read'n'yell Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Harkins, Paton, Erskine, Tuffey, Cairney, Twaddle who all got bigger moves after us (for better or worse) plus the likes of Bannigan, Doolan, Fox, Balatoni (loan) were all integral players for us getting promoted. He also re-signed our current manager Alan Archibald and our previous manager, who went on to a bigger club. I think he'll do a good job at what could be a decent championship club. I always like having a few second teams to keep an eye on and Ayr were already one due to Mark Roberts but will probably upt my interest a little now. The lack of Scottish managers in England has narrowed my choices down South. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 ^ Excellent points and we should not forget that McCall negotiated excellent deals, worth over £200k, for Harkins and Twaddle. He, with the aid of Bobby Dinnie's scouting, laid the foundations for McNamara and Archibald. There are a few Scot managing English clubs - e.g. Paul Lambert, Steve Clarke and Malky Mackay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Harkins, Paton, Erskine, Tuffey, Cairney, Twaddle who all got bigger moves after us (for better or worse) plus the likes of Bannigan, Doolan, Fox, Balatoni (loan) were all integral players for us getting promoted. He also re-signed our current manager Alan Archibald and our previous manager, who went on to a bigger club. On the topic of Paul Cairney: I wasn't even aware that he signed for Killie last summer. Has he played for them yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
read'n'yell Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I was speaking about Cairney last week - I think he could do a job for us. He played week in week out for Hibs when they were second in the league a couple seasons ago. Had a bad game v Falkirk (maybe Raith) in the cup and got hooked at half time. Seemed to take the blame for the loss and didn't feature much after that - Hibs then fell down the table quite drastically. He signed for Killie but just hasn't been featuring at all except odd bench game - not really had a chance. Signed a two year deal with Killie in the summer there so probably won't be released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 ^ Excellent points and we should not forget that McCall negotiated excellent deals, worth over £200k, for Harkins and Twaddle. He, with the aid of Bobby Dinnie's scouting, laid the foundations for McNamara and Archibald. There are a few Scot managing English clubs - e.g. Paul Lambert, Steve Clarke and Malky Mackay. Whatever happend to The Twad-Father ? I thought he was one who could have made it, but seemed to vanish after a couple of years at Falkirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 On the topic of Paul Cairney: I wasn't even aware that he signed for Killie last summer. Has he played for them yet? i was going to say no, too busy eating all the pies, but upon checking, turns out grand total of four sub appearances. 13 minutes 13 aug v aberdeen 3 minutes 23 aug v motherwell 17 minutes 22 nov v dundee utd 12 minutes 20 dec v motherwell last two, booked in. with exception of well appearance, where they were already 2-0 up, the other three games were all defeats and he didn't make any positive contribution or change. eta ..... see rny beat me to it on his appearances, but disagree he would be worth signing. we have better, and can get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Whatever happend to The Twad-Father ? I thought he was one who could have made it, but seemed to vanish after a couple of years at Falkirk. after falkirk ..... 2011/12 rochdale ..... 2 appearances 2012/13 ayr utd ..... 17 appearances, 1 goal 2013/14 and 2014/15 been with irvine meadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I was speaking about Cairney last week - I think he could do a job for us. He played week in week out for Hibs when they were second in the league a couple seasons ago. Had a bad game v Falkirk (maybe Raith) in the cup and got hooked at half time. Seemed to take the blame for the loss and didn't feature much after that - Hibs then fell down the table quite drastically. He signed for Killie but just hasn't been featuring at all except odd bench game - not really had a chance. Signed a two year deal with Killie in the summer there so probably won't be released. The game you are referring to was the cup semi v Falkirk. PC got hooked at 0-3 and the final score was Hibs 4-3 aet. Lyle Taylor missed a couple of one-on-ones for Falkirk that day too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
read'n'yell Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 The game you are referring to was the cup semi v Falkirk. PC got hooked at 0-3 and the final score was Hibs 4-3 aet. Lyle Taylor missed a couple of one-on-ones for Falkirk that day too. Probably explains why they didn't let him back in the team - he did have a shocker. Completely forgot/ didn't remember Hibs ended up winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I've always thought Cairney has fitness issues. Not of his own making I add. When he's 100% he's an effective player but he's not at 100% too often. Spells out a team might mean he needs longer to get match fit than most. Could be he's an SPFL player in a championship body. He's certainly an intelligent type of player and I'd like to see him do well apart from against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 after falkirk ..... 2011/12 rochdale ..... 2 appearances 2012/13 ayr utd ..... 17 appearances, 1 goal 2013/14 and 2014/15 been with irvine meadow What a waste of a talent. I wonder what went wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 John Lambie Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 What a waste of a talent. I wonder what went wrong Like many, he chased the cash/top flight dream ahead of staying for perhaps 1 more year at the level he was at. He would have been a key player for us, & would probably still be had he stayed with us & helped us get promoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Scimmia Rossa Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 The McCall thing could be good for Thistle too. Good place to stick out a few of the U20s, got a friendly manager scouting the lower leagues for us too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veejag Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Very quickly made John Henry his assistant. This is amazing news for Ayr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediocre Pundit Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 That is great news indeed - surprised Henry has been out of work so long (assume not worked since Bolton?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruchillnomore Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Twaddle is now one of Police Scotland's finest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veejag Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Henry was a youth coach at Wigan most recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 All looking very good for Ayr. Think it's a good fit for McCall as well. They came mighty close to being an SPL club round about 2000 and reached a fair number of cup semi finals during that time as well. The potential is definitely there in terms of fanbase and I wonder if there are ambitions to return to full time football in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMac Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I always thought Ian McCall would go on to great things in management, first noticed him when he was in charge at Clydebank, where he did a remarkable job. Think we have benefited as a club having three good managers in a row. I was sad to see McCall leave us, but happy too see him back in the game, Ayr Utd are very fortunate to have him as their manager. All the best to you Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billko Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 All looking very good for Ayr. Think it's a good fit for McCall as well. They came mighty close to being an SPL club round about 2000 and reached a fair number of cup semi finals during that time as well. The potential is definitely there in terms of fanbase and I wonder if there are ambitions to return to full time football in the near future. They also have a decent youth set up and it's a great appointment by Ayr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
read'n'yell Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Notice Ayr have or are close to being this 4 star academy- the same as we just got. So may be good to get some formal links set up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graemei Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Twaddle is now one of Police Scotland's finest I think he still plays... For Irvine Meadow I think. Agree with comments about McCall's signings, he signed some great players for us. Definitely one of his strong points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Hope it's not too early to ask for a trip to Ayr for a pre-season friendly in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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