The Mighty Quinn Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 cant mind the game off the top of my head. mind he missplaced a couple of passes n had to chase back n every one was shoutin and screamin as if it was a penalty appeal turned down. remember thinkin 'thats a bit of a harsh reaction, craigans been doin that fur 2 yr.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Quinn Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 You backing the manager?? no. hasnt got a clue. cant tinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 no. hasnt got a clue. cant tinker So back the players to the hilt, support the club to the hilt, but the manager, who helped get us up last year with an incredible run of games without defeat, can feck off even though we are still well in the mix to stay up this season. Ok!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Quinn Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 So back the players to the hilt, support the club to the hilt, but the manager, who helped get us up last year with an incredible run of games without defeat, can feck off even though we are still well in the mix to stay up this season. Ok!!! are we in the mix but? players have jobs. they get told what to do. managers can mould them to their will. archie cant. he cant seem to find a system effective in the league. he doesnt even appear to try to bend. he just wants to play in the league wae his system, not want to adapt to what will be efficient and productive in the league. its not workin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggyMad Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 We have a squad that is good enough to stay in this league, but it is the managers responsibility to install confidence and stability into our team. Since January we have dropped doolan for Taylor, dropped SOD for McMillan, dropped lawless for Elliot. We also have not had a settled team for months. In my eyes he tinkers with the team far too much and has to take the blame for our dismal run of results. When Dools got dropped he was and still is our top scorer, yes he may have needed a rest, but not totally out the starting team. Since Taylor has come in, we have started the long ball punt up the park pish. Seemingly doing this in training as well. McMillan has been terrible the last 3-4 games and only the gaffer doesn't see this. Lawless was playing really well over the Xmas and new year period and even got man of the match and only played 60 min. He is our 2nd top scorer, but still canny get a place ahead of a headless chicken. Elliot and Craigen would struggle to get into a top championship side, but they still get game time for us. So YES it is Alan Archiebalds responsibility to motivate, encourage confidence and stability, but he has failed in this roll miserably. If he sticks to the team selections of lately then he will be sacked or in the championship with his decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Quinn Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 We have a squad that is good enough to stay in this league, but it is the managers responsibility to install confidence and stability into our team. Since January we have dropped doolan for Taylor, dropped SOD for McMillan, dropped lawless for Elliot. We also have not had a settled team for months. In my eyes he tinkers with the team far too much and has to take the blame for our dismal run of results. When Dools got dropped he was and still is our top scorer, yes he may have needed a rest, but not totally out the starting team. Since Taylor has come in, we have started the long ball punt up the park pish. Seemingly doing this in training as well. McMillan has been terrible the last 3-4 games and only the gaffer doesn't see this. Lawless was playing really well over the Xmas and new year period and even got man of the match and only played 60 min. He is our 2nd top scorer, but still canny get a place ahead of a headless chicken. Elliot and Craigen would struggle to get into a top championship side, but they still get game time for us. So YES it is Alan Archiebalds responsibility to motivate, encourage confidence and stability, but he has failed in this roll miserably. If he sticks to the team selections of lately then he will be sacked or in the championship with his decisions. pretty much amen sod should be in the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted February 16, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 JaggyMad, how do you know what's being done in training? The teamneeded to be tinkered with after some dreadful results, suspensions and then with the new January signings. I do think this will settle soon enough. The only thing likely to cause a change in the team is if Welsh gets fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 JaggyMad, how do you know what's being done in training? The teamneeded to be tinkered with after some dreadful results, suspensions and then with the new January signings. I do think this will settle soon enough. The only thing likely to cause a change in the team is if Welsh gets fit. So, expect no change then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted February 16, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 "Don't tinker" "Make changes". Archie's going to have a problem satisfying you both at the same time isn't he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggyMad Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) JaggyMad, how do you know what's being done in training? The teamneeded to be tinkered with after some dreadful results, suspensions and then with the new January signings. I do think this will settle soon enough. The only thing likely to cause a change in the team is if Welsh gets fit. Not that is any of ur business, but everyday in training there are over 30 players training every day, this includes some under 20's. Well all they players have friends and actually some of those friends are thistle fans. We all communicate with each other when we go to games and talk about things like this. The long ball has been introduced since Taylor came into the squad. This is not Taylor's fault, but it doesn't work. Also do you honestly believe that the players have just decided to do this off their own backs. They are being coached to do this. Edited February 16, 2014 by JaggyMad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted February 16, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Yep, definitely mad! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggyMad Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Yep, definitely mad! Thanks very much, that at least is 1 of the nicer names I get called, cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Quinn Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Not that is any of ur business, but everyday in training there are over 30 players training every day, this includes some under 20's. Well all they players have friends and actually some of those friends are thistle fans. We all communicate with each other when we go to games and talk about things like this. The long ball has been introduced since Taylor came into the squad. This is not Taylor's fault, but it doesn't work. Also do you honestly believe that the players have just decided to do this off their own backs. They are being coached to do this. anyone got a cunniepad? Edited February 16, 2014 by The Mighty Quinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Which game? He only played like 4 times. Your avatar is an utter disgrace. How about some respect for a guy who gave us 2 promotions as a player and one as a manager. To compare him to Campbell is nothing short of contempt for a jags legend. You need to take a long hard look at yourself. We really don't need clowns like you when we're in a relegation battle. Edited February 17, 2014 by ian_mac 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westend Jag Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Your avatar is an utter disgrace. How about some respect for a guy who gave us 2 promotions as a player and one as a manager. To compare him to Campbell is nothing short of contempt for a jags legend. You need to take a long hard look at yourself. We really don't need clowns like you when we're in a relegation battle. Never even noticed that until u highlighted....oh dear!! Words fail me on that comparison!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Why are folk feeding the troll? Just ignore him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Your avatar is an utter disgrace. How about some respect for a guy who gave us 2 promotions as a player and one as a manager. To compare him to Campbell is nothing short of contempt for a jags legend. You need to take a long hard look at yourself. We really don't need clowns like you when we're in a relegation battle. Afraid respect doesn't come into it for these "must have instant success" closets. The guy has been in the job 13 months, gave us an unbelievable, undefeated end to the season last season along with the championship trophy. Probably the worst thing that happened was our reasonably good start to the season, where some of these half wits started spouting about top 6 finishes and unbelievably, European football. Archie has made mistakes but as far as I am concerned his job this season is to keep us in the league. I have no reason to believe that won't be the case come the end of the season even if its via the play offs and if we do go down, yes, his job has to be looked at seriously! Edited February 17, 2014 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunnylaw Jag Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Why are folk feeding the troll? Just ignore him. Which one, there's several out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudjag Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Afraid respect doesn't come into it for these "must have instant success" closets. The guy has been in the job 13 months, gave us an unbelievable, undefeated end to the season last season along with the championship trophy. Probably the worst thing that happened was our reasonably good start to the season, where some of these half wits started spouting about top 6 finishes and unbelievably, European football. Archie has made mistakes but as far as I am concerned his job this season is to keep us in the league. I have no reason to believe that won't be the case come the end of the season even if its via the play offs and if we do go down, yes, his job has to be looked at seriously! Defo don't want to have a go Lindau just your comments made me think. You say if we go down Archie's job has to be looked at. What are your thoughts on the point that it would be too little too late to review his position after the horse as bolted so to speak. Many have made the point that going down this year really would be a death wish, not in terms of the long term future of the club but with regards to any aspirations we have of becoming and established top flight club. I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Your avatar is an utter disgrace. How about some respect for a guy who gave us 2 promotions as a player and one as a manager. To compare him to Campbell is nothing short of contempt for a jags legend. You need to take a long hard look at yourself. We really don't need clowns like you when we're in a relegation battle. His record is similar to Campbell. The picture is valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Defo don't want to have a go Lindau just your comments made me think. You say if we go down Archie's job has to be looked at. What are your thoughts on the point that it would be too little too late to review his position after the horse as bolted so to speak. Many have made the point that going down this year really would be a death wish, not in terms of the long term future of the club but with regards to any aspirations we have of becoming and established top flight club. I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts. It's all about opinions PJ. Mines is the guy deserves to the end of the season at least, what he achieved with the team last season, merits that in my opinion. This season is a whole new ball game in that it doesn't matter if we are isolated by say 10 points in 11th place after 38 games, as we have a great chance to rectify the situation via the play offs final, which in my opinion is loaded towards the team finishing 11th in our league. As I have said from day 1, if we survive, even via the play offs, it's been a successful season. If we go down, yeah, Archie's position needs to be looked at. People calling for his head before the end of 2013 is just ludicrous. At the moment we are within 4 points of three other clubs, yet certain people think we are doomed and the manager must be canned. Gross over-reaction in my opinion. Fair play to you to come on with a sensible, balanced question, unlike some I could mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 His record is similar to Campbell. The picture is valid. Campbell had us playing the worst football I have ever seen, and that includes the DJ and Benny Rooney days Archie is getting us playing football Campbell assembled a team with no re-sale value and next to no skill Archie has a young team who could make the club some money and try to play a bit Campbell won promotion to the 1st by coming 4th and having a shot deflected in to keep us in for penalties Archie won promotion to the Premier by going undefeated for possibly one of the longest periods in the clubs history There is no comparison between the two managers (and I use that term loosely for the miners son) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 His record is similar to Campbell. The picture is valid. Even Voltaire's dictum would be severely tested here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter of '63 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Even Voltaire's dictum would be severely tested here. On too many occasions recently when reading this forum, I have been reminded of Mark Twain's sage advice: " Never argue with stupid people, they will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 His record is similar to Campbell. The picture is valid. Sorry, I must have been asleep when DC led us in to the top tier of Scottish football. Yer another shitebag hiding behind his keyboard and an anonymous username. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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