young_brodie Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Firsty, it's fantastic to even be in the position of contemplating promotion into the SPL. On the surface, this might sound like a daft question but there are obviously considerable ramifications (good and bad) How well would Thistle cope administratively? What about the contention of the squad itself? It's also been suggested here that failure to enter the SPL could be a major setback in terms of results... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 It won't be the end of the world if we don't win the league, but it would be disappointing to have lost it through largely indifferent away form throughout the season. A Ramsden's success would be a little sweetener, but in some ways winning that would make missing out on promotion even more difficult to take! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I want to win the league as the players deserve it. But SPL fitba is a shite standard and the games are a grind. This Dundee Utd Hibs game is an eyesore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted February 24, 2013 Members Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 It's also been suggested here that failure to enter the SPL could be a major setback in terms of results... Has it??? Must have missed it! It would be a major achievement for such a young side to win this Championship especially with the experience that Morton have in their squad. I think it was fairly well documented that we weren't reaally expecting to be in the position we find ourselves in this season. Having seen all 3 games against Morton, I'd also say that other than for a spell when they equalised then Forbes got sent off in the Boxing day game and for the last 40 minutes last week, we were by far the better footballing side of the two teams and able to show much more promise. No matter if we win this thing this season or not, I hope we can hang on to all the players under 25 as they are by far the best young Thistle side since the '71 Cup winning team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peagreenboy Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Unfortunately, winning the Scottish First Division means entrance into the worst league in Britain ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggyman Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Want to win the 1st division be a great achievment for a young team. Promotion to the joke that is the self preservation league i really couldnt care although it will be kind nice to play some different teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornwoodjag Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I just want to shut the Morton fans up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 John Lambie Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Vital, if we've any chance of keeping Erskine, O'Donnell, Doolan, Paton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 The OP has a total of 4 posts. Are we being trolled by a numpty who supports one of the Ugly Sisters or another team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 We've been in this league for such a long time. Since arriving: Gretna, St Johnstone and Dundee have gone up Hamilton have gone up and down Dunfermline have come down and up and down again ICT have come down and up Livingston have been doubled-down and double-up Ross County have been down, back up and up again Airdrie have gone down up, down up Ayr have come up and down and up and down Stirling have gone down, up and double down Falkirk have come down Raith Rovers have come up Queen of the South have gone down Clyde have gone down and down The only team to have been around anywhere near as long as us uninterrupted is... yep. Morton, who followed us up a season later. Both teams have spent an age in purgatory, us marginally longer. For what is one of the most competitive Divisions in Europe we have largely muddled along for seven seasons now. As someone who's only followed Thistle properly for about 8 or 9 seasons, and been in regular attendance for about five of six seasons, I would absolutely LOVE IT if we win promotion. I've seen teams which frankly have looked absolutely rank in this league at some time or another become solid fixtures in the SPL. A lot of fans from our and other clubs say they like the idea of winning the SFL title but not promotion itself (almost always in a slightly hollow way). I can honestly say that attitude for Thistle fans should be absolute nonsense. This Club has a great chance to really push on and cement its place in the top flight if it can just get over the line this time around. St Mirren, Ross County, St Johnstone, Dundee, these sides shouldn't be streets ahead of us. If we grasp the chance we can do what they've done. If we get up and drop straight back down, so be it. I'd take that chance over another two seasons sitting mid-table with only a glimmer of a cup run for variety. We have a young, talented squad. I suspect Morton will tip us, with the experienced pros in their number who have been winning this league for various teams almost every season since we last went up ourselves. But let's be clear about something here: we have the next generation of those winners among our rank. If we don't win this title, many of them will simply be lost to decent SPL teams. If we do win it, they're going to go on to become greats. R&YA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I am not sure, even if we do win it, that the likes of Erskine,Bannigan,SOD,Doolan wil stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young_brodie Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 If we don't win this title, many of them will simply be lost to decent SPL teams. This was the main concern in my OP which could potentially impact negatively on ability depending on who/how many. http://www.wearethistle.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/7104-whos-out-of-contract-in-the-summer-signing-for-dundee-united/page__p__116700__hl__+contract%20+players__fromsearch__1#entry116700 We'll have believers turning out in droves for the remainder of the season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky jag Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I would be delighted to see thistle win the league, if we don't, I think this team will be stripped for parts. Yeh the spl is this and that, boring bla bla bla, it's still the "elite" league in this country, and I'd rather be away to hibs during the week than cowdenbeath no disrespect to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I am not sure, even if we do win it, that the likes of Erskine,Bannigan,SOD,Doolan wil stay Bannigan is under contract for next season. If we win promotion, there will be competition to sign our best players who are out of contract in May. Even if they leave (e.g. to Tannadice), we could find suitable replacements as good as, or even better than, them. Lawless, Muirhead and Welsh (but also Murray Craigen and McGuigan) are under contract for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 John Lambie Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I am not sure, even if we do win it, that the likes of Erskine,Bannigan,SOD,Doolan wil stay Quite possibly, but no promotion and our chances of keeping them (especially the ones out of contract) are virtually nil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmak Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 i would love to win the league,as it goes down in history, but we would probably find it tough in the spl without erskine o.donnell brannigan who would probably be snapped up by utd or hibs.i know we would replace these guys but unfortunatly not with the same flare. theres always an arguement with being in the 1st div you see your team win more than you loose and being in the spl is a grind with the odd win to celebrate. i do honestly believe there will be change hopefully sooner rather than later and that it makes it would make it more exciting to be in the spl heres hoping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoncordiner Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I want to win the league, but the thought of playing the SPL dulls my senses. I'd like to see how this young team does in the SPL, and I'd hope that winning the league would mean most of the young guys stay. If we don't then Erskine, Paton, O'Donnell, and others may all leave. Would be nice for one of these guys to have a great season in the SPL and maybe net us a few bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Would love to win this league but... Closest comparison I can make to ourselves is Falkirk, Dunfermline & Hamilton who have all crashed & burned since dropping out of SPL. The ideal scenario would be to win the league, get reconstruction & better distribution of money within Scottish game therefore being able to keep SOD, Sinclair, Erskine. Unfortunately like WJ, I think whatever happens we'll lose these guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Thistle Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 As important as the most important thing! Apart from the sheer joy of winning it, Mind the fealing ye got at st midden? Well its been far too long waiting to get those emotions again. I'd rather be sh*te-ing myself in the SP-Hell Than the first divi!!!! Plus I've got a 40yr old malt needing cracked open!! 8-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 It's not just the players that we have, and questioning whether they could cope in the SPL. It's the office set up. We have a press officer and a general manager on the club payroll. We survive on the goodwill of directors and associate directors providing a wage from their own business's or personal income to a couple of others. And the many volunteers obviously. For a club to survive in the SPL, it's not just competing on the pitch, it's the work done off it that's so much greater! How many man hours are required to operate an SPL team? How many do we currently operate with? With regards to the OP? I would say its really important to me, I want to see us play in the top league, especially one that only has one half of that lot in it. Incidentally, could this be the worst season financially, to be promoted, as the prize money restructure won't come in to effect til next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 It would be worth it for the celebrations alone. But no, going in to the SPL doesn't excite me. Paying £20+ to sit in an empty ground watching complete dross shouldn't be anyone's idea of a good time. Also share the concerns about the administrative structure of the club and whether we could cope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 The SPL is a mess no matter what shape it takes,but iwould always want Thistle to play at the highest possible level.I fear what team we could end up with next season if we dont get promotion.I think we could lose all our best players and end up with a team that would struggle,We dont even know who the manager will be next season.I also feel if Morton win the league it will be a missed oportunity as i really didnt think that they would finish above us before the start of the season.Finaly once again we could finish second and once again we might as well have finished 6th again for all the good it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco77 Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 I do not understand all the negativity surrounding promotion. Better television coverage. More income. Attract better players. Keep existing squad members. And the most important factor being that we will be in Fifa14. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 It's not just the players that we have, and questioning whether they could cope in the SPL. It's the office set up. We have a press officer and a general manager on the club payroll. We survive on the goodwill of directors and associate directors providing a wage from their own business's or personal income to a couple of others. And the many volunteers obviously. For a club to survive in the SPL, it's not just competing on the pitch, it's the work done off it that's so much greater! How many man hours are required to operate an SPL team? How many do we currently operate with? With regards to the OP? I would say its really important to me, I want to see us play in the top league, especially one that only has one half of that lot in it. Incidentally, could this be the worst season financially, to be promoted, as the prize money restructure won't come in to effect til next season? Presumably those issues apply to every other club that gets promoted to the SPL; you need to up-size. We've done it before, so what's the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Hansen Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Presumably those issues apply to every other club that gets promoted to the SPL; you need to up-size. We've done it before, so what's the problem? We should alway want to win whatever competition we enter so no brainer for me I want to win this league and keep all our best players and this seems to me the only way to have a hope of doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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