartanjag Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 @ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz When we set up Forum gold. This goes straight in at number one. Fantastic post. I don my Red & Yellow hat to you sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisb Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 @ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz If Carlsberg did forum posts ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 The sooner my hometown has a professional team to support, the better. If you feel that way why not go & see EK Thistle every week? I am from EK & will return there soon, but no way would I be interested in supporting EK "Professionals" Once a Jag always a Jag!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 @ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz What a post! If this forum awarded Pullitzer prizes you would surely get one, sir.It serves as a reminder of what a true fan should really be like. It fair had me greetin' into my Jags scarf! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefulpuntgeorge Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Brilliant post up there chewinggum! WE ARE THISTLE - I will always go to games because I bloody love the place and that rella strip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggyman Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 I'm pretty much at the end of my tether with the way the club are being run into the ground. I'll be at the Falkirk game on Tuesday and if I don't see players busting a gut for 90 mins and showing some pride in the jersey (win, lose or draw), that'll probably be me for the season with the exception of QoS away. However, no matter how bad we get, there is absolutely no way that I will ever lower myself to watching Livingston on a Saturday instead. You might have too if there are no Jags to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig-W Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 The same (lengthy) post quoted in its entirety, five times. Gies a break guys. You want to reply to a previous post? Just use @thepostersname. Get with the lingo dudes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernsoul Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 In my opinion the Board of Directors are doing their best to safe-guard the financial security of the club and I appreciate the difficult task that this must be. That is not to say I agree with all their polices in acheiving that goal nor do I beleive that others might not do better. I am, for example gravely concerned about their plans for our beloved main stand and have doubts about their abilities to generate innovative ideas to commercially grow a successful "community club". I don't care if they are doing their best. Their best isn't good enough, as has been shown in the past and up to now in seeling half our assets in the Propco shambles. Certain members of the BoD have clearly demonstrated that they are unable to run a football club competently and have an extremely poor relationship/communication with the fans. However, in the absence of a "white knight" lottery winner, or a descendant of a ******* child of Mary Hill returning from excile in Moscow as an uber rich oligarch offering to donate a bob or two, I wish Mr. Cowan and his board nothing but the best of goodwill and applaud them in, at the very least, stepping up to the plate in these trying times. How are they stepping up to the plate? Its their job, of which they are not good at. I won't applaud anything Cowan and Hughes do, they don't deserve it. Full stop. I wouldn't even applaud them if they suddenly decided to step down from the BoD. It should of been done years ago. It's a sad day when certain folk on the BoD get completely unjust and undeserved praise. They have a complete disregard for the fans and what they think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennythistle Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 @ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz had been thinking how i was going to reply to the initial post. you sir, have saved me the bother. wonderful post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy davie Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 ..supporting a club is about more than football. It's about passion, where your from, who you are, what you chose or what chose you. It's about taking pride in that and having self respect and ambiton and beleif and dedication and an interest in the heritage, provenance and history and hope for the future. Above all it's other charms Partick Thistle has the potential to do great things, professionally or not. If you can't see that and get excited at the prospect then beat it! Go and follow the "East Kilbride Chanty Rastlers" and good luck with that ya soul-less b*s*a*d! ONE TEAM IN GLASGOW! ... How could I ever even imagine about supporting anyone else? Talk about a call to arms!!!!! Phenominal stuff!!!!! They should put this up in the boardroom, in the manager's office and in the dressing room. Remind them every day that this is the cause. This is what it's all about. This is worth fighting for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven H Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Talk about a call to arms!!!!! Phenominal stuff!!!!! They should put this up in the boardroom, in the manager's office and in the dressing room. Remind them every day that this is the cause. This is what it's all about. This is worth fighting for. The post you responded to has fair perked me up after yesterdays gutless performance, your post backs it up very well and I agree with you both 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 (edited) @ northernsoul The intricacies of the property deal and how it might shape our beautiful home are a little worrying, but then I am not overly familiar with the plans in thier entirety. To the best of my knowledge, two public consultations and one press release asides, communication on this important topic has been scarce. Perhaps I have missed something in the matchday programmes or failed to find information on the web sites. Perhaps it is too late to raise concerns now with planning applications now lodged with the full backing of The Jags Trust. But, if they were really proud and 100% happy with the plans there should be pictures and presentations plastered all round the concourse in the J.H. on matchdays and a dedicated page on the website. I have no objection to flats on the city end so long as there is some room for a small stand ( 1000 seats? ) for matchday supporters. I like the Beersbrige Annex flats, reminiscent of "The Chealsea Village" at Stamford Bridge. ... mibbeez aye, mibbeez naw. However, alternatives for the second phase, developement of the main stand could and should be considered. David Beattie says, “Some people would want us to keep the original stand as a historic monument but we have to be realistic. It is 100 years old and large parts of it can’t be used for safety reasons.”*. No one likes to see this splendid building lying empty. One cannot ignore the part it holds in the heritage of our club and the distinctive atmosphere it has in our stadium. It is a monuement, a proud monuement, so why not a working monuement. It may be a little shabby but it's history is something we should aim to cherish and develope not bulldozer and ignore. Surely though, it has a chance of being put to use in its original function as accomodation for viewing sporting events and now, catering to the needs of the modern day spectators. It was full not so long ago for our cup ties with rangers and I understand "The Warriors" filled it for a derby against Edinburgh at the turn of the year. I fear the plans in place (i really don't know what they are) for the main stand may be short sighted, a quick fix solution that may stunt future growth and success of the club however distant that may seem now. We may be averageing 2-3000 crowds at the moment but let's not lose aspirations to attract and be able to accomodate much more. I understand that housing, retail and office space may bring continued steady income into the coffers, but is a gun really being held to our head on this one? Is there no other options or ideas to generate cash from the space. I'm thinking.... Executive boxes at Firhill? Prawn sandwiches brigade? Why the fook not?!?!? maybe keep the posh rugby types happily paying us rent or they might scuttle off to scotstoun full time. Rent them out to local businesses to keep the revenue streams flowing and keep the prominent purpose of "the grun" watchin the big match! Messers. Cowan, Hughes and Prentice were all major contributors to "Save The Jags". That was "stepping up to the plate". Who else is going step in? Has anyone offered? Do You think anyone would be willing to do it full time, buck shee, and better? Cowan's a lawyer, Hughes and Prentice are accountants, Beattie's a baker, Bannerman's a Property developer ( always worth the watching in my opinion, property developers . Nae offence intended to G.B.).... That's their JOBS. You think Thistle can afford to employ high flying executives on six figure salaries to do the "job"? ..... that's mental bud. The last time we were able to properly employ a C.E.O. was Jez Moxey back in the early nineties. He turned profit for the club but in the end we still coudn't afford to keep him. Thistle have no cash therefore it is a good thing that some are willing to invest. Just as the fan pays his money and expects a good team the investors are intitled to some return for their money. Selling the family jewels? I don't think we've lost the lot. Maybe just pawned a few to see us through the forseeable. Like watching yesterdays performance was anything but value for money, the investors investment might go tits up if it's intended purpose is not considered wisely. Just as much as I love the team. I FOOKIN love firhill too. My first game was spent in the home enclosure. 50p into the ground 20p to stand behind the dugouts. Then graduated to section C, centre stand. Then into the shed when I was old enough. I've been a mascot running out with super Mo-Jo from the old tunnel, a ball boy being spat on from high when it was my turn to man the away shed, I've been a sliver service waiter in the Aitken Suite sweatin ma boz off to tidy up quikly to get out in time to catch the first half...... there is not many places in the world where I feel more at home, familiar with, comfortable, welcome and happy. It's changed alot over the years. Still love it..... maybe it's the stink from the baisin? even that's changed.... *sigh* * source : The Herald 19 Mar 2010 Edited August 22, 2010 by ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 In the main, a good (long) post from ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz. However, the 'defence' of the board and certain persons thereon, is quite baffling and IMO quite wrong. As NorthernSoul commented: I don't care if they are doing their best. Their best isn't good enough, as has been shown in the past and up to now in selling half our assets in the Propco shambles. Certain members of the BoD have clearly demonstrated that they are unable to run a football club competently and have an extremely poor relationship/communication with the fans. How are they stepping up to the plate? Its their job, of which they are not good at. I won't applaud anything Cowan and Hughes do, they don't deserve it. Full stop. I wouldn't even applaud them if they suddenly decided to step down from the BoD. It should of been done years ago. It's a sad day when certain folk on the BoD get completely unjust and undeserved praise. They have a complete disregard for the fans and what they think. Nothernsoul has got it spot on - and as good a post as ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz made on 'all things thistle', a hell of a lot of the problems relating to Thistle and where the club now finds itself, lie directly at the door of those who have inhabited and continue to squat on the PTFC board of dire-ectors. There are certain people on the board who should NEVER be allowed inside Firhill, who use the club to create (at least in their pathetic minds) a "look at me and my huge importance status" persona. IMO, to be on the Board of PTFC should be a huge honour and responsability - and many of the current (and recent) board members have failed spectacularily in their roles and whom continue to cling to power (and shares gifted from the STJ period). Personally speaking I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire, and freely admit I have nothing but contempt and disgust at these supposed "thistle minded" creatures who have over the years contributed greatly through their own incompetence, actions and utterances, to the decline and state we find ourselves in as a (once great) club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erzamacaroonbars Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 What a good post ! This makes up for all the negative drivel we not only watch but have to read on here also! When you have a team, thats it, you can't pick and choose and change when the going gets tough - good grief we would have had no fans left if thats how we all behaved ove the years! It would be great to have been born in Barcelona and have that link to such a good team but I wasn't and it was destined to be Thistle. I can live with that, whatever happens because any alternative is just unthinkable! As they say down here at the bottom of the world " Good on You " Mr Chewingummacaroonbaaaz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldinho Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Talk about a call to arms!!!!! Phenominal stuff!!!!! They should put this up in the boardroom, in the manager's office and in the dressing room. Remind them every day that this is the cause. This is what it's all about. This is worth fighting for. Do you mean phenomenal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy davie Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Do you mean phenomenal? Yes. Yes I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKennan Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Yes. Yes I did. I actually meant 'hormonal'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie inglis Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Today's pathetic and utterly toothless performance has taken my anger to a new level. I'm currently in my 18th season following Thistle and I'm at the end of my tether. IMO the board are incompetent and are content with running our club into the ground, I think we have an idiot for a manager who constantly patronisies and lies to our support. Our fans offer absolutely no support to the players, we pick on individuals (Boyle) we don't sing anymore, we don't travel in numbers like we used to. It's got to the stage where I have to beg H*n pals to come to games with me, as no jags fans from my area are interested anymore. They've simply had enough. Sadly, I'm at the same stage where not only do I not care about Thistle, but I actually have contempt for us. I probably won't be back this season as going to games only makes me miserable and bitter. The sooner my hometown has a professional team to support, the better. I can think of nothing worse than going to a game at firhill just now...you got good pals to pay 15 odd quid for that dross!!!! Wont be me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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