Sam Leitch Loyal Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/glasgow-cup-proposed-as-vehicle-for-old-firm-fixture.18188401 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Traveller Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Championed by our chairman a month ago as part of the grand plan. Considering the disdain shown by OF clubs for the Glasgow Cup that led to it being recast in its current form, you have to laugh at this being touted as a lifeline for one of them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Murray Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) There will be old firm games this year, a Glasgow cup is one option for them. The other option for them is to organize a tournament and maybe bring over a few English team or decent foreign opposition. Would other thistle fans have any problem with us appearing in the Glasgow cup this year? I think it would be home and away against the other 3 Glasgow clubs and then a final, which would bring in some much needed extra revenue. Edited July 19, 2012 by Alan Murray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Traveller Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 If we go into the meeting committed to getting an equal share of any TV revenue generated, there's certainly no harm in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 As the article says, Celtic & Sevco Rovers (in their previous guise) that insisted this tournament was too much with all the other competitions they played & decided it would be a youth tournament in the future. How times change. Personally i'd veto the idea of making it a senior tournament & encourage QP & Clyde to do same. As far as i'm aware there is no voting structure in the Glasgow FA (not to say it won't be made up though). In all seriousness, why would Clyde & QP want to play Sevco Rovers 4 times in the league then play them in this also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 I'm hopeless at working these things out! How can a Celtic - Sevco game be guaranteed without a mini league with all five teams playing each other twice at least? I can see the Scottish football answer in fixing the draw but apart from that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 We have a league to win... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Traveller Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 We can play a reserve team. It's traditional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigesige00 Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 As an foreigner, I have no knowledge about the Glasgow Cup. However, I was interested in what I read from someone about the way of winnner-decision in the Glasgow Cup. From my memory, someone was writing that the winners were decided by the number of Corners in the case of draws. Am I correct? I think that counting the number of corners is a good way of avoiding too many draws. For example, Goal from outside of PA -- 17 points Goal from inside of PA -- 10 points Corner -- 1 point This scoring system would work well and the number of draws will be drastically reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 I always suspect a derby in the league cup, scottish cup but struggled to think of the other 2...so glasgow cup makes 3 (unless its a return leg set up then 2xglasgow cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 This really does appear to be a totally contrived attempt to get OF games come hell or high water.It would appear that those in favour of this proposal have learnt absolutely nothing from the events of the last few months. What they are essentially saying is that OF supporters are dasically folls who wil rush like the proverbial Gaderne swine to get their fix of hatred and sectarianism. No matter the truth of this assertion to many non-OF fans in Scotland, it does reveal a totally cynical if not morally corrupt perspective, on the part of those who organise proffessional football in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 I'd suspect that they'd attempt to give 90% of prizemoney to the two finalists, and they'd be hoping Zombie Rangers finish in the top two with Celtic. When I was younger I really liked the idea of the Glasgow Cup, and other parts of the country seem to take local tournaments slightly more seriously. Although they're usually pre-season friendlies, like Morton and St Mirren I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Scruff Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 As the article says, Celtic & Sevco Rovers (in their previous guise) that insisted this tournament was too much with all the other competitions they played & decided it would be a youth tournament in the future. How times change. Personally i'd veto the idea of making it a senior tournament & encourage QP & Clyde to do same. As far as i'm aware there is no voting structure in the Glasgow FA (not to say it won't be made up though). In all seriousness, why would Clyde & QP want to play Sevco Rovers 4 times in the league then play them in this also? Money? And presumably they're as likely to play us or Celtic. I don't have a problem with an updated Glasgow Cup, even if it is being redefined primarily as a vehicle for the OF to play each other. It would add a bit of much needed variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 It would be a shambles. Us and Celtic wouldn't take it seriously as we have bigger fish to fry so would field weakened teams, Rangers barely have a team and Celtic fans would no doubt boycott the OF games if not the whole thing as it would be seen as a cash generator for the currants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig-W Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Let them play each other once a month and call it the 'Manifest Destiny Cup', or something. Although, if they could play outside Glasgow, somewhere remote, so the city isn't sullied with all their garbage. Hey! Isn't that great? Glasgow wont have to put up with all the sickening bile and horrible clouds of hate that traditionally descend every Old Firm weekend for years now! Makes me wish I wasn't about to leave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Scruff Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Hey! Isn't that great? Glasgow wont have to put up with all the sickening bile and horrible clouds of hate that traditionally descend every Old Firm weekend for years now! Makes me wish I wasn't about to leave! There are (at least) 2 competing theories on this one. The first is that the Old Firm rivalry acted as a safety valve for releasing tensions that would otherwise have had even more unhealthy outcomes. The other is that it acted as a magnet, promoting such tensions in the first place. This is a bit like the skies over the US in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 - we'll be able to understand what the situation actually is. I firmly believe that it'll be shown to be the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig-W Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 It would be interesting to compare the statistics concerning violence, domestic abuse, arrests for drunkenness, etc, etc in other cities with major footballing rivalries, such as Manchester, Newcastle, even Edinburgh I suppose. I don't know if it the same but the general feeling of animosity which falls upon this city is palpable, and I am glad on those Old Firm days I don't have to leave the house. That's not something you can experience I guess unless you live in one of those cities for a while to know the difference. Seeing as I 'm moving to Dundee soon I guess I'll find out next season what the place is like during a derby day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 It would be interesting to compare the statistics concerning violence, domestic abuse, arrests for drunkenness, etc, etc in other cities with major footballing rivalries, such as Manchester, Newcastle, even Edinburgh I suppose. I don't know if it the same but the general feeling of animosity which falls upon this city is palpable, and I am glad on those Old Firm days I don't have to leave the house. That's not something you can experience I guess unless you live in one of those cities for a while to know the difference. Seeing as I 'm moving to Dundee soon I guess I'll find out next season what the place is like during a derby day. Can't be that bad. The teams' grounds are in the same street. Imagine what glasgow would be like if Ibrox and Parkhead were next door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck snort Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Don't know why Rangers would want to play Celtic this year. They'll get hammered. Celtic fans I know are desperate to play them and humiliate them this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 We have a league to win... This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Get Lex Grant signed up again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool Jags Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 If they must revive the Glasgow Cup, it should be on a simple knockout basis. Four teams: big clubs - us and the Tims; diddy clubs - QP and newjokehunco FC. To be seeded so that the big clubs get a diddy team in the 'semi-finals'. Strictly no rigging to facilitate a Tims v newjokehunco fundraiser for the latter. To ensure the draw is fairly conducted, Allan Cowan to pull the balls out the bag (fnarr fnarr). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantB Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I'd be all for it if we could put the boot on the other foot and play the manager, Sid and a bunch of u19's kind of like what the h uns did ini the late 80's I reckon we'd still be able to beat Sevco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Any competitive games where you can play your fringe players should be welcome. I'd like us to have a fairly settled first team but the downside to that is you can have up to a dozen of your squad getting little competitive match time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigesige00 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 As an foreigner, I have no knowledge about the Glasgow Cup. However, I was interested in what I read from someone about the way of winnner-decision in the Glasgow Cup. From my memory, someone was writing that the winners were decided by the number of Corners in the case of draws. Am I correct? I think that counting the number of corners is a good way of avoiding too many draws. For example, Goal from outside of PA -- 17 points Goal from inside of PA -- 10 points Corner -- 1 point This scoring system would work well and the number of draws will be drastically reduced. I am very interested in your opinions about my suggestion on the football scoring system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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