uberteeb Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 The only reason he might not cut it would be if McNamara doesn't use him properly. There's no doubt he can play at this level, put it this way, despite being our best performer last season he would be the only one unable to make the step up (the rest of the team clearly have). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaphod Beeblebrox Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I sincerely hope that Kerr isn't far better than Paton, if he is we are in real trouble. Mark Kerr is absolute murder, as fans of all of his previous clubs will attest to. There is a reason he is almost unanimously despised by The Sheep, The Fun and ourselves. He is absolutely one of the most clueless panic merchants to ever pull on a jersey at Tannadice, cannot do the basics whatsoever. I was genuinely surprised when you took a punt on him this summer as he is dire in every sense of the word. From what I have seen of Kerr I would say he is better. Paton is a very limited footballer albeit he will give u 100%. In my opinion Paton was very overrated by some thistle fans and it showed when he was out injured we didn't miss him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Kerr is a decent player, good skill, can pass seems to be able to play in our system. Don't know what you mean by 'panic merchant' as he hasn't played in a crunch game for us - in fact has been a bench player in our two league games. There is something about him that niggles me and I don't know if there's anything really to back it up - I don't know what it is, maybe he does lack 'bottle' as you suggest. But it's daft to say he's rotten - he's a decent player, though I'd say when all players are fit he'll be second or third choice. Reckon he can probably do a good job for us as cover when a player's out for a few games due to injury/suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewarty Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 What is his best position though? Behind the striker? Left winger? Left-sided withdrawn inside forward. He has lacked consistency in the past, but not last season IMO. He's quite unconventional and can appear ungainly, which makes him an easy target for those looking for someone to shout at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUFCFAN Posted August 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Kerr is a decent player, good skill, can pass seems to be able to play in our system. Don't know what you mean by 'panic merchant' as he hasn't played in a crunch game for us - in fact has been a bench player in our two league games. There is something about him that niggles me and I don't know if there's anything really to back it up - I don't know what it is, maybe he does lack 'bottle' as you suggest. But it's daft to say he's rotten - he's a decent player, though I'd say when all players are fit he'll be second or third choice. Reckon he can probably do a good job for us as cover when a player's out for a few games due to injury/suspension. I'm not on the wind up here at all, but you're wrong, Mark Kerr is a pathetic excuse for a footballer. The fact that the fans of a very poor Dundee side say the same should be enough evidence of that. Give him 15-20 games and you'll see what I mean. I've never seen someone so incapable of the basics. Headless chicken is the phrase that comes to mind and not in a good sense. He will make stupid mistakes that'll cost you points this season, of that I have no doubt. "Bottler" would be a polite way of describing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Wragg Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Wow !! this post is going back and forth !! Ratmara has had a poor start while our Archie is just going from strength to strength, time will tell, but I honestly believe, contrary to my hasty and highly criticised ( overly) comments on our new boss's managerial talents, that the Jags will finish above DUFC and possibly in a Euro position, watch the speed of our guys in the Ross County game !! , and also the change of tactics that Archie has the acumen to instruct, wide one half , tight the second , no doubts now about Thistle . Erskine ? a great player with Jags when he turned it at times , not my favourite , but very talented in spurts, hope he comes back to us for free, make up for DUFC stealing him in the first place !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Erskine was outstanding last season.But he left us and now at DUFC.We have a number of players who have signed 2year contracts with us imo they deserve our support and not somebody who thought the grass was greener elsewhere.We have a number of players who cant get into the first 11,they deserve their chance more than Erskine.So imo even if we could get him on loan i would say no.Before anybody says i know it is all hypothetical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 A question for DUFCFAN: If you could swap, which of our players would you take, and who would you give us in return? For Jags fans: Who would you give to DU in exchange for whom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I have Chris Erskine up there with Chic Charnley, Nicky Walker and Davie Irons as my favourite ex-players. But they're not a patch on the current lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewarty Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 For Jags fans: Who would you give to DU in exchange for whom? I like the look of Stuart Armstrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUFCFAN Posted August 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) A question for DUFCFAN: If you could swap, which of our players would you take, and who would you give us in return? For Jags fans: Who would you give to DU in exchange for whom? I really couldn't say, I haven't seen enough of your players to really make an informed decision on this. Both your full backs looked good against us and we are light at centre half, so possibly Balatoni. In terms of players you could have from us, I'd maybe go with Michael Gardyne, he's a decent player who's never been given a chance in his proper position (Behind the striker). Houston played 442 and used Midge either up front or on the right hand side, he was pretty ineffective but has never had an extended run of games to show what he's worth. The formation Jackie plays now is possibly better suited to him but he appears to be so far down the pecking order that I can see him leaving before the end of the month. He'd certainly enhance most SPL teams as he definitely has the required quality but it just hasn't worked out for him at United. With the greatest respect to you, as long as we get our act together we will finish ahead of Partick and in the top 4 at least. Guys like GMS, Armstrong, Goodie, Gunning are still top drawer SPL players. I saw some were saying GMS is just a show pony, this isn't true whatsoever, GMS on his game is unplayable, the things he can do are ridiculous, he could easily play for any lower end (English) Premier League/ Upper Championship side, he is slightly more wary now due to some of the assaults that guys like Richie Foran put in on him on a regular basis, he is truely head and shoulders above 99% of this league on his game. Stuart Armstrong is sheer class and will excel at a higher level in a a year or two, he's a similar type of player to Steven Gerrard, obviously I'm not saying he's on his level but in terms of their style of play, he's had a drop in form recently but he just lost his Mum earlier this year, the maturity he's shown for a 21 year old is incredible (He put in a MOTM performance against Sevco the day after her funeral). Goodie will score plenty once he gets his first out of the way, he's a greedy barsteward and has been snatching at chances a bit but he'll get back to his usual self, soon enough. Edited August 12, 2013 by DUFCFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I like the look of Stuart Armstrong. Who would you swap him for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewarty Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Who would you swap him for? Assuming we're talking about players who regularly feature in the first 11, I'd exchange Forbes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
read'n'yell Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Armstrong is much in the same mould as Bannigan. I would take Goodwillie and would swap for anyone outwith Muirhead, Balatoni and Welsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 For Jags fans: Who would you give to DU in exchange for whom? Mark Kerr for Chris Erskine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishopbriggs jag Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I'm not on the wind up here at all, but you're wrong, Mark Kerr is a pathetic excuse for a footballer. The fact that the fans of a very poor Dundee side say the same should be enough evidence of that. Give him 15-20 games and you'll see what I mean. I've never seen someone so incapable of the basics. Headless chicken is the phrase that comes to mind and not in a good sense. He will make stupid mistakes that'll cost you points this season, of that I have no doubt. "Bottler" would be a polite way of describing him. Some footballers get better, some get worse mind you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishopbriggs jag Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) Mark Kerr for Chris Erskine I'd resign Stephanie bonnes then trade, since the transfer window is still open ETA ipad autocorrected to Stephanie but I'm happy just leaving it that way Edited August 12, 2013 by Bishopbriggs jag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 ... Goodie will score plenty once he gets his first out of the way, he's a greedy barsteward and has been snatching at chances a bit but he'll get back to his usual self, soon enough. Nobody likes a selfish striker when they are missing golden chances like the one at the weekend. He seems quite petulant when things don't go his way. His demeanour when you played us reminded me of the young Gasgoine. On the edge. I'm sure you're right, once he finds the target he'll get a few. Can I say that it is a pleasure to engage with you here. We had an erseho1e from Morton on last season but you have restored my faith in the ability of opposing fans to debate intelligently. However, you are wrong to believe that you will finish above Thistle this season. Oh, by the way, we don't like being called Partick, we are THE Thistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUFCFAN Posted August 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Nobody likes a selfish striker when they are missing golden chances like the one at the weekend. He seems quite petulant when things don't go his way. His demeanour when you played us reminded me of the young Gasgoine. On the edge. I'm sure you're right, once he finds the target he'll get a few. Can I say that it is a pleasure to engage with you here. We had an erseho1e from Morton on last season but you have restored my faith in the ability of opposing fans to debate intelligently. However, you are wrong to believe that you will finish above Thistle this season. Oh, by the way, we don't like being called Partick, we are THE Thistle. Haha, sorry, I'll refrain from using Partick from now on. As I say though our fans don't have a problem with you, Most would agree that we should have handled the McNamara situation better than we did, Stephen Thompson is cutting the cloth after years of overspending, so any loophole he could find in terms of compensation he was always gonna take, in general he has done well for our club (More than halving the debt in two years) and has carried on his Father's good work. I do understand your stance on Jackie as I've seen similar situations happen all too often at my club but he is our manager now so for that I have to back him. In terms of finishing above us, we'll have to agree to disagree on that one, although I do think you have a good season ahead of you, as you look like you play the "proper way" as Jackie puts it, unlike they hammer throwers you beat at the weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Haha, sorry, I'll refrain from using Partick from now on. As I say though our fans don't have a problem with you, Most would agree that we should have handled the McNamara situation better than we did, Stephen Thompson is cutting the cloth after years of overspending, so any loophole he could find in terms of compensation he was always gonna take, in general he has done well for our club (More than halving the debt in two years) and has carried on his Father's good work. I do understand your stance on Jackie as I've seen similar situations happen all too often at my club but he is our manager now so for that I have to back him. In terms of finishing above us, we'll have to agree to disagree on that one, although I do think you have a good season ahead of you, as you look like you play the "proper way" as Jackie puts it, unlike they hammer throwers you beat at the weekend. I worked for Morning . Noon and Night until Eddie Thompson sold it. Eddie was an absolute gentleman, BUT Stephen Thompson was an absolute CRETIN, and I believe he still is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I really couldn't say, I haven't seen enough of your players to really make an informed decision on this. Both your full backs looked good against us and we are light at centre half, so possibly Balatoni. In terms of players you could have from us, I'd maybe go with Michael Gardyne, he's a decent player who's never been given a chance in his proper position (Behind the striker). Houston played 442 and used Midge either up front or on the right hand side, he was pretty ineffective but has never had an extended run of games to show what he's worth. The formation Jackie plays now is possibly better suited to him but he appears to be so far down the pecking order that I can see him leaving before the end of the month. He'd certainly enhance most SPL teams as he definitely has the required quality but it just hasn't worked out for him at United. With the greatest respect to you, as long as we get our act together we will finish ahead of Partick and in the top 4 at least. Guys like GMS, Armstrong, Goodie, Gunning are still top drawer SPL players. I saw some were saying GMS is just a show pony, this isn't true whatsoever, GMS on his game is unplayable, the things he can do are ridiculous, he could easily play for any lower end (English) Premier League/ Upper Championship side, he is slightly more wary now due to some of the assaults that guys like Richie Foran put in on him on a regular basis, he is truely head and shoulders above 99% of this league on his game. Stuart Armstrong is sheer class and will excel at a higher level in a a year or two, he's a similar type of player to Steven Gerrard, obviously I'm not saying he's on his level but in terms of their style of play, he's had a drop in form recently but he just lost his Mum earlier this year, the maturity he's shown for a 21 year old is incredible (He put in a MOTM performance against Sevco the day after her funeral). Goodie will score plenty once he gets his first out of the way, he's a greedy barsteward and has been snatching at chances a bit but he'll get back to his usual self, soon enough. I think you and the rest of the united fans are in for a bit of a shock to be honest. It appears you are still under-estimating us and for me that's just fine. The less respect we get from other teams the more matches we will win. You have some great options going forward but Goodwillie missed a lot of chances at Firhill and the one he missed at the weekend was right out of the Van Vossen handbook. I saw one of the guys who got subbed at the weekend having a wee tantrum in the dugout as well. I think you are extremely dodgy at the back and it appears that Jackie has blown his budget on the forward line, so unless you can get some guys out the door to make way for a couple of centre halves I think you could struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 With the greatest respect to you, as long as we get our act together we will finish ahead of Partick and in the top 4 at least. Guys like GMS, Armstrong, Goodie, Gunning are still top drawer SPL players. Four players out of a full squad, eh? I can see you finishing second behind Celtic with such an incomprehensible pool of talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Earl of Hathaway Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 I like what you all have to say about Erskine, but he really needs to show some quality, quickly, our fans won't show him the patience... What is his best position though? Behind the striker? Left winger? Regarding Jackie, I'll give him his due in that he certainly hasn't shown much of an ego yet, he seem's fairly modest and humble in his interviews,.... Hi Jackie! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hi Jackie! Brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Quinn Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hi guys, DUFC fan in peace here, first of all well done on a terrific victory yesterday against the hammer throwers, I know there's a bit of bad blood between our clubs just now but I certainly wish you all the best this season. (Except against us) On topic though, can anyone delineate the bright side of Chris Erskine for me, I've seen him play 4 times for us so far and each time he's looked dreadful. I've seen milk turn quicker than him and it seems as if his second touch is always a tackle, I've yet to see him take the ball past a player and he really seem's to break up our attacks more than he adds to them. Hope he can prove me wrong but I've seen nothing from him yet to suggest he'll be a good signing for us. Although he was very poor yesterday, I think the fans that cheered his substitution were an absolute disgrace, really hope he prove me wrong and I know you guys rate him highly, just hope his confidence isn't shot to pieces by some of the idiots in our support. can we have him back then? certain players fit certain clubs n i reckon partick th n kikbirnie e his teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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