Gingerjag Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Conrad has been fine when paired with Dan, it's when he is paired with Aero that the problems begin! aye hes better with dan but bad mistakes vs st mirren and killie has me doubting he's good enough at this level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruchillnomore Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Balatoni is a bombscare and without doubt costs goals anyone that resembles a centre half and can read a game would be nice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted October 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 When you see how much a proper CB like Seabourne dominates the defence you realise how poor Balatoni actually is. Also the fact that Balatoni was better than Gabriel shows that Archie was right to punt him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMac Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Good move by Archie to bring in another centre half. Good luck to you Freddy Frans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted October 17, 2014 Members Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Nice wee interview with him on the OS for TAG subscribers. He says he's playing for a contract extension with a view to moving to a bigger Club at a later date. I can see us offer him an 18 month extension if all goes well over the next few weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
read'n'yell Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/partick-thistle/frederic-frans-lierse-was-mad-leeds-was-crazy-but-firhill-is-so-184956n.25620231 Was supposed to be signing for Leeds - mid championship team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Doesnt appear to be a link to this story in todays Sunday Mail, but big Freddie is making it clear that if he has his way, he wont be here after January. Article reads Cocky Belgian defender Frederic Frans claims Partick Thistle are just a stepping stone on to bigger and better things The 25 year old penned a 3 month contract until January after being freed by Lierse. The former U/20 Belgian international claims Alan Archibald offered him a longer contract, but he has no interest in sticking around. Frans said "I was surprised that no other club in Belgium wanted me. As a result I began looking at foreign clubs and Partick Thistle came in for me. I asked them myself for a contract that just ran to January. That way I will get the chance to put myself in the shop window and to see what else there is for me" Frans had been with the Jupiter League outfit since the age of 6 turning out over 100 times. Now I think most of us realised that this was the case the minute he only signed for three months, but not exactly the way to get fans on your side especially if for example he causes a goal or two next week in what is a very important game. Perhaps would have been better if he had kept his mouth shut and let his football do the talking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 The only thing is,if he's desparate to move on he will play out of his skin. Chances are that barring injury ans suspension(a la Seabourne) he wouldn't have got a start. But I agree, not thevwaybto ingratiate yourself with the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Nothing wrong with being confident in your ability, but probably better showing it on the pitch, then doing your talking. I think the very fact that another Belgian team didn't make him an offer has annoyed him. He certainly doesnt seems to lack confidence, but knowing our fans and after his statement today, if he doesnt hit the ground running, his 3 months at Firhill might feel like 3 years!! Edited October 19, 2014 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andynptfc Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Really wanted frans first game to partnering seabourne in defence and not balatoni. Doesnt matter how good a player you are, your first game for a new club, especially at CB, is going to be difficult and have seabourne there would be a huge help with his organisation skills. Balatoni needs to concentrate so hard on his own game, I think it may be hard to form a partnership with someone new. Like someone else has said, these comments dont really help his case if he were to get off to a bad start, which hopefully wont be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 If he is all that he is cracked up to be, albeit perhaps only in his own mind, then the next 4 games - St Johnstone at home, C'tic away, Hamilton away and St Mirren away - will be an ideal opportunity for him to over-shadow everyone in red/yellow and prove that he is indeed a class above this level. These 4 games are self-evidently challenging but also present an opportunity to perhaps kick-on. At the moment perhaps what is expected, without the benefit of any concrete evidence, is that he is better then Balatoni and (possibly) at least on a par with, or noticeably better than, Seabourne - we shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted October 19, 2014 Members Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 That's not how he came across when interviewed on the official site. I think I'd rather trust what he says when interviewed personally 'live' than what a journo from the Sunday Mail says. The journo has probably seen the interview and put his slant on it. It wouldn't be the first time something has been taken and embellished out of context by this publication would it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
read'n'yell Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Have to agree with Willjag. It seems Frans is happy here and wants a contract in January but clearly in 1,2 years time, whatever, he is thinking about a bigger move. In theory making us a stepping stone - which is what I hope all our players consider us. If we have anyone who doesn't want to play at a higher level, then I'd be worried. If he wants a big move he will have to be sensational for us so either way, I'm happy. EDIT: will Seaborne be available for the Celtic game? and will Frans be qualified to play I assume? Could be their first game together. Edited October 19, 2014 by read'n'yell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted October 19, 2014 Members Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I think I'm right in saying Jackie McNamarra introduced this as a way of getting better standard players to sign for us. Come and play regularly with a good football playing side like Partick Thistle and get yourself noticed by a bigger Club. If we can get one or two years of guys like Higgy playing for us before moving onto bigger things like ATS, Erskine and Paton, then great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Nothing wrong with being confident in your ability, but probably better showing it on the pitch, then doing your talking. I think the very fact that another Belgian team didn't make him an offer has annoyed him. He certainly doesnt seems to lack confidence, but knowing our fans and after his statement today, if he doesnt hit the ground running, his 3 months at Firhill might feel like 3 years!! I wouldn't read too much into this. The Belgians are like the Dutch - they speak their mind openly. See Ronald de Boer this week re Guus Hiddink for a prime example. In our society, you've got to walk the talk. So Fred has the chance he wanted next weekend due to Airborne's red card yesterday. Over to you Fred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Agree with what most are saying but if it's true that he insisted on a 3 month contract think it's pretty clear that he wants to impress and move on in January. If that materialises hopefully BRE will be ready to step in. Edited October 19, 2014 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 For what it's worth i thought Conrad had a good game on Saturday, and the steadying influence of Big Dan will only improve him If Fredric struts about the pitch thinking he's destined for better things then i for one won't want him Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) Mair, Erskine, Bauben, Taylor all came in on short term deals and provided significant contributions to the cause last year. All we know for certain is we have this guy for about 10 games and therefore he could make a major difference to the season. Decent experience at club and national levels, and must be reasonably well known in his home land. At 25 you can't blame him for trying to maximise his income. He's been a one club player so fair play to him for trying something different. If his intentions are self promotion and using the jags as a shop window, it might be worthwhile pointing out to him that there was allegedly 20 scouts from English clubs in attendence at the Hamilton v Aberdeen match last week and putting the effort in for us might very well provide him the opportunities he seeks. Edited October 21, 2014 by ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 The big guy is totally unsuited for Scottish football.....spent the whole game passing the ball on the ground, on the ground mind you , for 10-15 yards to a team mate, refused to play long passes and not once did he lump an aimless long punt up the park....hopefully the management team get him sorted out pronto.....clearly needs to watch Muirhead in training Seabourne and Frans anyone? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Frans strolled the game. A Seabourne Frans partnership should be a very good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted October 25, 2014 Members Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Thought Conrad had a very good game today as well. Graham seemed to push onto him in the second half and Conrad handled him just as well Frans did in the first half. Great that we now have genuine competition for places in central defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 The big fella had an excellent game, commanding, calm and composed. Sadly I think that will probably mean he is offski in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 He didn't score, so he is clearly not good enough. A waste of a wage. Archie must go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 He didn't score, so he is clearly not good enough. A waste of a wage. Archie must go. Indubitably! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 With the papers talking about Van Dijk of Celtic joining Arsenal in January, what's the chances of that lot snapping big Freddie up if he has a belter on Wednesday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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