allyo Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 51 minutes ago, BowenBoys said: Misogynistic dinosaurs? One thing I've noticed about the women's football is that the commentators refer to their "lovely smiles" quite a lot. Very Alan Partridge. It rarely happens in men's football, though I have heard it used around African teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legs Like A Spider Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, BowenBoys said: Misogynistic dinosaurs? So if you don't find woman's football entertaining you are misogynistic i.e. hate women. What if you don't find cricket ( men's) entertaining do you then open yourself up to a similar level of name calling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Legs Like A Spider said: So if you don't find woman's football entertaining you are misogynistic i.e. hate women. What if you don't find cricket ( men's) entertaining do you then open yourself up to a similar level of name calling? Slow Friday? Looking to start a fight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legs Like A Spider Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, allyo said: Slow Friday? Looking to start a fight? Not really. Thought it a reasonable question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) The misogynistic dinosaurs reaction was to the statement that it should be "banned completely". It's not entirely clear what was meant by that, but if it referred to women playing football, then I think it's pretty dodgy (though maybe a joke). It wasn't suggesting that anyone should be forced to find it entertaining. Edited June 28, 2019 by allyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 36 minutes ago, Legs Like A Spider said: So if you don't find woman's football entertaining you are misogynistic i.e. hate women. What if you don't find cricket ( men's) entertaining do you then open yourself up to a similar level of name calling? What a stupid response. I called him, (I presume), a misogynistic dinosaur because of posts in this thread. On 6/18/2019 at 7:28 PM, Bobbyhouston said: Sooner it’s banned all the better for men’s game in general, pissing money away with tom boy fitba players , anyone who thinks it’s no shit has no idea of the game On 6/18/2019 at 7:55 PM, Bobbyhouston said: The nation complains about no talent coming through due to no money , limited facilities, cost of pitches etc but we throw or sorry waste money on woman’s fitba when it could be invested in grassroots boys fitba 15 hours ago, Bobbyhouston said: Should be completely banned Not surprised that you leapt to his defence though On 6/15/2019 at 8:45 AM, Legs Like A Spider said: ... I predict that women's football will destroy the men's game. Political correctness will force all teams to have a Womens team and pay them the same. There will be little income from fans and nost teams will be unable to sustain that and will be forced out of business.... you heard it here first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 57 minutes ago, Legs Like A Spider said: So if you don't find woman's football entertaining you are misogynistic i.e. hate women. What if you don't find cricket ( men's) entertaining do you then open yourself up to a similar level of name calling? A feminist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legs Like A Spider Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, allyo said: The misogynistic dinosaurs reaction was to the statement that it should be "banned completely". It's not entirely clear what was meant by that, but if it referred to women playing football, then I think it's pretty dodgy (though maybe a joke). It wasn't suggesting that anyone should be forced to find it entertaining. There you go no fighting required. The banning thing is a bit ridiculous and teams like thistle should have a women's team. My own daughters and friends daughters play. There is a current media campaign built around the world cup that is forcing people to find it entertaining and treat it the same as the men's game which it isn't There is also a recent problem on this forum where a select few police the forum and non conforming views are cut short in a hail of name calling and abuse. If memory serves me right you became a target the other night when the new owner was being discussed and you defended your position well ( and correctly). Anyway the name calling earlier wasn't directed at me so I'll disappear and watch the interesting informed debates unfolding on the forum and not get involved in any squabbling. Edited June 28, 2019 by Legs Like A Spider 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, Legs Like A Spider said: There you go no fighting required. The banning thing is a bit ridiculous and teams like thistle should have a women's team. My own daughters and friends daughters play. There is a current media campaign built around the world cup that is forcing people to find it entertaining and treat it the same as the men's game which it isn't There is also a recent problem on this forum where a select few police the forum and non conforming views are cut short in a hail of name calling and abuse. If memory serves me right you became a target the other night when the new owner was being discussed and you defended your position well ( and correctly). Anyway the name calling earlier wasn't directed at me so I'll disappear and watch the interesting informed debates unfolding on the forum and not get involved in any squabbling. Going to be pedantic here... sorry it's a slow day for me... :-) I agree that it's not the same as the men's game. I wasn't sure what to make of Phil Neville's comment last night that she's "a far better full back than I ever was". But that doesn't necessaily mean that in terms of respect and coverage it shouldn't be treated equally. You could argue that at the moment it has a way to go before it actually justifies that in terms of quality, because it is basically a minority sport with minimal investment compared to the men's game. But I think there is huge scope for development and improvement. I see no reason why the technical qualiy of women's football could not in time be equal to men's. And it's a bit chicken and egg; without the media attention that won't happen. So, I'm happy to see it being given all this coverage and hope it continues. As for name calling on the forum... I hear you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyhouston Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, allyo said: Going to be pedantic here... sorry it's a slow day for me... :-) I agree that it's not the same as the men's game. I wasn't sure what to make of Phil Neville's comment last night that she's "a far better full back than I ever was". But that doesn't necessaily mean that in terms of respect and coverage it shouldn't be treated equally. You could argue that at the moment it has a way to go before it actually justifies that in terms of quality, because it is basically a minority sport with minimal investment compared to the men's game. But I think there is huge scope for development and improvement. I see no reason why the technical qualiy of women's football could not in time be equal to men's. And it's a bit chicken and egg; without the media attention that won't happen. So, I'm happy to see it being given all this coverage and hope it continues. As for name calling on the forum... I hear you Going to be honest here... sorry it's a slow day for me... :-) its absolutely dreadful and a total waste of money plus it’s being forced down our throats , let’s get one thing straight here , the reason it’s getting totally out of hand is because it’s massively funded by government bodies , councils, lottery funding , there’s numerous funding sources , that’s why clubs jump all over it to get the finance I guarantee if you asked the coaches at clubs who have no clue on funding etc they would say to bin the woman’s football as it’s waste of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legs Like A Spider Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, allyo said: Going to be pedantic here... sorry it's a slow day for me... :-) I agree that it's not the same as the men's game. I wasn't sure what to make of Phil Neville's comment last night that she's "a far better full back than I ever was". But that doesn't necessaily mean that in terms of respect and coverage it shouldn't be treated equally. You could argue that at the moment it has a way to go before it actually justifies that in terms of quality, because it is basically a minority sport with minimal investment compared to the men's game. But I think there is huge scope for development and improvement. I see no reason why the technical qualiy of women's football could not in time be equal to men's. And it's a bit chicken and egg; without the media attention that won't happen. So, I'm happy to see it being given all this coverage and hope it continues. As for name calling on the forum... I hear you I respect your ability to put forward a reasoned argument instead of just saying 'you're stupid' or 'you're an arse' but unfortunately we may have to agree to differ slightly. Women's football will improve greatly in technical quality and will be able to offer a form of pure football. At the moment any entertainment in their game comes largely from the amount of errors allowing lots of chances and you could say the men's game is so coached and rigid that much entertainment has been lost. However no amount of coverage will allow women to match the physicality or pace of the men's game and the whole reason you go to Firhill or watch footie on tv is to watch a contact sport being played out alongside a technically gifted game. Whether it's right or wrong the main thing that gets you out of your seat on a Saturday afternoon is two teams physically challenging each other. The yellow and red cards the off the ball stuff the 'atmosphere' generated off the pitch. Anyway as with everything if you enjoy it watch it. If not don't but it shouldn't be forced on people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 How is it being forced on people? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Bobbyhouston said: Going to be honest here... sorry it's a slow day for me... :-) its absolutely dreadful and a total waste of money plus it’s being forced down our throats , let’s get one thing straight here , the reason it’s getting totally out of hand is because it’s massively funded by government bodies , councils, lottery funding , there’s numerous funding sources , that’s why clubs jump all over it to get the finance I guarantee if you asked the coaches at clubs who have no clue on funding etc they would say to bin the woman’s football as it’s waste of time Ask the person who's tied you to a chaitr in front of the TV to please let you go. Ask coaches at English Premier clubs and I'm sure they would say bin the Scottish game as it's a waste of time. Under 10's football is rubbish to watch (unless you're a father of a player). So should we bin that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Legs Like A Spider said: I respect your ability to put forward a reasoned argument instead of just saying 'you're stupid' or 'you're an arse' but unfortunately we may have to agree to differ slightly. Women's football will improve greatly in technical quality and will be able to offer a form of pure football. At the moment any entertainment in their game comes largely from the amount of errors allowing lots of chances and you could say the men's game is so coached and rigid that much entertainment has been lost. However no amount of coverage will allow women to match the physicality or pace of the men's game and the whole reason you go to Firhill or watch footie on tv is to watch a contact sport being played out alongside a technically gifted game. Whether it's right or wrong the main thing that gets you out of your seat on a Saturday afternoon is two teams physically challenging each other. The yellow and red cards the off the ball stuff the 'atmosphere' generated off the pitch. Anyway as with everything if you enjoy it watch it. If not don't but it shouldn't be forced on people. Disagree (partly) with your opinion of the game, but it's your opinion and that's cool. You're an arse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Bobbyhouston said: Going to be honest here... sorry it's a slow day for me... :-) its absolutely dreadful and a total waste of money plus it’s being forced down our throats , let’s get one thing straight here , the reason it’s getting totally out of hand is because it’s massively funded by government bodies , councils, lottery funding , there’s numerous funding sources , that’s why clubs jump all over it to get the finance I guarantee if you asked the coaches at clubs who have no clue on funding etc they would say to bin the woman’s football as it’s waste of time Yeah but the girls who play it wouldn't say that. And isn't that who the funding is there to support? It's not for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyhouston Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, scotty said: Ask the person who's tied you to a chaitr in front of the TV to please let you go. Ask coaches at English Premier clubs and I'm sure they would say bin the Scottish game as it's a waste of time. Under 10's football is rubbish to watch (unless you're a father of a player). So should we bin that? Men/boys football should not be drained of cash to accommodate females , it’s really that simple and my opinion 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, Bobbyhouston said: Men/boys football should not be drained of cash to accommodate females , it’s really that simple and my opinion So your objections ARE gender specific. I'm sure the's a name for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyhouston Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, scotty said: So your objections ARE gender specific. I'm sure the's a name for that. They want to run about playing football get them to self fund , too much money and resource wasted when it could be used for improving grassroots football . Any wonder why we can’t develop young players to be exceptional professionals representing our country 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, Bobbyhouston said: They want to run about playing football get them to self fund , too much money and resource wasted when it could be used for improving grassroots football . Any wonder why we can’t develop young players to be exceptional professionals representing our country << gasp >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firhillista Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Bobbyhouston said: They want to run about playing football get them to self fund , too much money and resource wasted when it could be used for improving grassroots football . Any wonder why we can’t develop young players to be exceptional professionals representing our country If you want a definition of misogyny, here it is. This is shite of the highest order. This country can't produce 'exceptional professionals' because money is spent on the women's game?! What a load of absolute tosh. I don't know who you are, pal, apart from the fact that you appeared on this forum to tell us that the academy was about to be scrapped. You hadn't a clue about that and your view on this is just as wrongheaded. I've read some nonsense on here, but not much as stupid and offensive as this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Self fund? So only women should finance women's football? Is that your idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 Don't give him oxygen. Red dots are medals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 8:39 PM, BowenBoys said: Listening to the radio this evening. Help me with a couple of things. What is 'The Transition'? Where is ones 'Back Shoulder'? Just noticed that there are now "alterations" instead of substitutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 Sport should be for everybody. Your gender, race, religion or sexuality has nothing to do with it. Even your ability or disability should not stop you, Young Robert played wheelchair football, which is not for the faint hearted. It wasn't unusual for wheelchairs to go flying as 2 players went in for crunching tackles and I mean crunching. The teams were mixed with males and females. I notice that Muirfield golf club has finally lifted their ban of not allowing female members. Of course being told they would not be allowed to host any British open tournaments as long as the no female rule was in place might have helped change their minds, against a rule that was in place for more than 270 years. Like everything on the TV if you don't like it, change the channel or switch it of. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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