Dug1e Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 just heard on radio scotland that proposals for league reconstruction will be put forward to start in 2015/16 season. 2 new teams will join to give three leagues. top tier will have 16 teams and the bottom 18. if it goes ahead who would you like to see joining the senior set up? personally I feel there are too many teams as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G SUS Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Won't happen. Absolutely ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) just heard on radio scotland that proposals for league reconstruction will be put forward to start in 2015/16 season. 2 new teams will join to give three leagues. top tier will have 16 teams and the bottom 18. if it goes ahead who would you like to see joining the senior set up? personally I feel there are too many teams as it is. One good thing if its passed is that there will be no quick tracking of Sevco 5088 back into the big time!! 10 point gap between the top, Hibs and the 10th, Hearts, shows that the league is thriving without Sevco Edited November 12, 2012 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) It's even worse BBC story - http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/20302632 "Colt sides from Celtic and Rangers playing in senior football forms part of a proposal to reorganise the Scottish game from season 2015-16. The plan from the Scottish Football League, to be discussed by its clubs on Wednesday, would result in the end of the Scottish Premier League. Instead, the present four tiers would be reorganised into three leagues of 16, 10 and 18 teams. Celtic and Rangers would provide the two extra teams." Ludicrous proposal! Why not have 3 Leagues of 14? Edit to add - Rangers would have 2 teams in the 3rd tier if this proposal was implemented next season!! Edited November 12, 2012 by kni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottymagoo Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Article here..... http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/20302632 A bit confused as to why you'd have two relatively big leagues with teams playing each other twice a season with a 10 team league in the middle presumably sticking to the current 4 times a season format? Edited November 12, 2012 by scottymagoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 One good thing if its passed is that there will be no quick tracking of Sevco 5088 back into the big time!! 10 point gap between the top, Hibs and the 10th, Hearts, shows that the league is thriving without Sevco Don't bet on it - read the BBC story that I linked to above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) I'd go along with that, with 2-up, 2-down each time. As for entry to the lower tier, I've no real feelings about it. Edited to add: Except that no way should it be two of the other teams' reserve teams!! No more special treatment for two clubs in Scotland! Edited November 12, 2012 by Jaggernaut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Feckin joke!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
read'n'yell Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 The Colts idea would be a disaster. Too many players already get snapped up by the old firm into a football oblivion. Imagine they needed players for a colts? Their targets would be our level of players with the promise if they perform to be promoted to the first team. Awful idea. Also assuming they wouldnt be allowed into the top tier then theres a chance both could end up first and second in tier 2 every year with 3rd and 4th being promoted, if 9th and 10th get relegated then that league is a complete mockery. Also three tiers all different sizes? Ridiculous idea. A 10 team 2nd division is pointless.What a god awful league that would be. Only good thing is a 16 top tier. Why cant the other two leagues then be the same size (14 ?). Not keen. Although I would go with it except the colt idea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Note that there is no mention of a pyramid structure below the SFL. The colts proposal would, presumably, mean more SFL/TV money going to the OF. Edit to add - if this plan is to be discussed on Wednesday, should we contact the club to voice our opposition? Edited November 12, 2012 by kni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Note that there is no mention of a pyramid structure below the SFL. The colts proposal would, presumably, mean more SFL/TV money going to the OF. Edit to add - if this plan is to be discussed on Wednesday, should we contact the club to voice our opposition? You'd think that after the shennanigans of last summer that the SFA/SFL/SPL would realize that they really have to consult with fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) You'd think that after the shennanigans of last summer that the SFA/SFL/SPL would realize that they really have to consult with fans. I expect that there will be a consultation period. The boards of the clubs will need to have time to study any proposal in detail. In theory, the proposal would not accelerate the return of Rangers to the top league. Green is the first person to talk publicly about it so... Edited November 12, 2012 by kni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Wot in the name of **** is that kind of setup ? 16-10-18 ??? Thats utter lunacy. 3 x 14 and leave the teams as they are at the moment. is the best solution IMO. Will still result in some sort of split during the season but having a 10 team league in the middle is just bonker. If they are insisting on 10 then make it the bottom league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dug1e Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 never realised it was the ugly sisters that would make up the two new teams. never will happen. I assume all other spl teams will be asking why not our team? think something has to happen as the top flight of football in scotland is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Imagine the two teams of colts being at the top of the 2nd tier. "They wouldn't be promoted" would be the suggestion, but then why should the teams who might finish 3rd or 4th try a leg against those two, why should they risk their players getting injured in matches against them? Madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 At least the proposed re-organisation answers one question that festers at the top of Scottish football: Bigotry Sells - Bigotry Sells big time and I'm sure if they had their way they would get the under 16s, under 14s, under 12s, and women's teams from the bigoted twosome to play along, even in the same league - they could even have matches played in other countries to stoke up a bit of ex-pat bigotry or play some games in Derry/Londonderry, Belfast, Portadown, Dublin, Cork - the possibilities for such a "product" are endless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantB Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Stick your Sevco reserves where the sun dont shine. Dont they have enough problems getting enough players for their first team never mind their reserves? In the interests of balance, the mhanky mhob can beat it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottymagoo Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) It'll be sold on the basis that it will increase lower league attendances but no one really wants this outside of the OF. How long before these f*cknuts realise that some things are more important than money as was proven twice in the summer when they tried to shoehorn Sevco back in where they didn't belong. I know they have colt teams in Spain but if we're aiming to reduce the problem of two teams winning everything then that's hardly a good example to emulate. The Highland teams have proven to be pretty successful additions to the structure so no need to change the current applications systemif we need some new blood. Edited November 12, 2012 by scottymagoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Nearly every club in Spain is in debt and about 8 are effectively in administration. There are enough/too many senior clubs in Scotland as it is. No need to shoehorn in the dead beats stiffs, imo. 16 team top and second division. Pyramid and regional league below. One organisation. The SPL is finished as far as I'm concerned. Damn did I actually agree with Chuck Green on a point there It is only a proposal at the moment, but it has more bad than good points at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G SUS Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 We want a "B" team We want a "B" team We're Partick Thistle We want a "B" team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Imagine the two teams of colts being at the top of the 2nd tier. "They wouldn't be promoted" would be the suggestion, but then why should the teams who might finish 3rd or 4th try a leg against those two, why should they risk their players getting injured in matches against them? Madness. The teams in 3rd and 4th would try against the OF "colts" to get the points if the teams in 5th and 6th were challenging them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Never gonna happen! SPL clubs won't vote for it & would be very surprised if existing SFL clubs are interested in it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee jim Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Some of you guys are very knowledable on European football. I suppose I could check this out myself. Is this apparently crazy looking set up, or similar, of 16 – 10 – 18, used anywhere else. Or is it just another ill thought out SFA proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberteeb Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 The only bit they have got right is the 16 team top league. Make the 2 league below it the same size with 2 up and 2 down (maybe a play off for added excitement). Get the colt team idea to ****, it does not benefit anyone apart from the old firm. Young talent should be playing first team football, if the old firm colt teams had all the good talent they will be stuck playing against hammer throwers in the bottom league, that doesn't do the players any favours, doesn't do the clubs who they would otherwise be playing for any favours and doesn't do the national team any favours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 The only bit they have got right is the 16 team top league. Make the 2 league below it the same size with 2 up and 2 down (maybe a play off for added excitement). Get the colt team idea to ****, it does not benefit anyone apart from the old firm. Young talent should be playing first team football, if the old firm colt teams had all the good talent they will be stuck playing against hammer throwers in the bottom league, that doesn't do the players any favours, doesn't do the clubs who they would otherwise be playing for any favours and doesn't do the national team any favours. It would also probably further reduce what's left of away supports of the ugly sisters, as their siege mentality would probably see them preferring to wallow in the atmosphere of their own bigotdoms every second Saturday to watch their wee team and keeping their money in their own clubs' pockets, than to go and watch their big team away from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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